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Benjamin Grimm wrote: Why did he only sign a one-year deal with the Twins? I don't remember what that was about. it wasn't a 1 year, it had an opt-out since he didn't get the huge deal last year that he wanted...then he opted out

I'm glad that Lugo was able to last long enough to get a decent contract for a reliever that wasn't really a setup/closer type of reliever...happy for him getting a reward...having said that, Lugo in the last couple seasons didn't give me the same confidence that he gave me when he first primarily became a reliever (2018-2019).... by the way, didn't realize that there were 2 Lugo threads...sorry if I put my opinion in the wrong thread

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=115119 time=1671483226 user_id=68] He said he left the Mets because of Chris Young's vision.

Kinda funny... I just read this thread here, not noticing that it was a quote from the Athletic. A notification showed up on my phone, clicked on the article without reading the title...read the section on Steve Cohen thinking "I swear that I just read this, word for word" ... returned to the forum, and saw the quote...

I don't know what to say to that...seems like an overpay to me

Edgy MD wrote: I would disagree with that. I think we've all read some variation on that, and allowed it to become an established truth, while we neglect to cite where we got it, and mostly don't remember where we got it, or what the break-even point actually is alleged to be. I second that...obviously, if a guy is not an elite base stealer, you might be better off with them not risking it...however, if you have someone like Jose Reyes, Lance Johnson, Mookie Wilson, Lenny Dykstra, Trea Turner, Rickie Henderson, Tim Raines, etc type of elite base stealing; it's another story... getting to first is more important than not getting to first...however, getting into scoring position is more important than getting to first base...There's gotta be a margin where speed outweighs OBP, and conversely a margin whereas OBP is more important... cherry-picking a little bit but... Reyes averaged 66 stolen bases per 162 games from 2005-2008; his "162 game average" for those seasons results in: 116 runs scored; 68 RBI; 80 K's; Nimmo in his career so far has an almost identical Slugging Percentage while having a significantly higher OBP (and more strikeouts as well); his 162 game average: 89 runs scored; 57 RBI; 141 K's; yes, Reyes played on better offensive teams than Nimmo so his teammates are going to affect things; but still Reyes had a significantly higher runs per game and significantly less strikeouts...a guy like Reyes (or Rickey) in their prime, force pitchers and defense to make mistakes which IMO helps their teammates have better hitting opportunities... A guy like Eric Young Jr doesn't get on base or hit enough XBH's for his speed to be real useful... and a guy like Jay Payton that might have good speed but sucks at stealing bases, is better off staying put (Jay stole 14 bases as a Met, while getting caught 17 times)...by the way, I didn't realize how bad Payton was in terms of stolen bases or OBP until I just looked him up

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=114547 time=1670798045 user_id=119] =vtmet7 post_id=114545 time=1670796463 user_id=80] I guess that I don't understand the drama but... how much of this thread is actually about Nimmo?

I guess that I don't understand the drama but... how much of this thread is actually about Nimmo?

Since I was Maxwell Smart agent 86 at the Metsonline.net (aka MOFO). I feel like it is a given, which I must choose...

=Centerfield post_id=114450 time=1670633299 user_id=65] I can't imagine what Texas would force us to take in return if they took both these guys off our hands. Maybe Ted Cruz.

Not sure where this would be a good thread to include this but...this looks as close as I can find... According to the salary spread sheet at the following link, https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/payroll/metshttps://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/payroll/mets Mets only currently have 5 players signed for more than 2023/2024 seasons: Verlander (2025's option); Marte (2025 is his last year of his contract); Diaz (signed thru 2027 with an option after that); Nimmo (signed thru 2030); Lindor (signed thru 2031); So with all the media hysterics about the Mets and the salary cap; there is still plenty of room to sign guys like Alonso in the long run...Mets have less than $91 Mil committed after 2024...

in retrospect, I really don't what the purpose was of trading for him...Volgelbus made sense, Ruf not so much...especially since he wasn't a free agent after 2022... I read somewhere that the Mets are trying to package him with McCann to the Rangers... I would imagine that Mets would be eating salary but if we could unload both in the same deal, that opens up 2 roster spots

Nimmo didn't particularly square up any more balls last year than previously. His power numbers, his barrel numbers, his "good contact" stuff, were all pretty on-par. He sacrificed a few walks and a few strikeouts for a few more ground ball outs and singles. His weak contact was up. His GD% up. his LD% down. Pull numbers down. Again, he sacrificed walks and strikeouts for ground ball outs and singles, but he sacrificed more value than he gained. I guess you could wonder if he's just not as attuned to the zone as he was previously, but the higher swing% makes me thing it was on purpose. Prioritizing contact does seem to fit with some of the things Buck and Chavez said, but it was detrimental here, which jibes with what we know about batting. it will be interesting to see how those types of numbers change for left handed hitters in 2023...Don't know how many times that Nimmo was screwed by the shift, but lefties typically get screwed more than righties do...Volgelbus particularly hits into shifted outs a lot...

