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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: One of the hidden benefits of a "meaningless" stretch run is that we get to see a little shine on a few previously-unlit shoulders. I'm glad. I usually prefer your cards with action shots, Grimmy-- a la that '78 Dickey-- but the Ike is pristine. I dunno. The card's not centered and the top corners are dinged and rounded. It's not minty.

Almost 500 feet wide -- still nothing larger: Anyone ever seen this one?

Gwreck wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: So which is your least favorite of the modern scoreboards? Detroit needs an update pretty badly. I'm telling Mich what you just said. Brewers White Sox

Gwreck wrote: Centerfield wrote: I never felt he was given the horses to really compete Really? Are you including 2008 in that statement? I'll concede that Jerry did have the horses in 2008. It's no beard off of Jerry's chin. The Mets only had the best record in the NL during the remaining 2008 that Jerry inherited from Wee Willie. Don't blame Jerry for the Mets failure to make the playoffs that season. The games in April count just as much as the ones in September. For all of the criticism that Jerry gets around here, a lot of it deserved, it'd be nice for someone to acknowledge his deft touch over the team during his interim tenure. He didn't bunt in 2008 either. And while Jerry may have bumbled through the last two seasons, I think it's also accurate to say that he didn't have all of the horses he would need to satisfy the high expectations thrust upon him.

Gwreck wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: I started this thread with the preconceived idea that the Mets' main scoreboard was the ugliest of the moderns. Collecting these images confirms my POV. I get the impression that the Wilpons gave us a scoreboard grudgingly, the same way that they gave us a Mets HOF a year later. The Mets' scoreboard portion of the scoreboard looks like an afterthought -- an excuse to sell more ad space. I wonder if the Wilpons lose any sleep at night over the fact that there's a portion of their scoreboard that isn't generating ad revenue? Seriously? I'm not high on the Wilpons either but they didn't "grudgingly" include the scoreboard. .... Generally speaking, the Citi Field boards themselves are middle-of-the-pack. Not fantastic, but not awful. The out-of-town scoreboard would be among the best in the league if it could be seen properly at night. I know that they didn't give us a scoreboard grudgingly. I was being sarcastic. You didn't know that? You couldn't tell? Really now? So which is your least favorite of the modern scoreboards?

No surprises here.

Re: Skydome/Rogers -- Are you guys riffing on the stadium, or the scoreboard?

Ashie62 wrote: All nice but the Shea scoreboard beats them all. You may have a point. Two of my favorite scoreboards no longer exist, but were unveiled within one season of each other: Shea Stadium's scoreboard (through the '70's) and the Astrodome scoreboard. The modern scoreboards are technologically superior. But they're all so redundant looking. Seen one, seen 'em all, for the most part. One of these decades, some baseball owner is going to build a retro cookie cutter doughnut stadium, just to be different. One of my modern favorites is the scoreboard at The Rogers Centre, which is essentially nothing more than a gigantic screen. But it's sleek and uncluttered. I like the Royals scoreboard, too. (I know, not modern) And I like the way that the Yankees distanced their scoreboard advertising from the scoreboard itself. I started this thread with the preconceived idea that the Mets' main scoreboard was the ugliest of the moderns. Collecting these images confirms my POV. I get the impression that the Wilpons gave us a scoreboard grudgingly, the same way that they gave us a Mets HOF a year later. The Mets' scoreboard portion of the scoreboard looks like an afterthought -- an excuse to sell more ad space. I wonder if the Wilpons lose any sleep at night over the fact that there's a portion of their scoreboard that isn't generating ad revenue?

