batmagadanleadoff

if Frenchy's in, I'm out.

...it's on HoJo and Manuel on why an offense that's been marginalized by Bay's concussion and Ike's rookie slump is failing.

G-Fafif wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Get outta town, Brown! Are you saying that you haven't seen this piece in over 30 years but you can still remember the word "Brown" on Leon Brown's cap? You've got Mets junk in the trunk. I've got piles of it up in the attic (pointing to head). You oughtta be in show business. Any opinion as to why Leon's in but Mickey's out?

For the month of August, all four regular Mets starting pitchers have ERA's under 3.00: Santana -- 31 1/3 IP - 2.30 ERA Pelfrey -- 26 2/3 - 2.36 Dickey -- 26 1/3 - 2.73 Niese -- 30 1/3 - 2.97

Here are your remaining in the glass Mets. SectionLocationMet1TopBob Apodaca -- Zvon1Bottom leftEd Kranepool -- DocTee1Bottom rightSkip Lockwood -- Zvon2Top leftMIKE PHILLIPS2Top rightNino Espinosa -- G-FAFIF2BottomJohn Stearns -- G-FAFIF3TopLeon Brown -- G-FAFIF3MiddleJohn Milner -- G-FAFIF3Leftmost (with guitar)Bud Harrelson -- Zvon3Right most (ball in right hand)Tom Seaver -- G-FAFIF3Bottom mostJoe Torre -- LWFS4TopDave Kingman -- G-FAFIF4Middle leftJerry Koosman -- G-FAFIF4Middle rightJon Matlack -- G-FAFIF4Bottom (furry mustache)Felix Millan -- Cooby5LeftRoy Staiger -- Zvon5Top MiddleJerry Grote -- G-FAFIF5Top rightBOB MYRICK5BottomJoe Frazier -- G-FAFIF6Top leftRon Hodges -- DocTee6Middle (with bat)Bruce Boisclair -- G-FAFIF6Top rightCRAIG SWAN6Bottom leftLee Mazzilli -- G-FAFIF6Bottom right (same as Sec 5, top right)BOB MYRICK7Mike Vail -- G-FAFIF My answer to the subjective trivia question would be Mickey Lolich. Why Brown, but not Lolich? And if Lolich was initially included in the caricature but then cropped out after he announced his retirement, then why did Leon Brown remain in the caricature? Brown was traded before Lolich announced his retirement. Or did Lolich confirm that he would not return to the Mets for the 1977 season months before he officially announced his retirement? Where's Mickey? And Leo Foster? And Pepe Mangual?

In about an hour, I'll ID whatever Mets remain unidentified. By the way, I didn't house clean or organize much of anything today. It was all downhill once I decided to post that mirror in this thread.

Zvon wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: That one was Bruce Stark. I remember those (and him). Loved those. One season they had one a week in the Sunday paper, I think. I tried to collect them all. Maybe they did that a few times over the years, I dunno. I remember the one of Willie Mays because he was making a basket catch with an actual basket, IIRC.

Kong76 wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: I'm beginning to think that this mirror is about as rare as that Christmas gift Ralph Kramden purchased that was made from matchsticks once owned by the Emperor of Japan. I imagine it's pretty rare, maybe not as rare as an orange juice squeezer shaped like Napoleon and the juice comes out the ears rare ... but rare. Cool find. I'd like to see the expression on the Emperor of Japan's face when he finds out it's missing.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: SectionLocationMet1TopBob Apodaca -- Zvon1Bottom leftEd Kranepool -- DocTee1Bottom rightSkip Lockwood -- Zvon2Top left2Top rightNino Espinosa -- G-FAFIF2BottomJohn Stearns -- G-FAFIF3TopLeon Brown -- G-FAFIF3MiddleJohn Milner -- G-FAFIF3Leftmost (with guitar)Bud Harrelson -- Zvon3Right most (ball in right hand)Tom Seaver -- G-FAFIF3Bottom mostJoe Torre -- LWFS4TopDave Kingman -- G-FAFIF4Middle leftJerry Koosman -- G-FAFIF4Middle rightJon Matlack -- G-FAFIF4Bottom (furry mustache)Felix Millan -- Cooby5LeftRoy Staiger -- Zvon5Top MiddleJerry Grote -- G-FAFIF5Top right5BottomJoe Frazier -- G-FAFIF6Top leftRon Hodges -- DocTee6Middle (with bat)Bruce Boisclair -- G-FAFIF6Top right6Bottom leftLee Mazzilli -- G-FAFIF6Bottom right (same as Sec 5, top right)7Mike Vail -- G-FAFIF 2 more G-FAFIF wrongs (6 total)

