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Personally, I'm glad Omar didn't make any deals. This team is too many players away from contending right now, and I just didn't want him to do any more damage.... As FK said, trading Sullivan, Reed, plus Berroa and Cancel for Reyes, Beltran & Delgado sometime in the next few weeks would be the best trade possible...

I didn't see that. If he was indeed gloating, that would take him down a few pegs in my eyes.

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":20sad8fv]="dgwphotography":20sad8fv]I have to say, I think Jeffrey handled everything very well yesterday, but what Lunchbucket said about him is still echoing in my head...[/quote:20sad8fv] What was that?[/quote:20sad8fv] Your Marty Noble quote. Frayed Knot Jul 29 2009 02:58 PM Eddie C's speculation on what set Omar on the road to anti-Runin-ism: When the press conference got delayed (as it always seems to be) SNY had some time to kill and spent part of it with Burkhardt interviewing Rubin. This was shown on the TVs in both the offices and clubhouse and apparently some thought they heard some gloating in his answers at having "gotten" Tony. Ergo that ticks Omar off and leads to the impromptu verbal caning. dgwphotography Jul 29 2009 03:00 PM I didn't see that. If he was indeed gloating, that would take him down a few pegs in my eyes. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 29 2009 03:05 PM Didn't see it, either. But, well, let's just say you can't add false modesty to his list of sins (following is from his rebuttal in yesterday's Snooze): ]I want to get something straight. Everything I wrote about Tony Bernazard - bombshell stories that appeared in the pages of the Daily News over the last week - is accurate. My reporting was solid, met the journalistic standards of sourcing and beyond and was untainted by any personal agenda on my part. The Mets fired Bernazard Monday, after conducting an investigation that presumably reflected the damning information contained in my stories. Frayed Knot Jul 29 2009 03:11 PM And Eddie admits to not having seen it either, but rather got that idea via some of those who had both seen it and liked Tony meaning that the perception of Rubin's attitude was filtered through those eyes & ears. G-Fafif Jul 29 2009 03:12 PM ="Frayed Knot"]Eddie C's speculation on what set Omar on the road to anti-Runin-ism: When the press conference got delayed (as it always seems to be) SNY had some time to kill and spent part of it with Burkhardt interviewing Rubin. This was shown on the TVs in both the offices and clubhouse and apparently some thought they heard some gloating in his answers at having "gotten" Tony. Ergo that ticks Omar off and leads to the impromptu verbal caning. Somehow I'm reminded of Oscar Madison hiring a jokewriter to come up with zingers to spring on Howard Cosell...and Felix tearing them up, rescuing them from the wastebasket and delivering them out of order. ]I wish some relative of yours would die and leave you some wax fruit! I'd like to see Evel Knievel jump over your Bermuda shorts! You know your Lautrec is too loose? bmfc1 Jul 29 2009 03:55 PM ="Frayed Knot":ugqsyia0]Eddie C's speculation on what set Omar on the road to anti-Runin-ism: When the press conference got delayed (as it always seems to be) SNY had some time to kill and spent part of it with Burkhardt interviewing Rubin. This was shown on the TVs in both the offices and clubhouse and apparently some thought they heard some gloating in his answers at having "gotten" Tony. Ergo that ticks Omar off and leads to the impromptu verbal caning.[/quote:ugqsyia0] Had to have been whispered to Eddie C. from within the organization in a lame attempt to cover Omar's tracks. Edgy DC Jul 29 2009 05:08 PM I'm going to guess no. bmfc1 Jul 29 2009 05:39 PM Coleman isn't an investigative reporter. He didn't come up with that on his own. Frayed Knot Jul 29 2009 05:46 PM ="bmfc1":331y6747]Coleman isn't an investigative reporter. He didn't come up with that on his own.[/quote:331y6747] Eddie may not be a turn over every rock kind of reporter but he is in the locker room talking to people on a regular basis and at least implied (both in writing and in the radio chat I heard) that it was his speculation based on what some said that that was what set Omar off. Plus if mgmt is the one feeding him that angle I don't see how they think that makes them look any better. bmfc1 Jul 29 2009 05:48 PM Fair enough FK--you heard it, I didn't. I was just suggesting that it's possible that someone in the Mets front office was still trying to cover Omar's tracks. After the other day, anything is possible. Kong76 Jul 29 2009 06:21 PM This whole saga just needs to go away already. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 29 2009 07:17 PM ="G-Fafif":ti9im9j6][ Somehow I'm reminded of Oscar Madison hiring a jokewriter to come up with zingers to spring on Howard Cosell...and Felix tearing them up, rescuing them from the wastebasket and delivering them out of order. [/quote:ti9im9j6] Omar should have called Rubin an inane drone. Rockin' Doc Jul 29 2009 07:37 PM Omar should have called Rubin an assclown. Fman99 Jul 29 2009 07:48 PM Punch -> neck Kick -> **** metirish Jul 30 2009 12:14 PM referring to himself in the third person Minaya apologized today NY Mets general manager Omar Minaya apologizes for causing 'distraction' by criticizing reporter by Brian Costa/The Star-Ledger Thursday July 30, 2009, 11:26 AM ] NEW YORK -- Mets general manager Omar Minaya apologized again Thursday for his conduct during Monday's press conference to announce the firing of Tony Bernazard, during which he got into a heated exchange with a reporter. Minaya said he met with New York Daily News reporter Adam Rubin to apologize in person Wednesday. "You guys know me," Minaya said. "That's just not the way Omar Minaya is, that's not what I stand for, but the bottom line is I made a mistake. The bottom line is that you make a mistake, and I admit to making a mistake in bringing up the things that I did." Sitting in the Mets' dugout before Thursday's doubleheader against the Rockies at Citi Field, Minaya said the fallout from Monday has been a distraction as Friday's non-waiver trade deadline approaches. But he said it hasn't kept him from being active in trade talks. "I've been talking to teams, guys," Minaya said. "I turned down a couple of trades yesterday. I mean, I talked to some teams and believe it or not we had some pretty big names that were presented. That being said, if you talk to general managers around the league, I've been calling around. We have some ideas."

