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  1. Piazza's co-author has come out and said that his book will explicitly deny steroid use. Guess the notion of holding a vote until he comes clean in an autobiography isn't going to work. Seriously, though, how is waiting until his autobiography comes out in any way getting to the bottom of the story? Whether or not it clears up the rumors of PED usage, it'll totally put the gay thing to bed.
  2. Well, if it were really funny, it would have been funny a long time ago, and then not funny anymore, and then funny only in the sense that it's not funny, and then maybe ironically funny, or worthy of a brief smile whenever anybody thought of how funny it used to be, wondering about those innocent times when all it took to break up the boys in the frat house was Gracie Allen playing dumb on the radio, or sportswriters as moral arbiters. And then maybe the Cohen brothers would make a movie about that time, of an America we knew existed, but is somehow unrecognizable when we are dropped into it --- with the Pullman porters, and the evening wear with those ridiculous shirt fronts, and the moral arbiter sportswriters, and the people who couldn't stop laughing about it. I'm thinking Adrian Brody and Kate Bosworth, or one of those chicks. Really, I'm not sure why it should be surprising that they are acting in that role. They're asked to do it to an extent, and they've done it before. Like I said, I just don't like the inconsistent logic, and the abdicating of the responsibility to distinguish a little more seriously.
  3. When they call you in to apologize, make sure you don't order the roast duck with the mango salsa. That's a de facto capitulation right there.
  4. I don't know, I just don't see a yelling brave in the same light as a smiling goofball. If we continue on this logic, we're getting to the point where all humanoid nicknames are wrong. Maybe they are, but I think we're heading there when it's not necessarily where we intend to end up. Is it?
  5. It seems it's only culture that keeps the entire coaching staff wired on headsets like foo'ball.
  6. If consistent logic can be defined differently by different people, it's not consistent logic. The practice of logic is designed to defy subjectivity. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/17483473-419/morrissey-for-mlb-hall-of-fame-numbers-arent-the-only-thing-that-counts.html Another horrible column. I had no idea there was a Morrissey for MLB Hall of Fame movement. The Smiths were great but...
  7. The original bacne thread, featuring a Hall of Fame post from dinojesus.
  8. Docs are definitely eligible for Best Picture.
  9. I'm staying out of high school. I just work the wifey beat.
  10. Twitter folks are already responding to the article by demanding the hateful Mets start him in Queens or else be revealed to be the hateful hatebutts that they are. Got to love David Wright calling him the day of the trade to tell him how excited he is to have him on board. You don't owe Dickey any respectful grace period, Shug, nossir.
  11. Updated the list to include Lincoln on top. And it's not like I lubbed it. Lincoln Moonrise Kingdom Safety Not Guaranteed John Carter Brave Battleship The Amazing Spider-Man The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey The Avengers Salmon Fishing in the Yemen * * * Plus: Trouble with the Curve The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel Ruby Sparks
  12. The funny thing is the fans are as split on the issue of what to do with the roiders as the writers, but the writers are being vilified, and they're probably wondering why. They didn't create the problem. Nobody has been clear about what to do. But what they don't seem to realize is that all anybody asks of them is to use some internally consistent logic. But so many have become such a bunch of swaggering voice-of-the-fan caricatures that few of them even know how to sustain original thoughts any more. Heyman in 2011: Why Bonds belongs in the Hall by Jon Heyman Barry Bonds doesn't belong in jail. He belongs in the Hall of Fame. In the court of law, Bonds probably got what he deserved, which was to be found guilty on obstruction charges but not perjury. Lawyers I talked to were somewhat surprised Bonds wasn't convicted on the perjury count involving his denial about ever being injected by anyone other than a doctor because his former personal shopper Kathy Hoskins testified that she witnessed Bonds' oft-jailed trainer, Greg Anderson, inject him. But on the main question, which was whether Bonds lied about knowingly taking performance-enhancing drugs, the feds didn't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Bonds perjured himself. The standards are high in a court of law, as they should be. For the Hall, it's a judgment call. Scoundrels and cheats are already in. So are foul-tempered jerks. Bonds may be all three. He is also one of the three greatest players I ever saw in his prime, along with Alex Rodriguez and Rickey Henderson. A baseball Hall of Fame would be empty without Bonds. While I do believe Bonds took steroids (whether it was knowingly or not doesn't much matter to me, though if I had to guess, I think he knows everything that goes in his body), I don't believe all steroid users should be excluded from the Hall of Fame. I'm not here to sit in moral judgment of another human being. Of course I don't condone any usage, but I will point out Bonds' steroid taking was never flagged by MLB. He never failed a test (he passed the 2003 survey test) and he was never proven to have used after testing went into effect. I also believe the anecdotal evidence that suggests he didn't start using until 2000. Unless a voter makes a moral judgment (and I won't judge voters who do that, either), the question voters need to ask, beyond whether a candidate ever used PEDs, is whether those drugs helped transform the player into a Hall of Famer. If there's a reasonable chance that player would have fallen