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Let me see if I understand properly what happened here. For all of baseball history from time immorial, if the picture is caught with rosin or pine tar on his hand or body he is labeled a dirty rotten cheater. But now all of a sudden the Yankee pitcher uses pine tar on his body or hand and lo and behold we should change the rules. The rule is clearly wrong! It must be a bad rule if a Yankee is breaking it! What am I missing?

also, and importantly, it is quite clear from my interactions with and observations of mets fans, that a great number of them, possibly even a majority of them, do not actually like their team.

also, a facebook "like" is forever, or at least until you "un-like" (or should it be "de-like"?) that thing. it's not so much a map of current baseball "likes", but, to a somewhat greater extent, represents a cumulative historical map of baseball "likes", covering, like, the past 5-8 years i guess.

football doesnt do it because hte replay is done under hte hood, onsite. mlb doesnt need to have that limitation, as they should be offsite. if they can't hire another official for at most 16 games a day, whose job it is to look at a game, with an eye for close calls, and proactively investigate them, then shame on them. they have more htan enough money. how does hockey do it? as far as the camera angles, you're right.. there are limitations. but it should be possible to get almost hte same angles at almost every stadium. even if it means installing fixed cameras for fixed views. like the camera over home plate at citi field. this also would solve hte limitation of home field television converage, if there are standardized fixed views of the plate and the bases. again, baseball should have the money to employ camera operators if the games aren't broadcast, and also to maintain the cameras or mandate a minimum camera spec. they're paying players millions of dollars. . they can afford to run some more cameras. by having all live game fed run into mlb replay headquarters, you eliminate the possibility of a sneaky broadcast outfit holding back on a exonerating reel that would go against the home team. footballs' probalem, too, is that they've gotten to omuch wiggle room on "control of the ball" especially in such a fashion as to virtually ignore what happens when a ball and a body contact the ground and/or another body. it's going to move. duh. in football, too, there's a lot more stuff in the way, and its hard to get the right camera angles set up. the play could happen anywhere on the field. in baseball, you know where the bases are. you know where the ball is coming from, and have a general idea of where hte players are likely to be.

07871 mfy 67% mets 16% sawx 6% be cool if you could limit the map to team-by-team searches. what's the darkest metly zip code. that sort of thing.

Ceetar wrote: yeah, the challenge bit was dumb. I wasn't aware umpires couldn't review it on their own before the 7th. It should be like that the whole time. Umpires can call for the review themselves after the 6th inning, otherwise the managers can come out and ask them. none of this challenge stuff. And look, this preserves the 'managers yelling at things' angle. Let them come out and yell for a replay. Sure, some managers might try to abuse it by calling for replays on every play, or on simple plays when their player needs a breather, but that's why the umpires can say no. (THERE's an angle. 5th inning, your pitcher is struggling, gives up a liner to left field. Go out and argue it was a actually caught or something. You get the one challenge anyway, even if it's blatantly stupid. At the very least you get a minute for your pitcher to catch his breath and regroup without having to use a mound visit.) I wrote: let the manager challenge as much as he wants. if he gets two (or three) wrong, he's out of hte game. i like my solution. clamps down on cantankerousness for cantankerousness's sake, while still allowing for the maximum amount of correct calls. and with a more instant review as i also proposed above, the delays would be minimized to the point where the stategery of inserting a game delay is minimized.

the thing is, that's the same type of thing that the umpires and football refs are trying to suss out with their unassisted eyeballs. now, however, they need to figure out how much movement is too much, as in any situation where two objects collide, there is always movement. it's not so readily discernable to the naked eye, but slow it down and zoom in, and there's all kinds of shaking, rattling, and rolling going on. you wouldn't believe how much a baseball bat flexes when it hits a ball, but you can see it in the super slow-mo. i think that even though there are definitely some bumps in the road, these are all problems attributable to the early implementation of instant replay, and they are all fixable to certain extents, really up to hte limit that baseball is willing to fix it. there's nothing wrong with replay that should cause them to scrap the whole system, merely refine its implementation and usage.. standardizing camera angles to an extent, and adding even more, better cameras if coverage gaps are found, would be a first step. having dedicated replay officials for each game, also, whose job it is to begin reviewing a play AS SOON as a questionable call is made. with a dozen or so monitors of synchronized game footage, this should be a fast-response kind of thing. there's no need for it to take five minutes of serially inching through tape, camera by camera. watch it from all angles at the same time. and put a good camera feed up on the scoreboard for hte fans to play along. limiting the managers to two challenges is dumb. allowing htem to come out, stand around while waiting for their replay consultant to give them a thimbs up or thumbs down is also dumb. if they come out, the challenge is initiated. since the response is intant, there should be no extra delay. let the manager challenge as much as he wants. if he gets two (or three) wrong, he's out of hte game.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: am i missing anything? The Qualcomm radio interview. I don't think this would be a story* if Hovvey hadn't nuked his twitter account; that drew passions of the fans who at some level were relying on him to entertain them and recast he and the team on opposite sides again. *-At least, not as much of a story, and even then, it's not much. right. that. sorry, i'm not here to talk about qualcomm. is it really the fans making a big deal out of this story, or the media, or the fans making a big deal about the media making a big deal about it?