I kept waiting for his son to fly off in that scene... That said, I was pleasantly surprised with the last Rocky movie - I just felt it jumped around a little too much....

I have to say, I think Jeffrey handled everything very well yesterday, but what Lunchbucket said about him is still echoing in my head...

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Tonight's lineup, courtesy of a pinch-blogger at the Snooze... Rubin's serving a suspe-- I mean, has the day off. I will be extremely displeased if it's not only a day off...

="SteveJRogers":z2ocfwgg]BTW, case in point of water cooler conversation, the fact that my co-workers think that this was worse than George Steinbrenner having a fight in an elevator with the marshmellow salesmen during the 1981 World Series.[/quote:z2ocfwgg] That and $2.25 will get you a ride on the subway. This is probably ancient history to your co-workers, and depending on their age, it might have happened before some of them were born... SteveJRogers Jul 25 2009 06:03 PM ="dgwphotography":2ddliwek]="SteveJRogers":2ddliwek]BTW, case in point of water cooler conversation, the fact that my co-workers think that this was worse than George Steinbrenner having a fight in an elevator with the marshmellow salesmen during the 1981 World Series.[/quote:2ddliwek] That and $2.25 will get you a ride on the subway. This is probably ancient history to your co-workers, and depending on their age, it might have happened before some of them were born...[/quote:2ddliwek] They also (even the non-Yankee or non-baseball fans) think that the Mets collapse in 2007 was worse than the Yankees losing a playoff series after being up 3-0. Just to show where they are coming from, it doesn't have anything to do with remembering facts of a long ago incident. Kong76 Jul 25 2009 06:08 PM dgw: This is probably ancient history to your co-workers, and depending on their age, it might have happened before some of them were born <<< Plus, they probably pick on him (like some of us) because he's a closet Yankee fan in Mets' clothing. Nymr83 Jul 25 2009 06:30 PM ]They also (even the non-Yankee or non-baseball fans) think that the Mets collapse in 2007 was worse than the Yankees losing a playoff series after being up 3-0. you'd have to start the year 81-0 and lose to a team that started 0-81 in a one game playoff for the division in order to equal that yankee playoff collapse during the regular season. SteveJRogers Jul 25 2009 06:58 PM ="Nymr83"]]They also (even the non-Yankee or non-baseball fans) think that the Mets collapse in 2007 was worse than the Yankees losing a playoff series after being up 3-0. you'd have to start the year 81-0 and lose to a team that started 0-81 in a one game playoff for the division in order to equal that yankee playoff collapse during the regular season. Their point though is valid, it was still a POSTSEASON series. The Yankees still got to the postseason, and even won a series, the Mets choked away a chance to be in, not just the postseason, but a one game playoff as well (so in a sense it was even worse than the 1978 Red Sox, 1951 Dodgers or any other team that got caught and a playoff game/series was necessitated. So yeah I actually do agree that the Met collapse was worse, but that is part of the point, what has been going on with this franchise has been just another opportunity after another for the organization to be considered an absolute utter disgrace. Hell, the Yankees did make it back to the postseason the following year, and three more years after that, and probably will make it again this year. That's more to the point where the Mets are seen as a joke in the eyes of many. Nymr83 Jul 25 2009 07:30 PM ]The Yankees still got to the postseason, and even won a series, the Mets choked away a chance to be in, not just the postseason, but a one game playoff as well (so in a sense it was even worse than the 1978 Red Sox, 1951 Dodgers or any other team that got caught and a playoff game/series was necessitated. So yeah I actually do agree that the Met collapse was worse, i don't agree. the Yanks had a better year (because they made a postseaon and won the frst round), but their collapse was still worse being that it took place in the postseason Kong76 Jul 25 2009 07:42 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 25 2009 07:48 PM *post removed, for duh-ness* SteveJRogers Jul 25 2009 07:47 PM No, its worse because it continues to perpetuate the notion that the Mets are losers and a pathetic organization. Especially in light of what happened last year, and this current campaign. Again, the Yankees were back in the postseason in 2005-2007 and most likely will be in it again this season. Historically the Yankees losing the 2004 ALCS is a bump in the road, the 7 up with 17 to play 2007 Mets is yet another reason to say how the Met organization is a disgrace to professional sports. Frayed Knot Jul 25 2009 07:53 PM ][Fair enough, but then again perhaps you don't deal with constant barrages of "What a fucking disgrace of an organization you root for" type of comments by either MFY fan or non baseball fan co-workers. It wouldn't matter because I don't wrap my self-esteem up in the current status of a baseball team to the point where I react to taunting from those who do by demanding that some assistant be fired even though he may or may not be part of the problem. Besides, it wasn't a Yanqui fan that brought up the "disgrace" line it was y ... oh wait, nevermind. [walked into that one] Fman99 Jul 25 2009 08:23 PM ="SteveJRogers":1scxpm4q]="dgwphotography":1scxpm4q]="SteveJRogers":1scxpm4q]BTW, case in point of water cooler conversation, the fact that my co-workers think that this was worse than George Steinbrenner having a fight in an elevator with the marshmellow salesmen during the 1981 World Series.