short of the Hall without the extra help, I won't vote yes. I vote no on Mark McGwire, who I like much better than Bonds. While I believe McGwire's achievements are clearly Hall worthy (it's a copout to say they aren't), I have strong reason to suspect the drugs helped him reach those heights. As for Bonds, I don't think anyone could reasonably make the case that he needed drugs to be a Hall of Famer. When Bonds signed with his hometown Giants for $43.75 million in December of 1992 to become the highest-paid player in baseball history he was already the best player in the game, and he earned that contract through only good genes (his dad, Bobby, was also an incredible combination of speed and power) and hard work. He had a small head at the time, and he maintained that, at least in the literal sense, for several years to come. "Phenomenal ... Best player I ever saw,'' said the Rockies' Jason Giambi, another great ballplayer and admitted former steroid user, on Thursday. Giambi might have personal reason to overlook the value of steroids in others, but almost anyone who saw Bonds could probably echo Giambi's comment about him. The case has yet to be made that steroids enhanced Bonds anytime before 2000. Anecdotal evidence suggests that he started using sometime before that season. He was so annoyed to see lesser-lights such as Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa overtake him due to their drug regimens that Bonds decided to join the drug club. That's the story, and I believe it. Bonds knew he was the best, and he didn't want anyone stealing that title from him. So he started using. It wasn't a good decision on his part. Although the 'roids enabled him to become the pseudo alltime home run king, it put a taint on everything he did in his career beginning in '00. It also wasn't a good idea to stonewall prosecutors, to be evasive and obfuscate. The truth is always a good idea when the feds come calling. "Yeah, I'd say so,'' Giambi responded when asked whether he's happy to have told the truth and admitted his steroid use. "I went and did what I had to do. Even though it was eight years, it was nothing Earth shattering. It was things everyone already knew. I didn't know anything about Barry. I talked about my own usage and moved on. It was eight years, but I am done.'' Giambi is a natural truth teller. Bonds had more to lose. He was, at the time of his grand jury testimony, the single-season home run king and a real candidate for the Hall. That's no excuse, however, to stonewall the feds. Bonds probably got what he deserved from the government for it. He had to live through a gut-wrenching trial, and now he is a convicted felon. Sentencing guidelines suggest a jail sentence of 15-to-21 months, but Judge Susan Ilston sentenced cyclist Tammy Thomas to six months of home confinement and track coach Trevor Graham to one year of home confinement after similar convictions. Lawyers with some familiarity with the case told me yesterday that they don't believe the government will attempt to retry Bonds on the perjury charges, as they carry similar penalties. They came close to conviction on Bonds' claim that he wasn't injected by anyone but his doctor (according to one juror, that vote was 11-1 to convict on that count) and solid majorities voted to acquit (eight on one count, nine on the other) on the most relevant perjury counts. I've seen some lawyers quoted saying Ilston must show that the big fish doesn't get preferential treatment. But it's the opposite, I think. Already, they only went after Bonds in the first place because he's the big guy. There were plenty of baseball players who did steroids and plenty who were customers of BALCO. But he is one of two on trial. The feds have every right to prosecute one or some or none, but we can't forget the reason they went after Bonds in the first place is because he is who he is. Enough is enough now. Ilston has been reasonable before, and there's no reason to assume she'd opt to give Bonds jail time when she hasn't in the past. But if she does, well, it's fair to say he did do the crime. Technically, because he wasn't convicted of lying, perhaps some Bonds supporter can try to make the case that the feds didn't prove he took steroids. And that may be so. But what proof did we need? As Giambi already said regarding himself, we already knew. Even if the bigger body and head aren't quite proof that Bonds did steroids, his power totals late in his career are. Nobody improves their slugging numbers after 35 the way Bonds did. It just isn't humanly possible. We didn't need a long trial and millions of dollars and hours of manpower spent to tell us Bonds is a cheat. It's fair to say that not all his numbers are legit. But enough of them are, in all great likelihood, to suggest he was Hall worthy before he became a steroid user. As I said, I believe he didn't start using until the 2000 season, by which point he had already: � Won three NL MVP awards � Won eight Gold Glove awards � Hit 448 home runs � Made eight All-Star appearances � Had the highest WAR in baseball six times It's probably easier just to promise not to vote any steroid users into the Hall. But I am not ready to wipe out an entire era. I can't prove that a majority of baseball players used steroids in that era, but the evidence suggests that many of the best players did. Just look at the MVP winners who have been linked to PEDs or have admitted using: Ken Caminiti, Sammy Sosa, Jason Giambi, Alex Rodriguez. The Hall already inducted spitball pitcher Gaylord Perry without a stitch of uproar. Perry wrote the book (literally) on how to deface baseballs to get hitters out. A case can be made that Bonds' type of cheating is worse. But unlike Perry, I'd say he did it at a time when many were doing it, and he didn't start doing it until he already had a Hall of Fame career. I don't admire Bonds as anything other than a ballplayer. But that's what he was -- a ballplayer, probably the best I or many of us have ever seen.
