Ceetar

Edgy MD wrote: Folks were largely predisposed to feed him before he ever took the field. When he stumbled out of the gate, that just confirmed folks pre- established view. Lots of players like that. Colon?

Frayed Knot wrote: As if one single game was either the cause of, or the sole reason for, Mets fans dislike of Trachsel. Not suggesting that he should up there among the most popular, only that I've long thought the degree of hate was disproportionate to how he performed here. well I mention the crappy 2006 from start to finish as a reason why his win total (as if pitcher win totals mean much of anything) is not really cause for celebration. He stuck around for a while and pitched games and accumulated stats. Mostly inconsequential, bad, and slow games. He got demoted somewhere in there for basically sucking had some decent success after, but I think he gets the right amount of appreciation.

Edgy MD wrote: Even with time lost due to injury, I like Muh's chances to jump from ninth to second in doubles in a single season. An interesting note I learned from an Effectively Wild podcast. Doubles are hard! Earl Webb's record 67 was set in 1931 and no one has really gotten close. Plenty of people have been on pace into the second half, but it just never seems to happen. Todd Helton's 59 in 2000 was the only time in nearly 80 years that someone has even gotten within 10 of breaking that record. Just a thought on the difficulty of hitting doubles throughout the season. Perhaps the warmer weather makes more doubles become home runs?

Trachsel went 15-8 with a 4.97 ERA in 2006. He then pulled a mini-Glavine and went Single, (pickoff, if only Glavine had had this..), Walk, Single, foul popout, triple, walk, walk, K. end of inning. Home run, walk, single (off his thigh, the 'reason' he came out), walk, lifted from Mets forever. Two more runs score on a Darren Oliver wild pitch and a groundout. 5 runs, the Mets don't score. He's up there with Wagner for reasons the Mets lost that series. If it wasn't for Beltran that might've put them down 3-0.

Bruce definitely isn't happening now. Why would it? The Mets have Cuddyer, Cespedes, and Granderson. Next year, even if they don't extend Cespedes which might be the right move anyway, they have those two, plus Conforto and Nimmo. They don't NEED Bruce. Gomez helped them in a CF spot, but not with a busted hip. And that's without mentioning that the Mets are already paying a CFer in Lagares. You can't cherry pick when the finances play a part. Why would they pay two center fielders? were they going to move Gomez to a corner? No, not only would they still have a logjam there, he doesn't really have the numbers to play there. Sure, you gamble on the health and bounceback in center (not for Wheeler) but in a corner? no point. Complaining the Mets didn't throw money at Bruce just seems like cherry-picking a reason to be angry. What about Johnny Peralta or Kang? THOSE are the guys that it's much easier to pin a money reason on. They're both gambles in their own way (And Kang isn't playing SS, but they played Flores so that's not really a reason) but the payoff is a hell of a lot higher than Jay Bruce.

Ashie62 wrote: Looks like a Cuddyer/Conforto platoon from here on. Looks more like an 'ease Cuddyer back into it and see how his knee holds up' to me. Collins says Cuddyer will play the next two days.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Ceetar wrote: it was pretty clearly about the hip and not finances, previous red flags or assumptions about the Mets finances aren't really necessary. And you know this to be true because ........? because of all the evidence and quotes? we'll never know the specifics, but it's a huge stretch to blame it on finances based on any of the information we have. It's pretty hard to spin 'degenerative hip issue'. Maybe he's flat out lying. The best lies are based in fact after all, and well, Gomez has a hip issue.

nobody thinks the Brewers pulled out. One Milwaukee beat writer took a shot at the Mets an blamed finances, multiple other sources cite the hip. Statistics support the hip being an issue. Actual Gomez quotes support the hip being an issue. That's too risky for Wheeler. It's a negotiation. You could probably quibble about who said 'forget it' last, whether it was the Mets after seeing the medicals, or the Brewers after the Mets said 'not Wheeler', but it was pretty clearly about the hip and not finances, previous red flags or assumptions about the Mets finances aren't really necessary.

The extra millions the Wilpons rake in from a playoff race/berth and the subsequent raise in revenue associated with ad prices and the like is pretty much going to clinch them never ever selling.

Washington has had their horses back for a while now and they still are 3-7 L10. The Mets have what they need to win this division, and that's what's got me exuberant and saving pennies for a postseason game.

d'Kong76 wrote: Anyway, DH'ng tomorrow down in the deep south... they don't have one of those in the NL...yet.

only one run. We got this right?

Nymr83 wrote: It's 7-0 after 5, if Harvey is on any kind of innings limit following Tommy John surgery, should he be yanked here? He's thrown so few pitches I'd almost want him to get some more work in in the pen. He's barely broken a sweat!

oh yes, the '86 Mets story killed whole forests in coverage and story line afterwards. This season is certainly shaping up to have plenty of retrospective e-ink spilled if they make it deep.

Rehab's a quirky thing. I imagine Terry's going up there to be the tough love guy to try to motivate a rehab. Rehab is tough from what I understand, hard work, pain, a little gun shy about re-injuring yourself. Sometimes that fine line between pushing hard enough to get better and pushing too hard and hurting yourself again is tough to navigate ,especially for pitchers. I don't know Montero's specific issue, I almost feel like the Mets themselves were dragging their feet early because of a cramped rotation.

This is fun.

I've been itching to get Sophie back out to a second game. That Sunday sounds promising.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Mets acquire him from Oakland for a PITA. Alex Torres DFAed. Did anyone notice I wrote PITA when I meant PTBNL? Hope he's bringing the Tzatziki sauce. Whatever. Another pitcher yay. These fringe moves, like backup catcher, are the things first place teams fret over.

Edgy MD wrote: Seems strange to let him go less than a week after allowing him to move three of your best players. sorta the exact right point isn't it? Give a new guy time to get his feet wet in arguably the slowest part of the season?

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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I think our goal must be to make certain that last weekend of the season doesn't matter. STEP ON IT. The Nationals look to be taking care of that for us, but yeah. Let's clinch in Philly before that homestand.

Centerfield wrote: Centerfield wrote: I suspect that will be the last we see of first place this season. That ride ended fast. Wow. I am full of all sorts of great predictions this year. So, will the Nationals see first place again this season?

Mets Ace Zack Godley shut them down today. If only they'd had Scherzer, clearly.

Bryce Harper: "I don�t give a crap what the Mets are doing. Or Dodgers or Giants or Texas or anybody. I know what kind of team we are."

Edgy MD wrote: There's been some strangely self-serving arguing in recent days, switching from the nothing's-gonna-happen-Mets-suck perspective to the something-only-happened-because-we-dared-them-by-saying-nothing's-gonna-happen-fans-rool! perspective. That's leaving out, for the moment, that the that the Cespedes trade had relatively little concrete impact on the Mets' sweep. True, but Friday night and the whole Flores story was basically made possible by the fans making him cry in the first place.