[/quote:1scxpm4q] That and $2.25 will get you a ride on the subway. This is probably ancient history to your co-workers, and depending on their age, it might have happened before some of them were born...[/quote:1scxpm4q] They also (even the non-Yankee or non-baseball fans) think that the Mets collapse in 2007 was worse than the Yankees losing a playoff series after being up 3-0. Just to show where they are coming from, it doesn't have anything to do with remembering facts of a long ago incident.[/quote:1scxpm4q] I think you're problem is that you give a flying fuck what a Yankee fan thinks. Like they're people. Nymr83 Jul 25 2009 08:49 PM ] by demanding that some assistant be fired even though he may or may not be part of the problem i want him fired for trying to fight ballplayers, nothing else. is he "part of the [alleged] problem" in talent development? i don't know or care as long he's challenging our players to fights. SteveJRogers Jul 25 2009 08:57 PM ="Fman99":fvuk1kki]="SteveJRogers":fvuk1kki]="dgwphotography":fvuk1kki]="SteveJRogers":fvuk1kki]BTW, case in point of water cooler conversation, the fact that my co-workers think that this was worse than George Steinbrenner having a fight in an elevator with the marshmellow salesmen during the 1981 World Series.[/quote:fvuk1kki] That and $2.25 will get you a ride on the subway. This is probably ancient history to your co-workers, and depending on their age, it might have happened before some of them were born...[/quote:fvuk1kki] They also (even the non-Yankee or non-baseball fans) think that the Mets collapse in 2007 was worse than the Yankees losing a playoff series after being up 3-0. Just to show where they are coming from, it doesn't have anything to do with remembering facts of a long ago incident.[/quote:fvuk1kki] I think you're problem is that you give a flying fuck what a Yankee fan thinks. Like they're people.[/quote:fvuk1kki] Then we shouldn't comment on how certain things are counter to the Yankees carefully crafted "image" of being the classiest organization in the game or whatever the fuck they are hyping themselves as. Because clearly if Met fans shouldn't give a flying fuck about how the Mets are perceived by others, then why should we give a flying fuck about how the "Yankee Way" is a crock of shit? Nymr83 Jul 25 2009 09:43 PM Don't tell us what its ok to comment on. SteveJRogers Jul 25 2009 09:59 PM ="Nymr83":20535dbm]Don't tell us what its ok to comment on.[/quote:20535dbm] It relates to how the Mets are perceived as an organization by others. But if you are fine rooting for an franchise that is subject to slings and arrows on a seemingly endless basis and counter all those comments with "who gives a fucking rat's ass what the fuck you fuckers think" it really is tough to go the other way on subjects that have to do with other organizations. In other words, why should THEY, or anyone give a fucking rat's ass what the fuck any fucker says? SteveJRogers Jul 25 2009 10:05 PM Look, this was a black eye for the organization that has way too much of them in recent years, that is the point I'm trying to make. Yes more is made because the team has been playing horribly, but the point I'm trying to make is that shit like this shouldn't be passed over by Met fans as "if we were winning, no one in the media, internet, sports radio, etc. would give a shit." Its because it is a black eye for the organization, and fodder for more shit from everyone from bloggers to late night comedians that make it a big deal and one that should be addressed and not swept away. Again, even if the Mets were leading the division by 20 games at this point. Frayed Knot Jul 26 2009 08:50 AM ]Then we shouldn't comment on how certain things are counter to the Yankees carefully crafted "image" of being the classiest organization in the game or whatever the fuck they are hyping themselves as. No, we can comment on it all we want. The mistake, from the Yanqui viewpoint, would be for them to change how they do things solely based on our reaction. For the same reason, the Mets should decide what to do with Bernazard based on his performance and conduct rather than out of some silly notion that it's going to make MFY fans stop saying 'bad things 'bout the Mets'. And those Met fans who want to make Bernazard the fall-guy whether he deserves it or not are simply playing into the trap of doing things for pr reasons rather than solving the problem itself. Edgy DC Jul 27 2009 06:56 AM ="SteveJRogers":2ae45851]They also (even the non-Yankee or non-baseball fans) think that the Mets collapse in 2007 was worse than the Yankees losing a playoff series after being up 3-0. Just to show where they are coming from, it doesn't have anything to do with remembering facts of a long ago incident.