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Or as a big market team is it ever time to sell? With Reyes and Beltran apparently nowhere near returning and time slipping and losses piling can the Mets be sellers? Brian Schneider Luis Castillo Alex Cora..just kidding John Maine Gary Sheffield Angel Pagan Jeff Francoeur It's depressing but the Mets don't look like a team with any run. Any thoughts?

Great article...Best on-air crew I've watched with no disrepect to the original three. I have to admit I liked McCarver in 86. Probably a product of winning every damn day

="Edgy DC":3f7k326p]Call my bluff and start him.[/quote:3f7k326p] Edgy. I was actually joking..Earlier in the year I posted giving Parnell a shot as a starter but the common response was he couldn't bring heat for more than an inning or 2 and he didn't have enough pitches. If the season gets uglier come late August I'm all for starting him for a 5 or 6 start sample. Edgy DC Jul 16 2009 08:26 AM I don't recall that exchange. I understand steering guys with a limited array of pitches toward the pen, but there are plenty of guys who've succeeded as starters with only two pitches. There are plenty more who throw their third or fourth pitch only five times a game. Centerfield Jul 16 2009 09:31 AM If you're a two pitch starter, but pitches are plus pitches. Parnell has a good fastball, ok slider. I see him in middle relief. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 16 2009 10:07 AM Parnell's slider is just okay. Iffy command, middling movement. Also, he didn't throw nearly as hard when starting (91-92 rather than 95-96). Since his slider is 86-87, that would make his speed differential just about 5 mph... meaning that hitters wouldn't have to adjust their timing significantly to hit his "off-speed" stuff. Unless he does some serious workshopping on the slider and/or a third pitch, and that work proves successful, there are significantly better options in Niese and/or Holt for late-season show-me starts.

Pelfrey 2 Murphy 1 Castillo 1 Cora 1 Wright 1 Sheffield 2 Francoeur 1.5 Parnell 0.5

The Mets also signed him to throw out a flag to other FA's and their Latin Develpment program which has produced zero. Fuck Pedro..and Little Pedro

