seawolf17

smg58 wrote: attgig wrote: I think this has to be the weakest move of the day. a closer for 6.5 mil a year is fine. i can understand WHY you would trade pagan for torres & ramirez. But a middle reliever (I'd think Ramirez is a better setup option than Rausch) at 3.5 mil seems a little steep. sure he has closing experience, but he wasn't really good at it. I think Dotel or even Saito would be better for the price. Saito's gone; signed with someone the other day.

Willis had a 2.63 ERA in 13 starts (70 innings) in AAA last year, and he's only 30 in January. I'm not saying he hasn't had issues, but he's not exactly a lost cause.

Vic Sage wrote: "shockets" ... really? Are you making up words again? And Einhorn is too smart to invest in this team without a clear path to ownership; that's what queered the deal in the first place. That was my impression, yes. He wanted a shot at the whole shebang, and the Wilpons wouldn't give him one.

Edgy DC wrote: Is it Valadius who digs hitting pitchers? Valadius fellates Owings every chance he gets. I think his head would explode if the Mets signed him.

fman and irish knocked out, and MFS62 brings Sandy Alderson to the table and eliminates Ashie's lot. If he wins, he'll take the rest of attgig's list and move on.

I still don't know, and I even used it.

Saunders didn't exactly light the world on fire last year, but I'd give him a Young-Capuano deal.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Same here. My point in asking the question was... well, yeah, Mole missed a line. But meter or scansion that's completely off throws me almost as much. Someone beat me up over scansion a few years ago, when I thought it sounded perfect in my head. I guess that's why we vote; some people see it one way, some people see it another way. Thing is, you have to bring it EVERY SINGLE TIME if you want to take home the golden microphone.

Catcher Lucas May and lefty Garrett Olson are the two minor league FAs.

Maybe everybody can drink a cup of shut the fuck up about Reyes' batting title now.

Yep; we've got great stuff up there already.

Vic Sage wrote: do i just start a thread for my round vs OldMole -- or do you set it up? or do i wait to hear from him? I'm assuming that means you're ready to go -- shoot him a PM or something and let him know, and then one of you starts the poll.

TransMonk wrote: The Brewers replace SS Yuneski Betancourt (.271 OPS in 2011 - 2nd worst in the NL) with ex-Brave Alex Gonzalez (.270 OPS in 2011 - worst in the NL) in a one-year deal with a vesting option. More Ks, but more defense. The Jimmy Rollins rumors die in Milwaukee. Were they really ever considering Jose? OBP, not OPS. I had to check that, but they may be bad, but they can't be THAT bad. I'm still not sure which Alex Gonzalez is still playing, the former Marlin or former Blue Jay. Or even if those are the same guy.

I'm going on the assumption that Irish and LWFS have done that, but whatever. We'll work it out.

Irish threw up the first challenge; two people, who shall remain nameless, commented already. I'd like to wait until LWFS gets his response up before we start slapping comments up there; makes the challenge threads tidier. Like this: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10739 Not this: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10749

Nobody listens to me anymore. Please: NOBODY POST IN IRISH'S POST UNTIL LWFS IS IN THERE. Thanks.

Pushed the byes through so it's a little clearer.

Let's try to knock out the first-round games first: 16 metirish vs 17 LWFS 15 attgig vs 18 Ashie62 14 CF vs 19 Ceetar 13 OldMole vs 20 Vic Sage 12 fman99 vs 21 Metfairy Then we'll pick up the round of 16. The process: Discuss -- here, in PMs, whatever -- when you'll be ready to go. One person starts a poll thread with their lyrics and, hopefully, a link to the original song in case we don't know it. Then the other person replies with their lyrics/song. Let's try to have NO DISCUSSION until both songs are posted, just so we have songs in the first two posts. Go!

Topics are now listed in the second post above.

On there. Randomizing NOW.

Before I randomize and post -- I have the Top 500 players, notable coaches/managers/broadcasters/administrators, and years. Anything I'm missing?

Fixed.

And eliminates confusion about ownership of players. I'll fix.

I posted it as double-elim and forgot to discuss that with all of y'all. I suppose I should cut that back to single-elim.

Desperately wanted to rig the list to get Jose on CF's list, but alas, it was not meant to be. (2) A Boy Named Seo Kris Benson Jack Aker Bill Wakefield Cleon Jones Mike Bruhert (3) JCL Cliff Cook [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Al Leiter[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] Gene Clines Al Jackson Paul Gibson George Altman Mike Piazza Graeme Lloyd John Mitchell John Christensen Todd Pratt Jeff Reardon (4) soupcan Gordie Richardson Livan Hernandez Brent Gaff Jerry Dipoto [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Mike Marshall (1B)[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] Mark Bomback Scott Strickland Gregg Jefferies Walt Terrell Doug Mientkiewicz Rickey Henderson Ron Herbel (5) Edgy DC Darrell Sutherland [crossout:1lh9vkhs]1994[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] Joe Foy Damion Easley 1993 Daryl Boston John Stephenson Ken Boswell Roger Craig Greg McMichael Mike Maddux Bob Rauch (6) metsmarathon Guillermo Mota Brian Schneider Pat Mahomes Jonathan Niese Ray Sadecki (7) Willets Point Victor Zambrano Pete Falcone 1999 Darryl Hamilton Jerry Koosman (8) Valadius Nolan Ryan Howie Rose 2008 Tommy Davis Scott Holman (9) seawolf17 Warren Spahn Willard Hunter Jason Phillips Jeff Francoeur Art Howe (10) sharpie Orlando Hernandez Jim Beauchamp Steve Phillips Elmer Dessens Bob Moorhead (11) Transmonk 1986 Pedro Astacio Willie Montanez Phil Hennigan Rick Reed (15) attgig [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Moises Alou[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] Pat Zachry Randy Myers Kevin Kobel Mike Jorgensen (17) LWFS [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Lee Guetterman[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] 1983 Ray Knight Ken McKenzie [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Carl Everett[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] Joe Pignatano Chuck Hiller 1969 Tony Castillo Galen Cisco Jose Oquendo Sean Green Ryan Thompson (1) G-Fafif [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Willie Randolph[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] (12) fman99 [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Bob Apodaca[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] (13) TheOldMole [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Josh Thole[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Tom Glavine[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] (14) CF [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Paul Wilson[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] (16) metirish [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Raul Gonzalez[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] (18) [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Ashie62[/crossout:1lh9vkhs]/MFS62 [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Sandy Alderson[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] (19) Ceetar [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Wayne Hagin[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] [crossout:1lh9vkhs]David Wright[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] (20) Vic Sage [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Vince Coleman[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] (21) TheMetFairy [crossout:1lh9vkhs]1964[/crossout:1lh9vkhs] [crossout:1lh9vkhs]Lastings Milledge[/crossout:1lh9vkhs]