[/quote:2ae45851] ="SteveJRogers":2ae45851]Their point though is valid, it was still a POSTSEASON series. ...So yeah I actually do agree that the Met collapse was worse... .[/quote:2ae45851] Pick a side, my son. SteveJRogers Jul 27 2009 11:49 AM ="Edgy DC":2etn8uzp]="SteveJRogers":2etn8uzp]They also (even the non-Yankee or non-baseball fans) think that the Mets collapse in 2007 was worse than the Yankees losing a playoff series after being up 3-0. Just to show where they are coming from, it doesn't have anything to do with remembering facts of a long ago incident.[/quote:2etn8uzp] ="SteveJRogers":2etn8uzp]Their point though is valid, it was still a POSTSEASON series. ...So yeah I actually do agree that the Met collapse was worse... .[/quote:2etn8uzp] Pick a side, my son.[/quote:2etn8uzp] The hell is your point Edge? You have to be a Yanqui fan to consider the Met collapse in 2007 worse than the Yankees blowing the 2004 ALCS? Edgy DC Jul 27 2009 11:58 AM The hell is my point? Excuse me? My point is obvious. You seem to consider their perspective self-evidently flawed in one post, and agreeable later. SteveJRogers Jul 27 2009 12:11 PM ="Edgy DC":2xyqenpp]The hell is my point? Excuse me? My point is obvious. You seem to consider their perspective self-evidently flawed in one post, and agreeable later.[/quote:2xyqenpp] Not really, I showed it as a recent example compared to dgw suggesting that they were not students of history (by saying Tony B's minors incident was worse than Steinbrenner's elevator fight) Edgy DC Jul 27 2009 12:53 PM My head hurts. metsguyinmichigan Jul 27 2009 12:56 PM Mets shame: -- Idiot front office type takes off shirt to yell at 20-something minor leaguers. -- Bad patch on sleeve -- Occasional lapses in fielding. Yankee shame: -- Best player outed for using steroids -- Best pitcher outed for using steroids -- Best reliever has pool that kills people -- Michael Kay Tell me again which organization is a disgrace? Valadius Jul 27 2009 03:42 PM Don't forget the incomparably annoying John Sterling. PiggiesTomatoes Jul 27 2009 08:15 PM ="Valadius":1xy2oval]Don't forget the incomparably annoying John Sterling.[/quote:1xy2oval] ...and Georgie girl. I wouldn't take money to listen or her and Sterling. MFS62 Jul 27 2009 10:00 PM ="metsguyinmichigan":39c9vxup] Yankee shame: -- Best player outed for using steroids -- Best pitcher outed for using steroids -- Best reliever has pool that kills people -- Michael Kay Tell me again which organization is a disgrace?[/quote:39c9vxup] You forgot : -- Being the next to last Major League team to have a Black player, even though they played in the city that had the first one. Later LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 27 2009 10:05 PM ="MFS62"]="metsguyinmichigan"] Yankee shame: -- Best player outed for using steroids -- Best pitcher outed for using steroids -- Best reliever has pool that kills people -- Michael Kay Tell me again which organization is a disgrace? You forgot : -- Being the next to last Major League team to have a Black player, even though they played in the city that had the first one. Later Ahem. (I think that was Boston, with Pumpsie Green.) G-Fafif Jul 27 2009 10:09 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 27 2009 10:10 PM Double post. G-Fafif Jul 27 2009 10:09 PM ](I think that was Boston, with Pumpsie Green.) He said "next to last," but Phillies and Tigers came after MFYs, then Red Sox. Old news, I'd have to say. Plenty to bash MFYs on in this century. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 27 2009 11:08 PM Beer: not terribly helpful for reading comprehension. Ashie62 Jul 28 2009 08:11 AM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":3npdogpk]Beer: not terribly helpful for reading comprehension.[/quote:3npdogpk] Or Bernazards emotions Edgy DC Aug 02 2009 01:55 PM Daily News (but not Adam Rubin) digging up a lot more PLT stories about Bernazard. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2009/08/02/2009-08-02_tony_bern_out.html?page=0 Rockin' Doc Aug 02 2009 03:11 PM Hard to feel much sympathy for Bernazard the more stories you read of his vitriolic behavior toward players and staff of the Mets system. The more I read of his tirades, the more negatively Bernazard's tenure reflects upon Minaya and the Wilpons for allowing such an embarrassment to remain in their employ for as long as they did. Benjamin Grimm Aug 04 2009 07:04 AM Huh! Edgy DC Aug 04 2009 07:08 AM Oh, you missed some shee-it. Ashie62 Aug 04 2009 12:58 PM A little league first fight in Princeton, NJ? Darling the Eli must love that one