oh, i think that twitter, and, to a lesser and sometimes greater extent, facebook, is for narcissists and brands, and narcissits who think that they are brands. i myself like to overeact to collective overreactions by calling for less of a reaction. this should be a non story and a non issue. but it became a story and an issue, and, well, we're mets fans who like to talk about mets stories and mets issues.

here's the thing. while i agree that harvy is a big dumb jock doing big dumb jock things, living in his own world where he is the rightful and true center of its universe, around which hte moon and sun and stars all revolve, and damn the mathematics behind it all... his transgressions have been incredibly mild. incredibly mild. for a guy who kinda oozes douchebagginess (he grew up a yankee fan, right?), what has he really done wrong, other than living in the hype? he publicly drove a blinged out large SUV to spring training last year. who are we to care how he spends his money and how he gets to spring training? do we expect him to drive a beater '97 civic? good heavens he posted it to twitter! bfd. he dated a supermodel, and even took her to a rangers game. i guess he should start out dating waitresses from denny's, and only take them to the olive garden, or maybe to a park. but definitely nowhere where they could be noticed, or worse, televised for just being there. he posed naked for a magazine. the same magazine that jose reyes posed for two years prior. and, really, the photos are less of an embarrasment than the preposterous fully clothed david wright / jose reyes GQ spread from so many years ago. he wanted to exercise his right to rehab with the team, instead of in the back corner of the middle of nowhere, florida, and publicly argued with the team over it. he posted a "obscene" gesture regarding his feelings towards tjs, and reacted "petulently" when the organization (probably) reacted negatively. hte obscenity was not directed at or against anybody, and was done out of uniform, far from the playing field. am i missing anything? man, what a jerk. run him out of the game already. seriously. these are his transgressions. what am i missing? you tell me. what has he done that's so godawful? is he disrespectful towards women or minorities? is there any direct evidence that he is now and/or has been a bully, other than his assumed jockiness? is he abusive, either physically or sexually? is he a drunk, a lecherous lout? is he on drugs? is he selling drugs? does he drown kittens and electrocute puppies? is he still a yankee fan? i don't fucking get you people.

Gee 5.2 Eyoung 2.6 Germen 1.7 Granderson 0.3 Valverde 0.2

Mejia 4.4 Rice 1.6 Wright 1.2 Torres 1.0 Farnsworth 1.0 Tejada 0.8

Matsuzaka 3.1 Wheeler 2.3 Wright 1.2 Rice 1.0 Torres 1.0 Duda 0.7 Valverde 0.7

Colon 3.0 Wright 2.4 Cyoung 1.9 Eyoung 1.6 Murphy 1.0 Duda 0.1

unadjusted for schaefer limitations, i had niese at 7.6 for the april 18th game. its not that he was particularly outstanding, just that, relative to everything else in that game, and my translation of doing good things into schaefer votes, he was.

Niese 6.0 Torres 1.5 Eyoung 1.0 Wright 1.0

Centerfield wrote: ...I can't imagine why on earth a free agent would want to sign here. they all come here to wear the same uniform and share the same field as mr. met. can there be any higher honor?

he's fed up with the needless and pointless criticism. i see it as a "more trouble than its worth, fuck this shit" reaction/overreaction. if he's fed up with twitter, and "done" with it, why not delete it?

he's a dumb kid who posted a dumb photo. if he'd tweeted "6 months since TJS. Fuck You, surgery!" would anybody even bat an eye or clutch their pearls? all the time, in interviews, and on the field, and in public, athletes utter obscenities. are they all classless attention whores? its nonsense. stupid fucking nonsense. not the picture - the offense-taking. its all stupid nonsense. yeah, i get it - he's a public representative of his employer. what-fucking-ever. he's still not the official voice of the mets. (and if he was, he might do a better job than jay horowitz.) he's a dude with a twitter account who uttered a visual obscenity. move along. what it directed at anybody? was it meant to detract from anybody or degrade anybody? did it represent deviant or dangerous or destructive or illegal behaviour? no, of course not. it's a big fat pile of nothing.

Minimm conflates him with Matt Harvey and pretends to be flamethrowing first base power hitter Matt Davis during backyard baseball.

Gee 4.7 Recker 2.2 Rice 1.3 Murphy 1.1 EYoung 0.4 Brown 0.3

Nieuwenhuis 2.9 Mejia 2.1 Germen 1.8 EYoung 1.7 Duda 0.8 Farnsworth 0.7

Wheeler 3.0 EYoung 1.9 Murphy 1.6 Duda 1.4 Torres 1.4 Wright 0.7

d'Kong76 wrote: Mets � Willets Point wrote: I think the "kill shot" would be absorbed by the costume head before it reached the real human head. Wouldn't bank my head on that. i'm sure the mr. met head could, in theory, be up-armored to withstand a high-powered sniper shot, but the standard mascot head would barely slow the round down, as it needs to be fairly light, no? and at the base, where the head meets the neck would be highly vulnerable. bullet goes here, basically. uparmoring the rest of the uniform would be very challenging as well.

the point being, too, that once the big ol' baseball head is on, there's no knowing who's inside.