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Departures1968 RankingsPOINTSPLAYERSPREADSHEET SEZDIF30Jerry KoosmanJerry Koosman--29Tom SeaverTom Seaver--28Cleon JonesCleon Jones--27Ed CharlesRon Swoboda+226Jerry GroteJerry Grote--25Ron SwobodaDick Selma+224Don CardwellEd Charles-323Dick SelmaDon Cardwell-122Art ShamskyCal Koonce+121Cal KoonceArt Shamsky-120Ron TaylorBud Harrelson+619Larry StahlTommie Agee+618Jim McAndrewNolan Ryan+117Nolan RyanRon Taylor-316Ken BoswellEd Kranepool+315J. C. MartinKen Boswell-114Bud HarrelsonJ. C. Martin-113Ed KranepoolJim McAndrew-512Tommie AgeeAl Jackson+211Greg GoossenAl Weis+610Al JacksonLarry Stahl-99Don BoschPhil Linz+38Kevin CollinsJerry Buchek+67Dan FrisellaKevin Collins-16Phil Linz5.5 Dan Frisella-1.55Al Weis5.5 Don Shaw+1.54Don ShawGreg Goossen-73Bill ShortDon Bosch-62Jerry BuchekBill Short-11Les RohrBill Conners+1No mas Les Rohr.

Check.

Check.

Hugeley inconsistent with my copy of the grand table.Hugely. Including no less than three cats who were left out completely.1965 RankingsPOINTSPLAYERSPREADSHEET SEZDIF30Johnny LewisJohnny Lewis--29Ron SwobodaCharley Smith+328Jim HickmanJack Fisher+527Ed KranepoolRon Swoboda-226Charley SmithEd Kranepool-125Roy McMillanAl Jackson+324Joe ChristopherTug McGraw+423Jack FisherJim Hickman-522Al JacksonWarren Spahn+621Chuck HillerGalen Cisco+420Tug McGrawJoe Christopher-419Bobby KlausRoy McMillan-618Ron HuntFrank Lary+1817Galen CiscoDarrell Sutherland+616Warren SpahnGordie Richardson+315Chris CannizzaroGary Kroll+114Gary KrollChuck Hiller-713Gordie RichardsonBobby Klaus-612Larry BearnarthRon Hunt-611Darrell SutherlandRob Gardner+1110Jesse GonderDick Selma+109John StephensonJohn Stephenson--8Billy CowenDennis Ribant+77Hawk TaylorJesse Gonder-36Tom ParsonsChris Cannizzaro-95Dan NapoleanBilly Cowen-34Larry MillerJim Bethke+13Jim BethkeHawk Taylor-42Gary KolbLarry Bearnarth-101Dennis RibantTom Parsons-5

Check.

Piazza's previous team, of course, was not LAD but SDP.

Gloater.

They're not. Knot is just posting them as tables to confirm that we all have the same list.We generally do, we didn't for 1963.

1963 RankingsPOINTSPLAYER30Ron Hunt29Carl Willey28Roger Craig27Jim Hickman26Al Jackson25Duke Snider24Frank Thomas23Larry Bearnarth22Tim Harkness21Galen Cisco20Tracy Stallard19Charlie Neal18Al Moran17Grover Powell16Joe Hicks15Jesse Gonder14Duke Carmel13Ed Kranepool12Rod Kanehl11Don Rowe10Joe Christopher9Ken McKenzie8Jay Hook7Choo Choo Coleman6Pumpsie Green5Jimmy Piersall4Chico Fernandez3Sammy Taylor2Cliff Cook1Norm Sherry

I never got an answer on my Jose Cardenal inquiry, and now my table is kerfuffled.

OK, we have a minor crisis here. Which is the authentic table?OE: On first glance, mine looks like it was culled from JG's 40-man list above.