I just finished watching this movie, and the visuals were fantastic, the story compelling (I didn't read the graphic novel), and the cast mainly top notch. I have to agree with Vic regarding Nixon's make up - That had to be done on purpose, because Rick Baker was doing better make up 25 years ago...

metirish wrote: Someone needs to save Minaya from himself , sounding very desperate right now in the booth. Listening to Omar is going to make my head explode...

hustle - Pete Rose inside - Bob Gibson square - Pete LaCock macho - Dick Tidrow lumber - Greg Luzinski mustache - Al Hrabosky

="Benjamin Grimm"]He "came out" as a Yankee fan in the Daily News a couple of weeks ago. I was sure he was a Mets fan. At least, Ray Barrone was. Not a surprise. There was an episode that featured a few of the 69 Mets, and had Ray and his brother singing Meet The Mets They got the words wrong...

Does this team employ the three stooges for doctors? It's not just the number of injuries, it's how so many of them have been misdiagnosed and mistreated...

="Edgy DC":vxf4enq0]The description --- "moved up and dug it out of the dirt" --- seemed a pretty accurate description of what happened. "Dug out of the dirt" is frequently used when a player fields a low throw or pitch with his glove against the ground.[/quote:vxf4enq0] That's what I was thinking.. Just going out of his way to make a dig at Fox. At least he made a dig at MSNBC, too... Farmer Ted Jul 16 2009 02:40 PM Total candy arm. If he was Costanza, they'd call him a Mary. I don't know what's worse, his throw or bowling prowess. Should stick to hoops. Edgy DC Jul 16 2009 02:49 PM ="dgwphotography":1x4giyar]="Edgy DC":1x4giyar]The description --- "moved up and dug it out of the dirt" --- seemed a pretty accurate description of what happened. "Dug out of the dirt" is frequently used when a player fields a low throw or pitch with his glove against the ground.[/quote:1x4giyar] That's what I was thinking.. Just going out of his way to make a dig at Fox. At least he made a dig at MSNBC, too...[/quote:1x4giyar] No, they were very different. One was an outright mis-statement of facts. The other was clear satire. He essentially equated what FOX did --- which was nothing, going by what I saw --- with what he pretended fake MSNBC did. So even his joke about MSNBC was itself a dig at FOX. G-Fafif Jul 16 2009 02:55 PM I can see cheering spitefully some extra-inning game when Yadier Molina is knocked out of the game and La Russa has no backup catchers so Pujols volunteers to step in behind the plate based on his experience catching Obama. And I can see Beltran being tagged about by Albert in the top of the 16th on what he thought was going to be a Wild Pitch but it bounced back off that brick wall at Busch and the Cardinal fans, wearing red, cheer in their characteristically supportive way. Beltran, of course, forgot to slide. Then Pujols hits a home run off Sean Green to end it. G-Fafif Jul 16 2009 02:57 PM ="Edgy DC":35fuifho]No, they were very different. One was an outright mis-statement of facts. The other was clear satire. He essentially equated what FOX did --- which was nothing, going by what I saw --- with what he pretended fake MSNBC did. So even his joke about MSNBC was itself a dig at FOX.[/quote:35fuifho] Would your life really be that much better without Jon Stewart? Nymr83 Jul 16 2009 02:58 PM isnt Ray Romano one of ours too? Edgy DC Jul 16 2009 03:02 PM ]Would your life really be that much better without Jon Stewart? I think I'm calling it pretty fairly. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 16 2009 03:07 PM ="Nymr83":dius69g1]isnt Ray Romano one of ours too?[/quote:dius69g1] Um... nope. (Warning, the below is kind of galling.) http://www.tmz.com/2008/06/13/ray-romano-everybody-hates-boston/ Benjamin Grimm Jul 16 2009 03:13 PM He "came out" as a Yankee fan in the Daily News a couple of weeks ago. I was sure he was a Mets fan. At least, Ray Barrone was. dgwphotography Jul 16 2009 05:52 PM ="Benjamin Grimm"]He "came out" as a Yankee fan in the Daily News a couple of weeks ago. I was sure he was a Mets fan. At least, Ray Barrone was. Not a surprise. There was an episode that featured a few of the 69 Mets, and had Ray and his brother singing Meet The Mets They got the words wrong... LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 16 2009 06:33 PM ="dgwphotography"]="Benjamin Grimm"]He "came out" as a Yankee fan in the Daily News a couple of weeks ago. I was sure he was a Mets fan. At least, Ray Barrone was. Not a surprise. There was an episode that featured a few of the 69 Mets, and had Ray and his brother singing Meet The Mets They got the words wrong... Ever since I found out, I can't watch ELR. It feels just the tiniest bit like blackface. Fman99 Jul 24 2009 06:24 AM Jim Brewer, former SNL cast member and generally funny/obnoxious comic, on life as a Mets fan. ]They suck. It�s like being in love with an alcoholic. It�s like, you constantly defend her, and people are like, �Dude, your alcoholic friend is a mess,� and you�re like, �Nah, you don�t know her like I do.�

="G-Fafif":19bf1wye]Great picture, no surprise, considering the lensman.[/quote:19bf1wye] This takes me back to the writing in those 1970's yearbooks.... ="G-Fafif":19bf1wye]Park and setting still need to be surrounded by a city block for full effect. Otherwise it still smacks of Arlington Comes to Flushing rather than homage to St. Ebbets.[/quote:19bf1wye] This is an excellent point - I oddly felt more in place when standing line for the the Mr. Met dash by the chop shops... G-Fafif Jul 16 2009 12:50 PM I think CF looks best when viewed from 126th St, though that's not really the ballpark. The admin building looks like a civic institution there, like a school or post office from the 1930s. Fits into a neighborhood even if the neighborhood isn't there. I like the back end of it, supporting the Willie Mays Bridge and the Pepsi Porch, as viewed from the Promenade as well. A bit of an OP@CY warehouse feel. Just a bit.

I'd have to say Tim Robbins - he does seem to know his stuff... Pearl Bailey just has to be mentioned in this thread...

it doesn't help that SNY has been showing a blank screen for the last half hour...

="Edgy DC":1yldf61i]Glenn Close, baby.[/quote:1yldf61i] Glenn Close, the Yankee bandwagon joiner? Fman99 Jul 15 2009 02:57 PM ="Edgy DC":2o053drn]This isn't a wank contest. But sure, you give your body to Stewart and I'lll give mine to Glenn. I'll be in Scotland before ye'.[/quote:2o053drn] Edgy, let's quit the bullshitting. We're on the internet. This whole place is a wank contest. You go to Scotland. I change my vote to Julia, I'll get myself a Scott paper tissue. G-Fafif Jul 15 2009 02:58 PM Fman is literally in midseason form. Benjamin Grimm Jul 15 2009 02:59 PM For Fman, it's all about the wank. He's perpetually 14 years old. Anyway, it seems that Ray Romano may not be not one of us after all. In a Q&A piece in the Daily News a week or so ago, he said he grew up as a Yankee fan in a Yankee household, even though he lived in Queens. Perhaps he made the switch to the Mets at some point, but you wouldn't know it from that article. Benjamin Grimm Jul 15 2009 02:59 PM Hey, wait! I thought I was in the Met-Loving Big Shot thread!

