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What's franco at these days,thought by now he'd be showing up on SNY.

Edgy DC wrote: Where's the number coming from? From the media,watched the "Sports Reporters" this morning and heard it again,read papers last week and that was the number,Boras must love it.

Great pic,he's getting big,four innings is about all one could expect form the young Shot,Perez didn't last much longer,and that was fine too.

Right move sending Pelfrey down and keeping Sele,at least if Pelfrey was going to be the long man.

MFS62 wrote: Anyone see it? I've heard that Tom Seaver seemed to be a tad, er, .... inebriated. Did any of you think the same thing? Later Yep,it's talked aboput in the IGT......probably brought a case of his own wine.

I'd hope # 300 is a gem like tonights.

And??????????

Mota - 0.5 Schoeneweis - 0.5 Heilman - 0.5 Green - 0.5 Wright - 0.5 Delgado - 1 Milledge - 1 Gotay - 1.5

OHernandez - 3 Wagner - 1 Feliciano - 1 Smith - 1 Gotay - 2 Milledge - 1 Reyes - 1

I turned over,he's got good stuff and no probelm changing arm angles and such....he needs a throw back jersey.

Nice touch with Pete Flynn,seriously though was Seaver drunk,he sure sounded drunk to me,Ralph was great...very nice tribute to him.

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I voted to keep it. It's silly, it's quirky, it's fun, and it's unique. That's how I feel,when I took my wife to her first game this year and Green hit a home run she loved the apple coming up,as do I.

Is he worth that contract,probably not but who is?,so did he have anything to do with Hardgrove walking away? I can see Valentine coaching Seattle one of these years,Japanese owners,Ichrio has huge respect for him,he'd be great there.

Not going Steve but expect a full report from you,should be a great night,Seaver,Berra and Feller are expected to be on hand with a number of former Mets.

] BY NEIL BEST neil.best@newsday.com July 13, 2007, 12:39 PM EDT Gary Sheffield asserts black and white players are treated differently under Yankees manager Joe Torre, says Derek Jeter "ain't all the way black," and denies he ever has used steroids because "steroids is something you shoot in your butt" in an eye-opening interview with Andrea Kremer for the next edition of HBO's "Real Sports," debuting at 10 p.m. Tuesday night. In a copy of the interview made available to Newsday late Friday morning, Sheffield begins by saying, "I tell myself every offseason I'm not going to say anything crazy. I'm just going to have a peaceful season . . . Can't do it. I'm cut from a different cloth." And how. In the middle of the interview, Kremer reports that Sheffield believes white and black players are coached differently, then asks him to name teams on which they are not coached the same. He immediately answers: "The Yankees." How so? "I know when I was there the couple of blacks that were there, every one of them had an issue with the organization," he says. Kremer asks him whether by "organization," he means George Steinbrenner, Brian Cashman or Joe Torre. "They had an issue with Joe Torre," Sheffield says. "They weren't treated like everybody else. I got called out in a couple of meetings that I thought were unfair." Kremer presses for details and he says, "He had a message to get across to the whole team, so he used me to get the message across." And he never did that with white players? "No . . . I'd see a lot of white players get called in the office and treated like a man. That's the difference." Kremer asked Sheffield whether he believes Torre is a racist. "No. I think it's the way they do things around there. Since I was there I just saw that they run their ship different." Kremer points out that the Yankees' most prominent player is black. "Who?" Sheffield says. Derek Jeter. "Derek Jeter is black and white." Kremer then confirms that Jeter is half black and half white. "Exactly," Sheffield responds. Kremer asks what the significance of that is. "There's really no significance. You just ain't all the way black," he says. Asked whether he ever discussed the subject with Jeter, Sheffield says, "Derek Jeter used to come to me and try to tell you what Joe Torre is all about, he's a good man, he's this, he's that, but like I tell Derek Jeter, that's you. It's one thing that they treat you a certain way; you don't feel what other people feel." Sheffield later asserts that to survive for long as a black player, the player must be "great," which he says has been the key to his longevity. Sheffield says he has learned from his uncle Dwight Gooden "what not to do," as well as to not let anybody "tell me how to do anything, nothing. I do it the way I got to do it and that's it." Later, Kremer asks Sheffield about his alleged steroid use, including his grand jury testimony that he used steroid cream on his legs and liquid (or "clear") under his tongue. He says he started using those products when Barry Bonds, his workout partner at the time, saw his stash of vitamins and yelled, "What are you taking that stuff for? It's stupid." So he got the other substances from BALCO, not knowing they were in effect steroids. In fact, he still denies every taking steroids, even though he was told the clear was for "muscle recovery, like when you lift weights you can recover." He said, "In a million years, I don't care what anybody says, steroids is something you shoot in your butt. I do know that . . . The bottom line is steroids is something you stick in your butt �- period." Sheffield wonders why "if I took what Barry Bonds took, why don't I look like him?" He says he parted ways with Bonds because he felt a trust had been violated. "I trusted this man, he allowed me to stay in his house," Sheffield says. "I started seeing the control factor. I started seeing, wait a minute, you aren't going to tell me what to do." Sheffield initially says he had not received a letter requesting that he speak with George Mitchell about steroids, but Kremer turns to his manager and learns he has. He says "more than likely" he would agree to talk to Mitchell and would answer him the same way he did Kremer. "I don't feel like it's all that much of a threat to me," he says. He adds he is unconcerned about the possibility of the controversy around him keeping him out of the Hall of Fame. "I'm going to say what I got to say, and I'm going to do it how I got to do it and I can live myself," he says. "I sleep very good at night, very good." Near the start of the interview, Kremer asks Sheffield how one man can have so much chaos in his life. "Bad choice of women," he says. "That's way weak, man," Kremer says. "All the turmoil in your life is because of women?" "Yeah," he says. Kremer then asks him whether he takes any responsibility for it. "I picked 'em," he says. Subscribe to Newsday home delivery | Article licensing and reprint options