="G-Fafif":3gr0fzb2]Fine representatives of Metsdom all. I went with Tim Robbins because he's lent his voice to at least two documentaries, really knows his stuff in interviews, seems more sincere than just looking for laffs and had to put up with Mike & the Mad Dog questioning his authenticity. Dude's eleventh birthday was Game Five of the '69 WS.[/quote:3gr0fzb2] "Shawshank Stadium? Oh, thats in the bronx Triple Dee Jul 15 2009 11:01 PM Seeing Julia Stiles in a Mets shirt must be close to the sexiest thing I've ever seen. TransMonk Jul 16 2009 07:16 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 16 2009 07:36 AM Matt Dillon anyone? Benjamin Grimm Jul 16 2009 07:23 AM I voted Tim Robbins. He seems to know his stuff. Edgy DC Jul 16 2009 07:25 AM This deserves a bracket. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 16 2009 09:10 AM Stiles... is tempting. Stewart, Mortensen, and Matt-- or Kevin-- Dillon work as well*. Chuck D's a fun, brassy dark horse as well. (Close's intermittent Yank-ing around a decade back rankles.) Though I could have just as easily gone with Robbins, I went with Seinfeld, with the tiebreaker being his promulgation of Metsiana in the popular culture. [i do think Stewart or-- I have little to support this, merely a feeling-- Mortensen would make the best CPFers.] *Entourage's Kevin Connolly, however, is first against the wall once the revolution comes. The native LONG ISLANDER gets it for a show moment he ad-libbed (against the wishes of Dillon and several show producers... largely because it's inaccurate) wherein his character asks about Yankee-Angels tickets and offhands "Who cares about the Mets?" metirish Jul 16 2009 09:28 AM George Thorogood , our own JCL has a great interview with him. Big time Mets fan is George. Benjamin Grimm Jul 16 2009 09:30 AM George Thorogood? Never heard of him. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 16 2009 09:45 AM ="Triple Dee"]Seeing Julia Stiles in a Mets shirt must be close to the sexiest thing I've ever seen. Hold on to your hats, gents-- she rocks hers old-style/no orange button. Benjamin Grimm Jul 16 2009 09:53 AM Bought a blue Mets cap for my son the other day, and it had the blue button on top. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 16 2009 09:57 AM You're joking about Lonesome George, yes? Have you ever seen a movie with a charasmatic villian? duh-nuh-NUH, nuh-nah-nah... duh-nuh-NUH, nuh-nah-nah.. dgwphotography Jul 16 2009 10:01 AM I'd have to say Tim Robbins - he does seem to know his stuff... Pearl Bailey just has to be mentioned in this thread... Benjamin Grimm Jul 16 2009 10:09 AM No, seriously, I have no idea who George is. (As I've said many times before, music isn't my thing.) soupcan Jul 16 2009 10:11 AM Hillary Swank anyone...? ] Born in Lincoln, Nebraska and raised in Bellingham, Washington, Hilary Swank, an undeafed Oscar Champ (2 nominations: two wins), now lives in a 4-story Greenwich Village brownstone. Hilary's love for Rob Lowe's brother has recently ended, but she still loves the Mets. ] As Chris works, Swank will simultaneously try to give an interview, telling a story about her reaction to Mets outfielder Carlos Beltran's now infamous strikeout to decide the National League Championship, which she attended in person and which she will talk about for nearly seven minutes, a rather incisive discourse by a rabid fan (forgetting for a moment the fact that she calls them points instead of runs) on matters of fame and talent and opportunities lost, on the value of the long run and the big picture, meanwhile carefully keeping closed the ranks of celebrity, never once even suggesting that the great man might have choked. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 16 2009 10:13 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 16 2009 10:16 AM ="Benjamin Grimm"]No, seriously, I have no idea who George is. (As I've said many times before, music isn't my thing.) Oh, and Hillary's okay (the points-runs business aside). But the writer of that profile needs a bit of a five-fingered nose adjustment. ]... carefully keeping closed the ranks of celebrity, never once even suggesting that the great man might have choked. Centerfield Jul 16 2009 10:15 AM I would say Seinfeld. He's been the most visible with his love for the Mets. Except maybe Tim Robbins, but I think he's kind of a tool. Chris Rock and Kevin James are too notables not in this poll. Centerfield Jul 16 2009 10:17 AM It's amazing. I've never considered Julia Stiles or Hillary Swank to be particularly attractive. Put that old school Mets hat on them (no orange dot) and suddenly they start pushing Top 5 territory. (falling short, but they're in the neighborhood). OlerudOwned Jul 16 2009 10:50 AM Voted Seinfeld, I think he did the most in blending his fandom with his own career. bmfc1 Jul 16 2009 10:51 AM It's impossible to choose. All have expressed their Mets loyalty w/o jumping to the MFYs. For this, I am am fan of each one. I would add Kevin James to this mix. He refused to wear a MFY uniform when taking BP at YS (while proudly wearing the Mets uniform at Shea). He named his daughter Shea. themetfairy Jul 16 2009 10:53 AM ="bmfc1":cy4zyjgt]It's impossible to choose. All have expressed their Mets loyalty w/o jumping to the MFYs. For this, I am am fan of each one. [/quote:cy4zyjgt] Agreed. G-Fafif Jul 16 2009 12:55 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Entourage's Kevin Connolly, however, is first against the wall once the revolution comes. The native LONG ISLANDER gets it for a show moment he ad-libbed (against the wishes of Dillon and several show producers... largely because it's inaccurate) wherein his character asks about Yankee-Angels tickets and offhands "Who cares about the Mets?" Showrunner Doug Ellin planned to make E a Mets fan but Connolly wouldn't go for it. BOO!!! Seinfeld lost my support when he came on