="G-Fafif":260iyfrt] You get one of these approximately every fifty years, Mets. Don't blow it.[/quote:260iyfrt] If a Wilpon still owns the team, they probably will. metirish Jul 15 2009 01:30 PM Gary Carter will be available , he'll even use his own car to drive around the warning track . seawolf17 Jul 15 2009 01:36 PM Fuck, I didn't even think of that. You know the Wilpons will fucking screw it up and celebrate the fucking Dodgers. DAMMIT, Fred, I'm mad at you already and this hasn't even happened. Edgy DC Jul 15 2009 01:39 PM Never stopped anybody before. Gwreck Jul 16 2009 06:39 AM ="Frayed Knot":2i7vdtlm]Parks older than Citi but yet to host an ASG: - Chase Field Phoenix (1998) - though sched for 2011 - GAB Cincinnati (2003) - PETCO SD (2004) - CBP Philly (2004) - Nationals Park Wash (2008)[/quote:2i7vdtlm] Cincy had it in '88, SD in '92 and Philly in '96 (?) so they're all at the back of the line anyway. One would think that the Nationals would be the obvious choice for 2015 but I guess the Marlins' new stadium might be chosen instead. One problem is that with fewer AL teams, there are also fewer left with new parks that haven't had the game yet. There's Anaheim in 2010 and KC in 2012 (both parks were heavily renovated) and then presumably Minnesota in 2014. In '06 and '07 the ASG was held in NL parks; they could presumably do another repeat sometime soon to get more of the newer NL parks in on the action. Benjamin Grimm Jul 16 2009 06:46 AM They might as well cancel the All-Star game and give the AL team permanent home field advantage in the World Series. metsguyinmichigan Jul 16 2009 07:27 AM I think MLB -- hell, probably FOX, too -- has a very heavy hand in the goings-on at the All-Star Game as opposed to letting the host team do that planning and screw it up. Gwreck Jul 16 2009 10:08 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":4umwzr82]They might as well cancel the All-Star game and give the AL team permanent home field advantage in the World Series.[/quote:4umwzr82] Yawn. Frayed Knot Jul 16 2009 10:39 AM The odd thing about this stretch of AL ASG "dominance" is that all the recent games have been by one run (4 straight including 1 xtra inn and 5 of 7) even though this is the era where the AL has dominated IL play. But if you go back to the beginning of their run they were winning ASG big during the time where the NL was getting the better of the IL series. Nymr83 Jul 16 2009 02:31 PM ]Will the Mets put one and one together and bring out Tom Terrific, who will be 68 that summer, in a big way? Or will it become another platform for the Mets and MLB to celebrate the legacy of Jackie Robinson? i think we both know the answer to that where Wilpon is involved.

I'm glad I'm not the only one around here who doesn't think that Jon Stewart is all that.

="metsguyinmichigan":1hjbvc6x]="dgwphotography":1hjbvc6x]I rooted for the Mets to lose once, for purely selfish reasons... I still feel dirty over it....[/quote:1hjbvc6x] Did you have tickets to a Game 6 or 7?[/quote:1hjbvc6x] I had tickets for September 18, 1986. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2009 11:34 AM ="Gwreck":1ysfshk9]This isn't basketball (or even football) where a top draft pick makes an immediate impact on your team.[/quote:1ysfshk9] Actively rooting for the team to lose is one thing. Wishing after the fact that they'd done a little poorer, especially in a salary-cap league where building through the draft is essential, is quite another. A meaningless, ugly Week 17 win in 2007 cost my Jets 3-4 draft slots-- slots in which stud QB Matt Ryan, explosive RB Darren McFadden, and promising DT Glenn Dorsey were taken (two were need areas for the Jets heading into the season). Baseball-wise, it's different, of course. Edgy DC Jul 15 2009 11:37 AM They ought to reverse the draft order and kill this debate once and for all. Make it winner's ball. Vic Sage Jul 15 2009 02:29 PM never in baseball. but i find it rather easy to root against the Jets and Knicks, as they play out yet another meaningless season, on the off chance they can get lucky in the draft. G-Fafif Jul 15 2009 02:35 PM I rooted for Padres emergency closer Jesse Orosco to retire transient Mets second baseman Roberto Alomar with the game literally on the line in 2003 because Orosco deserved one more save at Shea and Alomar had earned my disgust for more than a year. It being 2003, I somehow knew, even though it was early in the season, it wasn't going to be the one game that cost us a playoff spot. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2009 02:35 PM ="Vic Sage":3i7189te]never in baseball. but i find it rather easy to root against the Jets and Knicks, as they play out yet another meaningless season, on the off chance they can get lucky in the draft.[/quote:3i7189te] Matt Ryan/Darren McFadden could've been ours. OURS!

I think they'll go 50-25 the rest of the way, and it won't be enough for the division, because the Phillies are due to get hot, too.

I rooted for the Mets to lose once, for purely selfish reasons... I still feel dirty over it....