If you're Buck, do you strategize with him on getting his walks total back to where it was? Or leave him be? In other words, is Nimmo's decline in walks a problem or a one-year blip? I think Nimmo's walk obsession has been a byproduct of Sandy Alderson's directives in the organization...and with Buck/Chavez/Eppler influence last year, Nimmo focused a little more on: "if it's a good pitch to hit, pounce on it"...Which, IMO, as long as he's not chasing bad pitches is a good thing... I'm sure that most teams around the league know that Nimmo goes up there trying to draw a walk; and pitchers with good control are probably not going to walk him... There were some interesting splits for Nimmo (some good and some not so good): From July 29 until the end of the season, Nimmo hit: .298/.398/.455/.853; From Opening Day until May 27, Nimmo hit: .293/.386/.452/.838; In between (May 31 thru July 28), Nimmo hit: .237/.311/.390/.701 (appears that he was playing hurt since he missed May 28 thru May 30, and was a pinch runner on May 31); Home: .234/.321/.366/.688; Away: .309/.406/.492/.898; First pitch (swinging or getting HBP): .358/.374/.605/.803; Batter ahead in count: .272/.492/.473/.965; Even count: .310/.323/.456/.779; Pitcher ahead in count: .232/.263/.368/.631; by the way, Nimmo had 29 hits (and 2 HBP) on the first pitch of a Plate Appearance... of those 29 hits, he had 10 XBH: 4 Home Runs; 2 Triples; 4 Doubles.... that's a pretty good percentage of his Home Runs and Triples on the season... In other words, in 12.6 % of Nimmo's Plate Appearances; Nimmo had 25% of his Home Runs and 29% of his Triples;

=whippoorwill post_id=114066 time=1670342639 user_id=79] =vtmet7 post_id=114063 time=1670340275 user_id=80] don't see any Nimmo FA threads, so don't know where to comment on Nimmo's path... Now that Trea Turner signed that long term deal; there is a post in one of the Mets groups on Facebook, whereas it's suggested that the Mets should offer Nimmo a 6 year, $150 Mil contract...I realize that contracts are escalating and that Nimmo is a Boras guy; but IMO that is crazy high for Nimmo...

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I thought that he was going to be Nimmo's replacement..

"Quantana spells reliability...as in 29 starts and 165 innings in most of his seasons"... sounds like he gets the modern seal of Walt Terrell-ness

=MFS62 post_id=113791 time=1670096713 user_id=60] Buster Olney reporting the Rangers may also be interested in trading for Jim McCann to catch DeGrom. Even if the Mets would have to kick in part of his salary, it might be addition by subtraction. Any other Mets rumors worth noting? Later

don't see any Nimmo FA threads, so don't know where to comment on Nimmo's path... Now that Trea Turner signed that long term deal; there is a post in one of the Mets groups on Facebook, whereas it's suggested that the Mets should offer Nimmo a 6 year, $150 Mil contract...I realize that contracts are escalating and that Nimmo is a Boras guy; but IMO that is crazy high for Nimmo...

That is a lot to pay a guy that has averaged 7 wins per season in his last 5 seasons.

I realize that normally spitting on one's grave is considered disrespectful and/or hateful...but in Gaylord's case, would it be considered a sign of respect? He was the king of the spitball, right?

=MFS62 post_id=113608 time=1669844531 user_id=60] =vtmet7 post_id=113593 time=1669831090 user_id=80] the bigger story is likely the fact that Mauricio finally started playing a different position than shortstop recently. Something Mets fans have been seemingly waiting for since the Mets traded for Francisco Lindor and signed him long-term. Mauricio was at shortstop on Tuesday night, however, he played the previous three games at third base.

Mauricio hit a 3 Run Home Run and walked last night (game was available live on mlb.tv, watched his walk but missed the homer)...he also played third base in 3 consecutive games earlier this week... https://metsmerizedonline.com/ronny-mauricio-hits-three-run-homer/https://metsmerizedonline.com/ronny-mauricio-hits-three-run-homer/ [bLOCKQUOTE] ... the fourth home run of the season for Mauricio which ties him for second in the league. His 28 RBIs –in only 35 games– puts him 10 above the player ranking second in the league. The switch-hitting infielder is also the only player with double-digit doubles at 12 for the season. His slash line of .306/.353/.500 also has him leading the league with his .853 OPS and his eight stolen bases are in the top five.[/bLOCKQUOTE] [bLOCKQUOTE]... the bigger story is likely the fact that Mauricio finally started playing a different position than shortstop recently. Something Mets fans have been seemingly waiting for since the Mets traded for Francisco Lindor and signed him long-term. Mauricio was at shortstop on Tuesday night, however, he played the previous three games at third base. [/bLOCKQUOTE]

Edgy MD wrote: That's something. I thought the Mets were happy with Chavez as batting coach, not that moving to bench coach isn't sort of a promotion. I read somewhere that one reason was that they were afraid of losing Jeremy Barnes to another team if they didn't promote him to hitting coach; plus our GM has a history with Chavez so he's getting fast-tracked a bit with a potential to be manager or in the front office eventually...