  13. �I don�t think Piazza or Jeff Bagwell are in the same category,� he said. �I don�t think they would have been good enough without help. I mean, Bagwell was a singles hitter in the minor leagues, and then his body changed and he was a home run hitter. Piazza was what, a 62nd-round draft pick?� Well, he only had two seasons, but the record suggests he was a pretty impressive doubles hitter. And, even then, he was a fantastic on-base guy. Lots of guys don't really develop their homerun stroke until they're in the bigs. Guys like... Don Mattingly... Derek Jeter... .
  14. His description is bullshit, or what he's describing?
  15. I'm trying to figure out if I should conclude that a voting body this fragmented has no chance of giving Jeter a higher vote percentage than Tom Seaver, or they'll all coalesce around Jeter as a symbolic figure of redemption, just as Seaver shown just a bit brighter as a symbolic straight arrow in an age of yippies.
  16. seawolf17 wrote: My ten for next year, as of right now: Bonds, Maddux, Bagwell, Piazza, Thomas, Biggio, Raines, McGwire, Clemens, and... Trammell, I guess? I'm not sure on my tenth. But I'm fully in on the Steroids Three now. Steroids Three? I guess you mean Bonds, Clemens, and McGwire. But where does that leave Sosa and Palmiero? Each has a career that's pretty superlative if that question gets shelved. Possibly re-opens a door for Canseco too, if fully in is fully in. Are you knocking off 20% (or so) for known juicers, which keeps those three over the line, but not the others? (I think this is a legit approach, by the way.)
  17. I liked how thousands of tweets went out at once. Apparently "the sabermetric community" = "the unemployed community watching TV during the day."
  18. Supposedly, Ken Rosenthal just went on MLB telebision and likened the "sabermetric community" to the Tea Party for "hijacking the system" with their "internet crusade" to keep out Jaques Morris.
  19. seawolf17 wrote: And there are a lot of outfielders who are more hallworthy than Lofton. Hell, maybe even Bernie Williams.... BOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Get off the stage!!!!!!!
  20. Mr. Aaron-Sele-Voter, step right up.
  21. A story that'll get overlooked: Kenny Lofton is one and done.
  22. I can kind of buy going in for Bonds and not Clemens, depending on how you buy the narrative about when they started dosing and how much value they derived. I can also kind of buy going in for Clemens and not Bonds, depending on how you buy the theory of white racial superiority.
  23. FanGraphs sez --- Carter: 72.5 Piazza: 66.8 Whoah....
  24. "Stop worrying about hats! We need pitching! And outfielders! And Jeffy to DIE!!" --- Mets fans on social media everywhere.
  25. smg58 wrote: Still, Carter in his prime threw out half the attempted basestealers, which was way beyond what Piazza could do. Well, not quite half. The distinction between Carter and Piazza regarding the running game was real, but perhaps not so dramatic as it's easy to imagine it was. CarterPiazzaYearGames CaughtSBCSCS%YearGames CaughtSBCSCS%197461150.0%19921610428.6%197566222148.8%19931461085935.3%197660272750.0%1994104762625.5%19771461135532.7%1995112882924.8%1978152805842.0%19961461553418.0%1979138756646.8%19971391124327.7%1980149946340.1%19981401154126.3%1981100504446.8%19991351153724.3%19821531037040.5%20001241103222.5%1983144867546.6%20011271143322.4%19841431075031.8%20021191252717.8%1985143995134.0%200364592328.0%19861221144528.3%20045034920.9%19871351224627.4%2005101821313.7%19881191363118.6%200699971311.8%198947462030.3%20070000.0%199080662124.1%199168592832.2%199285983827.9%Total1996149881035.1%Total1622140042323.2% I think the real value with a catcher (or outfielder) whose arm is a threat is not the runners he catches, so much as the overall chilling effect he has on the running game. Similarly, the challenge of a catcher with arm that wasn't respected wasn't so much the difference between catching 23% vs. 35% of runners, but rather the far greater number of folks emboldened to run and take advantage of the opportunity that presented. This difference is visible looking at Carter's and Piazza's record side-by-side, though Carter caught in an era when the stolen base was more common. My futher comment is that it sure became tedious, as Carter grew less and less successful in throwing out runners, to hear announcers continually blame it on the high kicks of the Mets' pitching staff.
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