="metirish":37oc76h5]="dgwphotography":37oc76h5]We made the shake shack our first stop after getting off the subway on Sunday... We got a table and walked right up and placed an order with no line at all....[/quote:37oc76h5] not told here is the dgwp was carrying a gun.[/quote:37oc76h5] LOL - I just a pretty big lens... Not my fault if they mistook it for a weapon... The view from the 7... bmfc1 Jul 14 2009 09:38 AM http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-spparks1412966058jul13,0,6093781.story Some changes will be made to CF. What gets me that management had to "hear" from the fans before realizing that we want Mets history to be incorporated into a Mets ballpark. A smarter management would have built a team HOF right away instead of as an afterthought. A smarter management would have kept a panel or two from the Shea OF fence in place (if it didn't impede traffic) as both an historical marker and a meeting place. metsguyinmichigan Jul 14 2009 10:28 AM ="dgwphotography":72k07gfl]="metirish":72k07gfl]="dgwphotography":72k07gfl]We made the shake shack our first stop after getting off the subway on Sunday... We got a table and walked right up and placed an order with no line at all....[/quote:72k07gfl] not told here is the dgwp was carrying a gun.[/quote:72k07gfl] LOL - I just a pretty big lens... Not my fault if they mistook it for a weapon... The view from the 7... [/quote:72k07gfl] Beautiful photo! It really is a nice-looking ballpark. Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2009 10:59 AM ="metsguyinmichigan":123rtddu] Beautiful photo! [/quote:123rtddu] I agree! ="metsguyinmichigan":123rtddu] It really is a nice-looking ballpark.[/quote:123rtddu] I agree with that, too. I only wish it was closer to Manhattan. metirish Jul 14 2009 11:01 AM Why closer to Manhattan when you live closer to Philly? the image is very beautiful , great capture. Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2009 11:04 AM I wasn't thinking of my own convenience. I just think the stadium would be better located closer to Manhattan so they'd be able to get more of the after-work crowd. Vic Sage Jul 14 2009 11:56 AM its easy to get there after work. It's a 35 minute ride on the 7 train, or less on the LIRR. The problem is driving during rush hour, but that would be the problem even if you drove to the east side from the west side. G-Fafif Jul 14 2009 12:20 PM Great picture, no surprise, considering the lensman. Park and setting still need to be surrounded by a city block for full effect. Otherwise it still smacks of Arlington Comes to Flushing rather than homage to St. Ebbets. Farmer Ted Jul 15 2009 03:28 PM Took in the game on Sunday. First time to Citi. Had recent trips to PNC and Safeco so I was anxious to do a some comparison shopping. Overall a definite A. I got there early so I was literally the first person to the Shake Shack. Yum. Only an hour before game time and the place was mobbed. So here are my drawbacks: 1. Food court. Serious congestion here before and during the game. Put a destination location at the stadium and everyone flocks to it. I say tear down some of the junk yards across the street, install a foot bridge, and put some more fun stuff over there to ease the food mess. 2. Concourse width not enough. Then again, maybe the concourse is wide enough but you lose 10 feet of space with the cashier ropes that jut out from the food counters. Who thought of this traffic nightmare? 3. Home Run apple. I'll give a pass to the apple not coming up for Tatis' home run. I was turned away trying to get to the OLD apple since there was a private reception on that level. Fuckers. I was impressed with the staff at the game. Tons of staff in an array of colored shirts. Lady behind me got up in between innings and the schmuck behind her spilled beer on her seat. Dude was sloshed and subsequently tossed by security for being "that guy". No fewer than five staff showed up including one supervisor to wash down and scrub around her seat. NEVER saw that at Shea or any other stadium. I had the usher nazi in my section. No ticket, get out. Ninth inning and want to sneak down for a closer look? Tough shit. The place looked great. Still a bit sad about the vacant parking lot next to it. Surprised to see the brackets holding up piping in the stadium were rusting. Yeah, rusting. Speaking of Rust. No homage to Rusty Staub? Boog Powell and Greg Luzinski have their food pits. Until the area around the stadium is cleaned up, Safeco and PNC still get a slight edge for convenience and accessibility. I was happy that the place turned out to be a top flight facility. Ashie62 Jul 15 2009 08:25 PM ="metirish":fl693ser]Why closer to Manhattan when you live closer to Philly? the image is very beautiful , great capture.[/quote:fl693ser] Wish it was closer to Newark...sorry..train goes there dgwphotography Jul 16 2009 11:45 AM ="G-Fafif":19bf1wye]Great picture, no surprise, considering the lensman.[/quote:19bf1wye] This takes me back to the writing in those 1970's yearbooks.... ="G-Fafif":19bf1wye]Park and setting still need to be surrounded by a city block for full effect. Otherwise it still smacks of Arlington Comes to Flushing rather than homage to St. Ebbets.[/quote:19bf1wye] This is an excellent point - I oddly felt more in place when standing line for the the Mr. Met dash by the chop shops... G-Fafif Jul 16 2009 12:50 PM I think CF looks best when viewed from 126th St, though that's not really the ballpark. The admin building looks like a civic institution there, like a school or post office from the 1930s. Fits into a neighborhood even if the neighborhood isn't there. I like the back end of it, supporting the Willie Mays Bridge and the Pepsi Porch, as viewed from the Promenade as well. A bit of an OP@CY warehouse feel. Just a bit.