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metsguyinmichigan wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: It seems like if they're playing such a hard bargain that the city uses other methods, then they overplayed their hand. In the you-shouldn't-have-made-me-punch-you sense? You're not my big brother, are you? Not at all. But if you know your brother CAN punch you, you don't push him to do that, right? If you know the city can use things like ED, seems like you get what you can get because if they use ED or another process, you're probably not going to get as much and it will cost you a bundle to fight it. Yeah, sure. I guess you disagree, but I think that stinks.
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metsguyinmichigan wrote: It seems like if they're playing such a hard bargain that the city uses other methods, then they overplayed their hand. In the you-shouldn't-have-made-me-punch-you sense? You're not my big brother, are you? I really think concerns over whether the property owners are saintly or greedy is a red herring.
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Ceetar again embraces political discourse. I don't assume anything. I'm sure they're driving as hard a bargain as they can get. My objection is to existence of the eminent domain right at all --- which compromises the bargaining position by it's nature. I also object to their position being compromised by the city's deliberate neglect of the area, and that neglect being definitively held against the property owners.
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It's disappointing to me. And nobody was yelling. And you sure had enough of a enough of a taste for political debate when it involved the Catholic Church.
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That's disappointing. Funny how this is reported at the exact same time as the city is withdrawing the E.D. card.
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Ceetar wrote: I mean, their were quotes about the sellers being happy with it. But sure. of course, eminent domain IS legal, no matter what your political stance is on it. And plenty of quotes about the holdouts being miserable. Just because it's legal, doesn't mean folks have no grounds to object to it. And yes, it was declared legal as sanctioned by a thin majority of the court in a strictly partisan ruling --- decided by the left wing of the Court, despite a chunk of the left wing of the forum here (at least as represented by Willets and Sage) dissenting, and at least one rep of the right (MGiM) assenting. Part of why I like the conversation --- it doesn't split on partisan lines. I'll bet that a lot of the people who support the use of eminent domain at Willets Point are also the same people who are vehemently opposed to big government and its interference with small business. I don't think this is going to be as easy an hypocrisy trap for the right to walk into as all that.
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We're about 17-18 days short of Dickey's second anniversary of Metness.
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Ceetar wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'd also rather see something nicer in that spot, but I'd prefer to see the current landowners made an offer that they won't want to refuse, rather than an offer that they're legally required to not refuse. which as I understand it has been the case so far. There was a blog about it with links but it's gone. Well, as long as the eminent domain card is there to be played, any deal made is/was under coercion (extra-Constitutional coercion, to my thinking), whether your or I think it's a sweet price or not.
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I like this topic.
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Resuming Baseball Activities: Injuries in 2012
Edgy MD replied to Edgy MD's topic in New York Mets Talk
D.J. Carrasco joins the Bisons today. Threw six scoreless innings as a St. Lucian. -
I have no problem with replacing the Iron Triangle as long as they are properly compensated. The city as a whole benefits greatly by having that area cleaned up. Problem is to me that proper compensation be set by the free market. Not by the whim of the landgrabber. The city doesn't need to sieze private property to "clean the place up." On laws that check eminent domain: ... can such laws trump the Supreme Court decision? ... aren't laws by states and municipalities checking the powers of states and municipalities rather toothless --- especially if the courts roll over as they've done?
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I'd only change that by rephrasing "highly susceptible to corruption" as "highly susceptible to corruption." Sometimes the system can be so conducive to corruption that we no longer recognize it for what it is.
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Dickey pitching the wiffleknuckler in Tompkins Square Park.
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O-o-T-S -- Wed/Thurs Edition (5/2-5/3)
Edgy MD replied to Frayed Knot's topic in Archived Game Threads
Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: You know, if a game started by Roy Halladay can lead to 15 runs allowed including a 6-0 lead yielded by Halladay, that's real good news. He's the key to this whole division. Well, if he's going to make a habit of blowing 6-0 leads, Tim Hudson might become the key to the whole division. If Halladay falters, the division is anybody's and any number of guys could become the key. -
O-o-T-S -- Wed/Thurs Edition (5/2-5/3)
Edgy MD replied to Frayed Knot's topic in Archived Game Threads
You know, if a game started by Roy Halladay can lead to 15 runs allowed including a 6-0 lead yielded by Halladay, that's real good news. He's the key to this whole division. -
metsguyinmichigan wrote: I'd say it's about two Hafner starts away. Wait, we got Hafner?
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SCHAEFER METS PLAYERS OF THE MONTH, APRIL 2012
Edgy MD replied to Benjamin Grimm's topic in New York Mets Talk
Rauch: a descendant of Giant Mets Guy? -
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Let's just talk in more general terms. What do the Mets have to trade? Sure they could find a lot of return fro Wright but I don't think they'll dare. Davis? Not that way he's going. Thole? Not much and we need him. Relievers? No value yet. Bay? Not with that contract. Tejada or Duda would be stupid. Torres and Hairston would bring so little. Muffy -- or perhaps, the right choices from the minors -- is what we have to trade. Right? They could trade the shit out of Jon Rauch. The question to me is whether, if you are looking for a starter to bridge a few weeks in a season such as this, do you give up a career for him? And I think with Sandy's history of restraint, his answer is going to be somewhere between, "I dunno yet" and "Impress me."
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Believe me, I'm aware that disaster is around every corner. It's believing it can be dodged that is the undoing of too many. You can negotiate with it, dance a tango, fight it to a standoff. You can toss it a piece of meat as you scamper around the corner. You can take a deep breath as you turn out the light before dashing across the bathroom floor back to your bed. But still it lurks, even in your sweetest moments of laughable success, you feel its hot and foul breath on the back of your neck. Still, I think they'll throw Hefner a start.
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They've been so deliberate, I would thing they're bound to throw Hefner into the breach at least once before they make a move.
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SCHAEFER METS PLAYERS OF THE MONTH, APRIL 2012
Edgy MD replied to Benjamin Grimm's topic in New York Mets Talk
Yeah, sometimes success means shewin' up. This card is a Kessel Run of cool: Benjamin Grimm wrote: If Rauch doesn't get a Schaefer Award tattoo, I'll be very disappointed. -
Man, happy anniversary to the savage tornadoes of 1952.
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Steve Phillips was a mad supporter of this deal. I doubt he was the big signoff on the Mets' end, but he insisted that the dividends were already paying off weeks later, or something.
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I'd be slow to call the development of any mall "exciting."
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Wright 3.90 Tejada 2.95 Byrdak 1.44 Francisco 1.03 Torres 0.62 Nieuwenhuis 0.07
