Edgy MD

You know, it strikes me that it's a pretty damn good time for the Mets to try a few stupid experiments with Shea. Like the barcalounger section. If they fail, so what, they die with the stadium. If they flourish, they've added something unique, but tested, to adapt to the new place.

Yeah, that's Jack. What's the white arrow about?

seawolf17 wrote: metsmarathon wrote: that #1146 guy sure was fast... Yeah, really! He appears to beating out that fifteen-year-old girl and that old guy! (insert comedic smilie emoticon here) Don't forget the Guatemalan with heart problems.

cooby wrote: I love how people dressed up to do everything back then, I just love it... And who knew Jack Lord was a Met fan?

I don't think of this as a career year for Valentin. From 2000-2003, he showed more power with less OBP, but did it playing fulltime did it at shortstop.

If you're going to do tribute pages to buildings, do one for the Mets Motel on Queens Boulevard in Woodside.

Usual, perhaps.

I've got no problem with that usage, but knock yourself out.

Unless, you know, the Mets really suck.

MFS62 wrote: I only went to one Jets game, and I seem to recall the baseball V-configuration. I thought the reason they installed the rolling seats was because they couln't fit a football field in Shea while in the V configuration. Later They could, but it made for less than ideal eyelines. In this 1980s shot, it seems they were leaving the field boxes in place, but then building new straight sections extending out into what would be left and right fields.

MFS62 wrote: Edgy DC wrote: I only went to one Jets game, and I seem to recall the baseball V-configuration. I thought the reason they installed the rolling seats was because they couln't fit a football field in Shea while in the V configuration. Later I'm sure they could, but it just makes for far less ideal eyelines.

Soup, that b/w shot sure seems to have the temporary bleachers you're referring to. By the eighties, those wheels weren't moving anymore, right? I only went to one Jets game, and I seem to recall the baseball V-configuration. I agree that the rolling field seats were an impressive innovation.

Look at the clergy hogging all the best seats. And somehow Betty White got in there. The excavation was just about replacing a lousy poorly-draining infield. Props to them for making improvements --- at least at the field level --- while negotiating for a new place.

Renovating the field: Great shot of the horsehoe skeleton under contruciton:

Somebody's got a case of the Thursdays.

Post-season counts. Though part of me thinks we shold rate post-season performance seperately, but we never have. but showed up every day and was very consistent. These are nearly the same trait.

Well, that explains his name, anyhow.

Will the Mets new stadium use building materials as handsome as those battleship-gray prefab corrugated walls behind KC and 'Shot? I think not.

I added the 10.The thing that keeps all of us from getting our last option in there is the same. You need to hit that "Add option" button after typing your final option into the field.Learn. Poll.

Don't screw with Aaron's delivery! The father of New York Mets reliever and Logansport native Aaron Heilman, Joe Heilman, has advice for young pitchers everywhere. "The one key thing with his development was simply we let him progress at his own rate," Joe Heilman said. "We put him before the competition. We went out and played in some tournaments and played out of state and those sorts of things. But we let Aaron progress at his own rate. He had his style of pitching. A couple times I had to talk to a few coaches and say, 'Hey, leave him alone. You're not going to change his motion. You're not going to do this or do that just because you want a curveball.' Never to this day has he thrown a curveball the way you or I would throw a curveball by snapping our wrist and elbows - putting a lot of strain and pressure. He uses the movement on the ball with the pressure on his fingers on the ball." Hard work is also a key. "We let him see that if he did want to compete, if he wanted to play at a higher level, he was going to have to work a little bit more, he was going to work a little bit harder," Joe said. "Dad was going to have to rent a few more gyms so we could get in and practice during the winter time. I think he played three sports, four sports until about eighth grade. He gave everything else up and really concentrated on baseball." Joe added that while no overhand throw is natural, Aaron's three-quarters motion feels the most comfortable to him. He also said Aaron has never had an arm injury nor does he need his arm iced down after he pitches. As for when boys should start throwing breaking balls, Joe says "when they're adults. You can get a lot of movement and change of speed on pitches just by your finger placement on the ball and how you grip it." Joe and his wife Deb, Aaron's mother, keep very connected with their son's involvement with the Mets. "I call him and give him my quick critique of how he pitched after every game and let him know what dad thinks," Joe said. "Other than that we talk about once a week or so and have a longer conversation, of course." The Heilmans listen to every Mets game on XM radio and when Aaron pitches, they watch the game either on television when it's on here or on their computer on MLB.com with the help of a high-speed Internet connection. They follow news articles on him via a Google News search of his name. They also listen to New York sports radio. They attend Mets games if they're playing in the Midwest throughout the summer. They plan to attend games in New York if the Mets make it to the National League Championship Series and the World Series. Aaron isn't the only athlete in the family. Joe played basketball at St. Benedict's College and ran track and field at Indiana University. Aaron's two sisters, Michelle and Jennifer, were standout softball players in high school. Michelle pitched at St. Joseph's College. "Michelle took up fast-pitch pitching and Aaron wasn't going to be outdone," Joe said. "Every time that Michelle threw a no-hitter, then Aaron had to come back and do the same thing. There was quite a bit of competition there between the two of them." Aaron led Logansport High School to two regional titles. The Berries, who have the third-most state championships in baseball in Indiana with four, reached the state finals during his junior year in 1996. That was when the state finals were two games in one day, and he didn't start the afternoon game, in which the Berries were defeated by Merrillville 5-3. Aaron was the Gatorade state player of the year his senior year, when he went 11-1 with a 1.06 ERA and had 105 strike outs in 79 innings pitched. As a junior, he went 10-3 with two saves, a 0.98 ERA and 87 strike outs and 17 walks in 81 innings pitched. He pitched a perfect game as a freshman and had a 17-strike out game in a 1996 American Legion regional contest. The Mets open National League Division Series play today when they host the Los Angeles Dodgers at 4 p.m.

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We have rpackrat --- who we haven't heard from in five months --- on the first page of this thread.

See now, you shouldn't have answered that, because you allow him to put the burden of proof on you. Of course, it's rather unproveable that any player's success can be attributed to his coach, so your preponderance of evidence can be rejected as not being "proof."

SteveJRogers wrote: Seems like Peterson will never live that one down though. That's because too many people get a hateful idea in their head and won't listen to anything else. Don't let yourself be one. Ever SteveJRogers wrote: Show me evidence that Peterson has made a difference to a pitcher here in NY since he's been here. Show me evidence that his track record is pretty shitty.

Kaz Matsui needs a golden finish to his season to carry this bet for Elster. He's at .269 / .313 / .370 // .683.