OK, we have some significant disparities in this one. The top ten match up but we have big differences in the middle, particularly with Jay Hook. It might have been me screwing around, but I should have at least noted changes I imposed onto the spreadsheet in the thread.1963 RankingsPOINTSPLAYERSPREADSHEET SEZ:30Ron HuntRon Hunt29Carl WilleyCarl Willey28Roger CraigRoger Craig27Jim HickmanJim Hickman26Al JacksonAl Jackson25Duke SniderDuke Snider24Frank ThomasFrank Thomas23Larry BearnarthLarry Bearnarth22Tim HarknessTim Harkness21Galen CiscoGalen Cisco20Tracy StallardTracy Stallard19Charlie NealCharlie Neal18Jay HookAl Moran (+1)17Al MoranGrover Powell (+5)16Rod KanehlJoe Hicks (+1)15Jim (actually Joe) HicksJesse Gonder (+4)14Ed KranepoolDuke Carmel (+6)13Choo Choo ColemanEd Kranepool =orange](-1)12Grover PowellRod Kanehl =orange](-4)11Jesse GonderDon Rowe (+5)10Joe ChristopherJoe Christopher9Ken McKenzieKen McKenzie8Duke CarmelJay Hook =orange](-10)7Pumpsie GreenChoo Choo Coleman =orange](-6)6Don RowePumpsie Green =orange](-1)5Jimmy PiersallJimmy Piersall4Chico FernandezChico Fernandez3Hawk TaylorSammy Taylor(Hawk didn't appear until '64)2Cliff CookCliff Cook1Norm SherryNorm Sherry

That's what the spreadsheet has, to the last man.

Those guys who got Casey should be ineligible to also get Piazza, no? That's a fun sheet. Juan Pierre confounded all seven of you. And his salary confounds everybody else.

Yet, your vote brings us down to 7.69 staplers. I'm going to burn your house down.

Even with the three-stapler gap between the likes and the like-nots, we're sitting at 7.87 staplers on a ten-stapler scale.

No thread left, but here are the results. 2003 RankingsPOINTSPLAYER30Mike Cameron29Tom Glavine28Al Leiter27Mike Piazza26Kazuo Matsui25Braden Looper24Cliff Floyd23Steve Trachsel22David Wright21Ty Wigginton20Richard Hidalgo19Ricky Bottalico18Eric Valent17Mike Stanton16Jae Weong Seo15Jason Phillips14Orber Moreno13Todd Zeile12Kris Benson11Shane Spencer10Jose Reyes9Matt Ginter8Vance Wilson7Mike DeJean6Wilson Delgado5Danny Garcia4Dan Wheeler3David Weathers2Heath Bell1Karim Garcia

Thsi comes from the grand table. I think it matches the list above. 2003 RankingsPOINTSPLAYER30Steve Trachsel29Ty Wigginton28Cliff Floyd27Jason Phillips26Al Leiter25Jae Weong Seo24Jose Reyes23Mike Piazza22Jeromy Burnitz21David Weathers20Tom Glavine19Roger Cedeño18Timo Perez17Armando Benitez16Vance Wilson15Roberto Alomar14Tony Clark13Joe McEwing12Dan Wheeler11Mike Stanton10Raul Gonzalez9Pedro Feliciano8John Franco7Graeme Lloyd6Jeff Duncan5Rey Sanchez4Aaron Heilman3Grant Roberts2Scott Strickland1Jeremy Griffith

Will do.

You've become a tablemaking fool.

Forum killer.

This is allegedly non-scripted, in order to make real Americans look real stupid. Forget about real Kazahkstanis. I think I had my fill of Sasha Baron Cohen in Talladega Nights.

Not a long list of competitors. Nor is it a big departure for Baldwin. Best of Baldwin's monotone thugs? Why not? Shelly was a complex malefactor. Why does Dickshot's post read like it's from Norrin. I agreed with him, by the way. I'm shaking the screen going, "Go to the casino next door and break the bank there, you mook." Anyone believe Joey Fatone's headlining act could turn around the attraction of the casino's theater?

William H. Macy is Charlie, the unluckiest gambler ever, so a mob-run casino has him hired out to go from table to table jinxing people. Alec Baldwin portays the casino manager, trying to keep his place old-school in the face of the Disneyfication of Vegas. Maria Bello is Natalie, the X-factor that may change Charlie's luck.

No, nobody anticipated it. Certainly not me. But it at leasst reflects somewhat well on the Mets, in retrospect, to bring in enough interesting and considered options --- young and old --- that one of them panned out when Matsui didn't. Or maybe it was pure luck, but it reflects really well on Willie that when Valentin asked for his release early in the year, Minaya refused on Willie's advice, and Willie instead told him to get himself ready.