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Edgy MD wrote: No, I wouldn't be surprised at the paucity of beat reporters at a charity event. To the rest of your post, I am struggling to suss out what you're getting at. that there's a difference between value to consumer and value to producer. A lot of this stuff is simply generating traffic, but it's fluff content and empty calories creating a smokescreen. Execs are giving beat guys sound bytes so that they can write columns, and then they use those columns to generate questions to ask execs to generate more sound bytes to generate more columns. Why? Because they have to? This is the same thing sports radio does. And yes, we're consuming it so that seems to imply that it must have value to us, but I disagree. I think if you replaced it all with something better no one would miss it. Maybe they should actually send beat reporters to more of the charity events and minor appearances. Hell, Harvey's appearance at a Rangers game generated at least as much buzz and interest as an overly digested spun Wilpon quote.

Edgy MD wrote: I don't know, but if bloggers are re-posting it, it has value to somebody. And the bigger outlets are the only ones who can afford to keep a beat reporter or stringer showing up at stuff like a charity building rehab. The greater issue is the ethics of everybody copying and pasting copyrighted info all over the net. I wish I had an answer there. But clearly Rubin is a model of the good contemporary beat reporter, producing a clickable story about every. Little. Thing. well, it has value to bloggers in that it creates a thread on a site to keep Mets fans at to keep talking about the Mets, whether or not it's on topic. But really a "morning applesauce" thread has the same sort of effect. You'd be surprised at how few beat reporters are showing up at charity building rehab stuff or what not. Rubin's model is good for 'clickable' but maybe really what's needed in a reporter these days. Take the scorpion bite story that he blew out of proportion because it was something he could put on a page to get hits. The story persisted well past the original retraction and even past Rubin's (which I believe was in a different post, meaning you only saw it as a 'reader' of his site, not if you followed one of the original circulated links) correction because he decided to drum up something. That's fine from a let's create noise and Mets chatter standpoint, because Mets fans will yammer on about anything, which was why his "Mets passed on Ortiz" tweet/post continued to generate buzz despite being about as stupid a tweet as you can make.

Edgy MD wrote: But folks have to file stories. Part of the reason the medium is dying. What is the value to the consumer of big-wigs saying meaningless sound bytes and 17 different, more if you count the bloggers that then repost the same nothing, newspapers writing it up?

seawolf17 wrote: Actually, that "Facing" book would be hilarious if it was all soft rain on the outside like that, but inside was only interviews from guys like Matt Franco and Luis Gonzalez. I'm totally down to post fake blurbs like this in the coming weeks. "I stepped off to rattle Mo further, and when I stepped back in I was ready for what he had. I knew I just needed to put some muscle behind it and get it into outfield. I didn't try to do too much with the pitch, and it found grass. It was the greatest moment of my life." -Luis Gonzalez. I should probably pare that down to 140 for maximum effect. "After stepping off to rattle him, I beat Rivera on a game of strength, muscling the game-winner to the hole to the left of SS. Ballgame over. The Diaaaaaaaaaaaamondbacks win!"

Frayed Knot wrote: I don't understand how this "finalist" thing works. The GGs are an award voted on by managers and coaches. Did MLB narrow the roster of candidates first and only allow the Mgrs to vote on those, or were the votes already cast and counted and the only reason for this finalist list is to build anticipation by leaking the top finishers? It's kind of funny that with all the complaining about the job that the writers do with MVP, RoY, CY, etc., the one vote that's done essentially in house is the one that's a virtual certainty to be the worst of the lot. I think they're just "releasing" the top three names or something. slow reveal.

metirish wrote: Incredible, so vaseline is the brand name and not the actual product?, we should be calling it petroleum jelly? Learn something new everyday. Dumpster is a brand name as well.

pitch f/x shows no deviant movement on pitches however.

Frayed Knot wrote: Y'know what the best formula for building a championship is? ... Have all the shit you did go right for you at the same time and have as few injuries as possible. Once you master that "skill" you'll get more after-the-fact praise than you know what to do with and your "method" will be declared the new trend. If I was a winning manager/GM I'd so get crazy. "I owe much of our success to booze in the clubhouse to unwind after games" "We put in a lot of hard work but we owe our success to a good piece of toast every morning and our sponsorship by the Toast Marketing Board." "We hold group singalongs after losses, and the pitcher that took the L has the lead solo. Great clubhouse bonding that allowed us to capture the title." "We practice by running the bases backwards. Really keeps our reflexes sharp on the basepaths."

Apparently this wasn't true.

not to mention holding onto the ball despite the catch hurting so badly he bruised his ribs. Try walking with a glass of water and let me punch you unawares and let's see if you drop the glass.

seawolf17 wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I never followed that guy, but unfollowed plenty who spent as much time ragging on him as he did trolling. Me neither. I largely ignore most of #MetsTwitter because it's mostly trolling, it seems. I follow the writers and I follow all y'all, but not a whole lot more than that. I was thisclose to unfollowing Mets Police the other day, but there's good stuff in there sometimes. No one should've told Shannon how good being a crank on the internet is for page hits.

Edgy MD wrote: I don't see three years or front half as "bordering on longest," but Mike Scoscia has been with the Angels since the end of the last century. I was employing exaggeration. He's firmly in the middle exactly in the NL, though 3 of them have managed the same amount of regular season games and Mattingly took over with two weeks to go. and 7 AL managers, meaning he's 15 of 30.