Gwreck wrote: Smells suspiciously like "making a move for the sake of making a move." ] "It's not that one guy is going to make that big of a difference," Minaya said. "I think that whoever we put as hitting coach, it's because we just needed a change."

Willie is fucking pissed,talking about how Rick was his brother,told Omar he's the GM and if he wantred to fire Down then he could,cos well he's the GM...Willie left little doubt that he din't like it. Omar couldn't put a complete sentence together talking aobut the firing....

nymr83...love the new avatar...

Dugue gets a hit then steals second.... Reyes and Gotay make Mets history tonight ,their back to back first inning home runs to start the game were a first in Mets history.

El Duque walked the pitcher to load the bases and Hatteberg made him pay,game tied at two. Green looks very awkward trying to make a play on two balls tonight. Is Keith auditioning for the hitting coach job?

cleonjones11 wrote: More family time for Franco..he certainly wasn't doing much as a Met By that standard a few guys should get cut.

Omar is damn busy...Ledee was DFA'd the other day so maybe that's one reason to pick up Marlon.

Here is the bizarre Rickey....from Jim Baumbach . ] There's been so many stories told about Rickey, it's often hard to remember what's truth and what's fiction. He's well known for not remembering his teammates' names, and one of his former teammates once told me a story about how Rickey was forced to stand on the team bus and list everyone's names. Of course, he couldn't do it. Then there's the story that Tony Gwynn likes to repeat, about how when they were teammates on the Padres Gwynn offered Rickey a prime seat on the team bus because, he explained, Rickey had tenure. As the story goes, Rickey responded with something to the effect of, "What are you talking about? Rickey's got 17 years." In search of more Rickey stories, I dug deep into the Newsday archives this morning, reading through as many Rickey quotes as I could find. Here's the best of them. *** Rickey's years with the Yankees were quite newsworthy, though that had as much to do with George Steinbrenner being in his prime, firing managers at will. But Rickey did his part to add to the bizarre clubhouse atmosphere. -- On Billy Martin's rule that players must show part of their stirrup, Henderson said, "Tomorrow I'm going to put a big bucket in the middle of the [clubhouse]. We're all going to throw our socks in there and I'll burn them." -- On a private meeting with George Steinbrenner to discuss his criticisms, Rickey insisted he wasn't bothered one bit. "I'm like a branch floating in the breeze," he said. -- On manager Lou Piniella putting him in centerfield, "Centerfield? I ain't playing centerfield. I don't care. I ain't playing there." (This quote seems to me to be the best of Jim Mora's "Playoffs?" and Allen Iverson's "We're talking about practice!" combined into one.) -- But nothing topped the start of spring training in 1989 for Rickey, considering for the fifth straight season with the Yankees he did not show on the report date. This, however, did not please new manager Dallas Green. Not that Rickey cared. He had his own explanation, saying he flew from Oakland to Atlanta to Baltimore to Miami to Fort Lauderdale, then found out he had no hotel reservations for spring training. "Yeah, I was ticked off," he said. "I had no place to stay. You're calling me and telling me to come to spring training. You don't have a place [for me] to stay. Why come to spring training?" The story was vintage Rickey. Told Green was not happy with him, he said, "Upset with me? The manager ain't even met me. How can he be upset? What can he be upset for? I might be early. He said I'm late . . . I have business. I have things I've got to do before I get to spring training . . . My itinerary told me to be here today. Their itinerary told me to be here Wednesday. My itinerary told me to