Check out the first post in this thread: http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?97172-Official-2010-Mets-Uniform-Log

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The Great American Ballpark scoreboard -- 8/29/10

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A random sampling of (all but one) modern MLB scoreboards. Which are your faves? Your least faves? Why? Astros Cards Giants (cont. in next post)

The top 50 Mets pitching WAR seasons, all-time, in chronological order. Despite missing the last month of this season, Johan's 2010 ranks as 34th best Met season ever, displacing Jesse Orosco's fabulous 1983 campaign from the Mets top 50. R.A. Dickey misses the top 50 by a few knuckles, checking in at 56th all time best Met pitching WAR. RankPitcher/TeamWARYEARIP/WAR 43Carl Willey4.0196345.7513Tom Seaver6.4196739.227Tom Seaver7.51968 37.078Jerry Koosman6.8196838.776Tom Seaver7.6196935.969Jerry Koosman6.7196935.9715Tom Seaver6.0197048.443Tom Seaver9.21971 31.1242Tug McGraw4.0197127.7510Jon Matlack6.7197236.4217Tom Seaver5.8197245.1744Tug McGraw3.9197227.1845Jim McAndrew3.8197242.282Tom Seaver9.51973 30.5320Jerry Koosman5.71973 46.1431Jon Matlack4.6197352.614Jon Matlack8.61974 30.8519Tom Seaver5.71974 41.4026Jerry Koosman5.11974 51.965Tom Seaver7.71975 36.4121Tom Seaver5.71976 48.3932Jerry Koosman4.6197653.7741Jon Matlack4.1197663.9018Craig Swan5.7197836.3733Craig Swan4.6197954.6424Dwight Gooden5.41984 40.371Dwight Gooden11.71985 23.6535Ron Darling4.4198556.3647Sid Fernandez3.7198546.0428Bob Ojeda4.71986 46.2430Ron Darling4.6198651.5236Dwight Gooden4.41986 56.8246Dwight Gooden3.8198747.2816David Cone5.8198839.8914Frank Viola6.3199039.6350David Cone3.7199057.2138David Cone4.2199155.4022Sid Fernandez5.51992 39.0349Dwight Gooden3.7199356.4025Bret Saberhagen5.21994 34.1039Rick Reed4.1199750.8111Al Leiter6.5199829.6940Rick Reed4.1199851.7927Al Leiter4.72000 44.2629Mike Hampton4.6200047.3248Steve Trachsel3.7200355.3237Al Leiter4.2200441.3523Pedro Martinez5.52005 39.4512Johan Santana6.4200836.6134Johan Santana4.4201045.23�.56R.A. Dickey3.4201051.27

Hitch gets the What me Worry? treatment and then cameos on the Simpsons:

It's very likely that Heyman has a reliable insider source within the Mets organization. Like him or not, over the past few seasons, Heyman's been the most accurate member of the media at predicting Mets developments before they happened.

Vic Sage wrote: don't mind the moroseness of Vertigo so much. I just remember the plot as being flawed. But I'm the guy that walks away from Casablanca because Paul Henreid as Laszlo, an enemy of the Third Reich, is allowed to exist in Vichy France with all of the apparent freedom of the King of Siam. its not just moroseness... its tragedy. And walking away from CASABLANCA is inexusable. Flawed plots do not bother me overmuch. Or rather, if i like a film, i'll excuse logical plot flaws. And if i don't like a film, i can pick its plot apart with disgust. But plots are just story-telling mechanics, and they can work better or worse, but are generally not a cause for my liking or not liking a movie, which has so many other story-telling tools at its disposal. Dick Crazy sez it was Cleopatra with a gun in a lover's quarrel. Cleopatra with a gun? How's that for a plot flaw?

More missing Mets from the 10th Inning: During the Joe Torre segment, the producers used video from every major league team Torre was ever asscociated with (Braves -- as player and manager; Cards -- as player and manager; Yankees (obviously) as manager) except the Mets.

Willets Point wrote: That would be the basic requirements as far as I'm concerned. Did I leave anything out? Sabermetrics penetrates the mainstream. The stadium revolution. Wild Cards/Expanded playoffs/Interleague play

Thanks Vic. I may have to watch Vertigo this weekend. It's not as if there's any baseball being played that's interesting me. I don't mind the moroseness of Vertigo so much. I just remember the plot as being flawed. But I'm the guy that walks away from Casablanca because Paul Henreid as Laszlo, an enemy of the Third Reich, is allowed to exist in Vichy France with all of the apparent freedom of the King of Siam. Duck Soup's one of my all time faves -- a desert island movie.