Edgy MD wrote: Oh, and Terry Collins is now MLB's oldest manager. He's also bordering on one of the longest tenured at this point too isn't he? gotta be at least in the front half.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Well someone's going to have to succeed Jay; he's 68 or 69 years old and been doing the job for 30+ years. The other connection is both guys are from Clifton, NJ. Nice place. I used to shop there a lot when I worked in the next town over but never ran into Jay. Did look at 5-10 houses there though. I suspect Jay will leave the same way Ralph Kiner will.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Wonder if this guy is to be Horwitz' successor. They must be thinking of a transition at some point down the line. nah, completely unrelated. I suspect what he's going to be doing is a directing things like in-game tweet contests and that sorta thing. They started doing a lot of that but a lot of it has been run by interns of either the Mets or MLB headquarters and well, you know how interns fuck things up (#VoteMarkakis). The only Horwitz connection is that all the reporters love his tweets so he gets mentioned with this news. Funny that no one leaked this, since he tweeted he got the job three days ago.

Kong76 wrote: Picking the winner is kinda boring, even with the number of games. Something a little more challenging ... name the Series MVP. Winner will receive 5 nice Mike Piazza baseball cards. Same answer. Carlos Beltran.

METS HIRE WILL CARAFELLO AS DIRECTOR, SOCIAL MEDIA FLUSHING, N.Y., October 21, 2013 � The New York Mets today named Will Carafello to the newly created position of Director, Social Media. Carafello will be responsible for working collaboratively across the organization to oversee the Mets social media efforts. He will report to David Newman, Senior Vice President, Marketing & Communications. Prior to joining the Mets, Carafello was Director of Marketing for the New Jersey Devils. While there, Carafello was instrumental in the creation of �Mission Control,� the first digital command center within the sports and entertainment industry. He successfully guided the growth of the team�s social media engagement, an achievement realized via the Devils #1 Klout score in the NHL. Carafello has spent over a decade in the sports and entertainment industry in marketing roles across venues, arenas and professional sports teams. Carafello was an integral part of the pioneering team that opened the Prudential Center in 2007. He has also garnered experience from roles within the Meadowlands Sports Complex (Continental Airlines Arena and Giants Stadium), and Madison Square Garden. Carafello was previously the Marketing Director for the Harlem Globetrotters. Carafello is a graduate of Seton Hall University in South Orange, N.J. Carafello and his wife Kelly recently welcomed a newborn daughter, Annaclaire. The family, including dog Homer, resides in Clifton, N.J. # # #

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Eff Beltran too. You fanboys still harboring hope he comes back and wears a Mets cap on his plaque ae going to be very disappointed when he signs with the MFYs this offseason and wears *that* cap to Cooperstown. I know. But that's Beltran. I honestly doubt he signs with the Yankees, doesn't really seem to fit (well he fits everywhere really..). I think if he gets a ring though that might be enough to push some of the nay-sayers over the edge to 'yes' for the HoF. It really shouldn't matter, because there _should_ be Beltran days in the Mets future (he's on the same level as Piazza to me), but I feel like a ring helps that cause. Even if you think it's a slim chance, it's still a chance of future happiness out of the Cardinals winning, and I can't see any chance of that out of the Red Sox winning.

seawolf17 wrote: Ceetar wrote: Beltran in 4. This, and fuck everyone else on both teams. I'm intrigued by Matt Carpenter actually, I give a hardly "eh" to him and fuck the rest of 'em. Oh, and Jon Jay get's a pass for his resemblance to our first Chief Justice.

Beltran in 4.

Edgy MD wrote: Might have been my bad repost. Anyboo, failing to hit .200 in the GCL at 22, he was probably a solid candidate for a release under any circumstances. yes, but "routine minor league cuts" is a boring headline. This is the guy that decided to write about the Mets passing on David Ortiz 10 years ago this week.

Ashie62 wrote: Some time ago Fred Wilpon said that Baseball was basically a breakeven business for the family. I think what Fred meant was whatever happens with the Mets financially will not make us any richer or poorer. a novelty if you will... I remember hearing this. Had something to do with setting the budget to roughly the revenue. When ends up making the win/lose of it all based on how the Mets actually do. (i.e., they'd set the payroll up to the 85-90 million they expect to make this year or whatever) Of course, it's whether or not that's changed that's the issue at hand I guess.

Frayed Knot wrote: Kong76 wrote: I'd like to see Somers' contract! He pops up out of nowhere during extended rain delays. Maybe he has a mobile set up in his apartment. Also, he doesn't work on Sundays, must be in the fine print. Y'know, he always did that 20 minutes or so between the end of M&MD and the beginning of the pre-game show. After that, I think he just got paid to sit around the studio in case of a rain delay or, if not, wait until after the post-game was done. Nice work if you can get it. I just can't see Schmoozer with a whole set-up of high-tech equipment in what I picture as some hole in the wall apt with not much more in it other than a TV set, mini-fridge, and a bunch of empty chinese food containers. I never understood that. I guess they work 'shifts' whether they're on the air or not, but Francesa/Maddog ran that station so much that they didn't even have to cover up to the pregame? What's the logic in having a fresh host on for that. Hell, just extend the pregame and make Coleman do it and talk about BP or something. Air the Terry press conference. I guess it was probably just an excuse to overload us with ads and have Steve say one or two things and then more ads, and ads. and ads for all the people tuning in early for the Mets game? Anyway, I guess we're not going to get sports talk during rain delays then?

supposedly cleared to destroy the Jets this weekend. I've got him in my league too.