come here Thursday and be dressed Friday. I guess they misprinted it." Even then, people were using the Rickey being Rickey phrase, including Rickey himself. "Rickey's gonna be Rickey. Period. No matter what I'm going to do or play or come here early, I'm gonna be Rickey. Rickey is not going to change and not be himself. I've been in this world too long to try to change Rickey and what he does . . . My mother don't even try to change me. She raised me, but she ain't gonna change me. "But what is 'being Rickey?' . . . What is 'being Rickey?' . . . Doin' his own thing? What is it I'm doing different? What am I doing? I didn't come on a day that he said. I came when I could make it." -- Speaking of Rickey's mother� he said after the A's won the World Series that season that he wanted to be a football player, but his mother, Bobbie, wouldn't let him. Rickey was still angered by that. "If she had let me go to college," Rickey said, "I could have become Bo Jackson before Bo Jackson." But� does Bo know Rickey? -- Remember when Rickey broke Lou Brock's stolen base record and proclaimed over the loudspeaker, "Today, I am the greatest of all-time." That's not all he did. The day before, Henderson arrived in the clubhouse and handed out specially made flyers with the words, "I was there when Rickey Henderson broke Lou Brock's all-time stolen-base record of 938 with steal number 939." He also had t-shirts commemorating the event ready to go. -- Here's a good Rickey being Rickey moment. During the 1992 season Rickey was unhappy with his contract, which was a common theme during his career. He told the Sacramento Bee, "'I'm not happy, so I'm going to ask to be traded. It's been going on too long. I don't think I'm treated fairly. They don't deserve what I do." Of course one day later he back-peddled, saying, "You are fools. It's a big joke. Rickey tricked everybody. Thank you all." -- Now let's fast forward to Rickey's short but eventful time with the Mets. He explained on his first day of spring training in 1999 that part of the reason he doesn't always know teammates' names is because, "I like nicknames." And, also, he said, "I never get that close to pitchers." -- He started camp just 1-for-20, but he wasn't worried. "If Rickey had to get on base right now, Rickey would." -- He enjoyed a fine 1999 season at the plate, but his play quickly became overshadowed by the show he put off the field. He grew irate at Bobby Valentine for taking him off the field for a defensive replacement during a playoff game, which essentially was the turning point with the Mets. He started the 2000 season unhappy, though in a way only Rickey can be unhappy. "I came here, I was a happy man today. I'll be happy tomorrow. Even if I'm talking unhappy, I was happy." Then, at the start of the season, "When Rickey's not happy, that's not good." Two days later, "My head ain't on right� I'm in a bad situation, a bad way. I hate it. I hate where I am." He went on to say he had a "garbage contract," which he partly blamed his agent for. But it wasn't meant to be, and the Mets released him in May. "I'm going fishing," he said. -- And, one final story I came across was a bizarre shouting match Rickey had with none other than El Duque during a spring training game in 2002. It wasn't clear what exactly bothered El Duque. He began yelling and they eventually had to be held back. "He needs to grow up a little bit," Rickey said. "I ain't a kid. When I broke into the game, he was crawling on his hands and knees. Unless he's as old as I am. He probably is." Email: jim.baumbach@newsday.com

Old article on the hate for RR... http://www.slate.com/id/2122085/ I like her, a little perky at times but that's OK.

bmfc1 wrote: I'm with Edgy: my guess is that the Mets will DL Franco and reinstate him in September when the roster expands. You really think that,my guess is that by then he'll be long forgotten,either retired or in a different organization.