with Steve Somers after the Home Opener and told Mets fans to STFU regarding any criticism of Citi Field. The Wilpons arranged for his beautiful suite and therefore they could no wrong. Benjamin Grimm Jul 16 2009 01:15 PM Despite that Keith Hernandez episode (overrated, by the way) Seinfeld became much more of a Yankee show when George started working for Steinbrenner. I know Jerry was probably mocking the Yankees owner, but I doubt that many of the Bronx fans picked up on that. All that Yankee stuff eventually helped make the show unwatchable for me. G-Fafif Jul 16 2009 01:58 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":18617xxn]Despite that Keith Hernandez episode (overrated, by the way) Seinfeld became much more of a Yankee show when George started working for Steinbrenner. I know Jerry was probably mocking the Yankees owner, but I doubt that many of the Bronx fans picked up on that. All that Yankee stuff eventually helped make the show unwatchable for me.[/quote:18617xxn] Co-creator Larry David's an MFY fan (and played Steinbrenner). When given every opportunity to slam MFYs, Jerry generally backs off. He's got an audience to sell to and he's not going to offend any of them. (Unless they run airlines...what's the deal with those peanuts?) G-Fafif Jul 16 2009 02:00 PM Jon Stewart, who sort of started this discussion, revisits his first pitch from NLCS Game Two '06 (last night): The Daily Show With Jon StewartMon - Thurs 11p / 10cObama's All-Star Pitchwww.thedailyshow.comDaily Show Full EpisodesPolitical HumorJoke of the Day Edgy DC Jul 16 2009 02:13 PM The description --- "moved up and dug it out of the dirt" --- seemed a pretty accurate description of what happened. "Dug out of the dirt" is frequently used when a player fields a low throw or pitch with his glove against the ground. dgwphotography Jul 16 2009 02:30 PM ="Edgy DC":vxf4enq0]The description --- "moved up and dug it out of the dirt" --- seemed a pretty accurate description of what happened. "Dug out of the dirt" is frequently used when a player fields a low throw or pitch with his glove against the ground.[/quote:vxf4enq0] That's what I was thinking.. Just going out of his way to make a dig at Fox. At least he made a dig at MSNBC, too... Farmer Ted Jul 16 2009 02:40 PM Total candy arm. If he was Costanza, they'd call him a Mary. I don't know what's worse, his throw or bowling prowess. Should stick to hoops. Edgy DC Jul 16 2009 02:49 PM ="dgwphotography":1x4giyar]="Edgy DC":1x4giyar]The description --- "moved up and dug it out of the dirt" --- seemed a pretty accurate description of what happened. "Dug out of the dirt" is frequently used when a player fields a low throw or pitch with his glove against the ground.[/quote:1x4giyar] That's what I was thinking.. Just going out of his way to make a dig at Fox. At least he made a dig at MSNBC, too...[/quote:1x4giyar] No, they were very different. One was an outright mis-statement of facts. The other was clear satire. He essentially equated what FOX did --- which was nothing, going by what I saw --- with what he pretended fake MSNBC did. So even his joke about MSNBC was itself a dig at FOX. G-Fafif Jul 16 2009 02:55 PM I can see cheering spitefully some extra-inning game when Yadier Molina is knocked out of the game and La Russa has no backup catchers so Pujols volunteers to step in behind the plate based on his experience catching Obama. And I can see Beltran being tagged about by Albert in the top of the 16th on what he thought was going to be a Wild Pitch but it bounced back off that brick wall at Busch and the Cardinal fans, wearing red, cheer in their characteristically supportive way. Beltran, of course, forgot to slide. Then Pujols hits a home run off Sean Green to end it. G-Fafif Jul 16 2009 02:57 PM ="Edgy DC":35fuifho]No, they were very different. One was an outright mis-statement of facts. The other was clear satire. He essentially equated what FOX did --- which was nothing, going by what I saw --- with what he pretended fake MSNBC did. So even his joke about MSNBC was itself a dig at FOX.[/quote:35fuifho] Would your life really be that much better without Jon Stewart? Nymr83 Jul 16 2009 02:58 PM isnt Ray Romano one of ours too? Edgy DC Jul 16 2009 03:02 PM ]Would your life really be that much better without Jon Stewart? I think I'm calling it pretty fairly. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 16 2009 03:07 PM ="Nymr83":dius69g1]isnt Ray Romano one of ours too?[/quote:dius69g1] Um... nope. (Warning, the below is kind of galling.) http://www.tmz.com/2008/06/13/ray-romano-everybody-hates-boston/ Benjamin Grimm Jul 16 2009 03:13 PM He "came out" as a Yankee fan in the Daily News a couple of weeks ago. I was sure he was a Mets fan. At least, Ray Barrone was. dgwphotography Jul 16 2009 05:52 PM ="Benjamin Grimm"]He "came out" as a Yankee fan in the Daily News a couple of weeks ago. I was sure he was a Mets fan. At least, Ray Barrone was. Not a surprise. There was an episode that featured a few of the 69 Mets, and had Ray and his brother singing Meet The Mets They got the words wrong... LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 16 2009 06:33 PM ="dgwphotography"]="Benjamin Grimm"]He "came out" as a Yankee fan in the Daily News a couple of weeks ago. I was sure he was a Mets fan. At least, Ray Barrone was. Not a surprise. There was an episode that featured a few of the 69 Mets, and had Ray and his brother singing Meet The Mets They got the words wrong... Ever since I found out, I can't watch ELR. It feels just the tiniest bit like blackface. Fman99 Jul 24 2009 06:24 AM Jim Brewer, former SNL cast member and generally funny/obnoxious comic, on life as a Mets fan. ]They suck. It�s like being in love with an alcoholic. It�s like, you constantly defend her, and people are like, �Dude, your alcoholic friend is a mess,� and you�re like, �Nah, you don�t know her like I do.�

That lens is scaring me

Valentine is not going to the Nats..not enough spotlight. He may use them to negotiate. Fred and Jeff..Fire the Fuckstick we have as a manager and offer Bobby V a quadrillion dollars! now!

="metirish":fl693ser]Why closer to Manhattan when you live closer to Philly? the image is very beautiful , great capture.[/quote:fl693ser] Wish it was closer to Newark...sorry..train goes there dgwphotography Jul 16 2009 11:45 AM ="G-Fafif":19bf1wye]Great picture, no surprise, considering the lensman.[/quote:19bf1wye] This takes me back to the writing in those 1970's yearbooks.... ="G-Fafif":19bf1wye]Park and setting still need to be surrounded by a city block for full effect. Otherwise it still smacks of Arlington Comes to Flushing rather than homage to St. Ebbets.[/quote:19bf1wye] This is an excellent point - I oddly felt more in place when standing line for the the Mr. Met dash by the chop shops... G-Fafif Jul 16 2009 12:50 PM I think CF looks best when viewed from 126th St, though that's not really the ballpark. The admin building looks like a civic institution there, like a school or post office from the 1930s. Fits into a neighborhood even if the neighborhood isn't there. I like the back end of it, supporting the Willie Mays Bridge and the Pepsi Porch, as viewed from the Promenade as well. A bit of an OP@CY warehouse feel. Just a bit.

="Edgy DC":1tcz4d67]They have developed their own Halladay and his name is Bobby Parnell. If the SHaMs start Parnell, by August, the notion that we were once interested in selling the farm for Halladay (and giving him $100 mills+ over five years) will seem quaint.[/quote:1tcz4d67] Son, is this some sort of a sick joke? Edgy DC Jul 15 2009 10:42 PM Call my bluff and start him. MFS62 Jul 16 2009 08:00 AM I agree with Edgy - let's see what Parnell can do as a starter. Also Halliday, Holliday, Shmaliday, Shmoliday, Joel Sherman put his two cents in intimating Minata hasn't been trying: http://www.nypost.com/seven/07162009/sports/mets/holliday_slumber_shows_omars_failures_179579.htm?&page=0 Later Ashie62 Jul 16 2009 08:11 AM ="Edgy DC":3f7k326p]Call my bluff and start him.[/quote:3f7k326p] Edgy. I was actually joking..Earlier in the year I posted giving Parnell a shot as a starter but the common response was he couldn't bring heat for more than an inning or 2 and he didn't have enough pitches. If the season gets uglier come late August I'm all for starting him for a 5 or 6 start sample. Edgy DC Jul 16 2009 08:26 AM I don't recall that exchange. I understand steering guys with a limited array of pitches toward the pen, but there are plenty of guys who've succeeded as starters with only two pitches. There are plenty more who throw their third or fourth pitch only five times a game. Centerfield Jul 16 2009 09:31 AM If you're a two pitch starter, but pitches are plus pitches. Parnell has a good fastball, ok slider. I see him in middle relief. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 16 2009 10:07 AM Parnell's slider is just okay. Iffy command, middling movement. Also, he didn't throw nearly as hard when starting (91-92 rather than 95-96). Since his slider is 86-87, that would make his speed differential just about 5 mph... meaning that hitters wouldn't have to adjust their timing significantly to hit his "off-speed" stuff. Unless he does some serious workshopping on the slider and/or a third pitch, and that work proves successful, there are significantly better options in Niese and/or Holt for late-season show-me starts.

What are the only 2 days of the year when there are no U.S. major sports scheduled? The day before and after the all-star game. I would have been more impressed if Fox showed Barry's 56 footer

"Keith, I'm looking at the third base coach and I don't think he's waving you in" Got to love the Sein

These kids in LF look like Muffy

="Benjamin Grimm":2tmbcho1]The first word that will always come to mind is "concussion." And then I'll think about how the Mets made him fly from city to city while his head was spinning.[/quote:2tmbcho1] concussion and medical staff indecision

Ryan Church was a part-time stiff..pleez...now Dump Muffy anf Fartman for Dunn and 1B is set for this year and next

Nieve 2.5 Parnell 0.5 S.Green 1 Murphy 1.5

Santana 4 Pagan 2 Francoeur 2 Santos 1 Feliciano 0.5 F Rodriguez 0.5

Murphy will not be a Mets starter next year..Frenchie will

Like the middle of our lineup better, now get it Dunn

Love it..Francouer will be in the lineup everyday beyond this year. Now get Adam Dunn or IB for this year and next It is an in-sason rebuilding.. Face it..the injured core will be seen at spring training

seawolf17 wrote: [ashie] Daniel Murphy, your 2009 NL Gold Glove winner at first base. [/ashie] you rang? NICE OUTCOME** Jocularity

shitfuck

Omar looks like he has hot nuts for Sheff Quite the hair hat for Jeffy..

They should put Gilbert Gottfried in the booth to class up the viewing experience