SectionLocationMet1TopBob Apodaca -- Zvon1Bottom leftEd Kranepool -- DocTee1Bottom rightSkip Lockwood -- Zvon2Top left2Top rightNino Espinosa -- G-FAFIF2BottomJohn Stearns -- G-FAFIF3TopLeon Brown -- G-FAFIF3MiddleJohn Milner -- G-FAFIF3Leftmost (with guitar)Bud Harrelson -- Zvon3Right most (ball in right hand)Tom Seaver -- G-FAFIF3Bottom mostJoe Torre -- LWFS4TopDave Kingman -- G-FAFIF4Middle leftJerry Koosman -- G-FAFIF4Middle rightJon Matlack -- G-FAFIF4Bottom (furry mustache)Felix Millan -- Cooby5LeftRoy Staiger -- Zvon5Top MiddleJerry Grote -- G-FAFIF5Top right5BottomJoe Frazier -- G-FAFIF6Top leftRon Hodges -- DocTee6Middle (with bat)Bruce Boisclair -- G-FAFIF6Top right6Bottom leftLee Mazzilli -- G-FAFIF6Bottom right (same as Sec 5, top right)7Mike Vail -- G-FAFIF 2 more G-FAFIF wrongs (6 total)

Zvon wrote: 7= *crosses fingers* Buzz Capra? 7 was correctly identified as Mike Vail (G-FAFIF)

G-Fafif wrote: I'm going to stop obsessing on Leo Foster now. Top section 3 I THINK was identified in the Post as "Brown," as presumably Leon Brown, which I remember thinking "he probably means Leo Foster, but Rigby's Australian, what does he know?" Anyway, Top Section 3: Leon Brown. Get outta town, Brown! Are you saying that you haven't seen this piece in over 30 years but you can still remember the word "Brown" on Leon Brown's cap? Well ... now that you've identified the toughest Met on the glass to ID, you might as well jump ahead to the subjective trivia question. Brown's the biggest clue.

SectionLocationMet1Top1Bottom leftEd Kranepool -- DocTee1Bottom rightSkip Lockwood -- Zvon2Top left2Top rightNino Espinosa -- G-FAFIF2BottomJohn Stearns -- G-FAFIF3Top3MiddleJohn Milner -- G-FAFIF3Leftmost (with guitar)Bud Harrelson -- Zvon

Section 3 middle: Leo Foster I wouldn't blame you if you blamed it on Rigby, but that's not Leo Foster. Would Leo Foster be swinging a hammer? I didn't see the Ham... JOHN MILNER? Also, was blinded by Rigby's talent and missed the rules. Met-a culpa. According to Rigby. That caricature sucked, didn't it?

Section 3 middle: Leo Foster I wouldn't blame you if you blamed it on Rigby, but that's not Leo Foster. Would Leo Foster be swinging a hammer?

SectionLocationMet1Top1Bottom leftEd Kranepool -- DocTee1Bottom rightSkip Lockwood -- Zvon2Top left2Top rightNino Espinosa -- G-FAFIF2Bottom3Top3Middle3Leftmost (with guitar)Bud Harrelson -- Zvon

batmagadanleadoff wrote: G-Fafif wrote: I remember seeing the original drawing in the Post at the dawn of the 1977 season as well as the mirror version for sale at TSS. Rigby was a horrible artist. The 1977 Mets were a horrible team. This makes more sense than the history related to me by the prior owner. The artwork looked more Postish than Newsish to me, but I deferred to the prior owner's supposed knowledge. I'm beginning to think that this mirror is about as rare as that Christmas gift Ralph Kramden purchased that was made from matchsticks once owned by the Emperor of Japan.

G-Fafif wrote: I remember seeing the original drawing in the Post at the dawn of the 1977 season as well as the mirror version for sale at TSS. Rigby was a horrible artist. The 1977 Mets were a horrible team. This makes more sense than the history related to me by the prior owner. The artwork looked more Postish than Newsish to me, but I deferred to the prior owner's supposed knowledge.

SectionLocationMet1Top1Bottom leftEd Kranepool -- DocTee1Bottom rightSkip Lockwood -- Zvon2Top left2Top right2Bottom3Top3Middle3Leftmost (with guitar)Bud Harrelson -- Zvon

One guess per post. Not one guess per poster. I don't know who the artist it, FK. SectionLocationMet1Top1Bottom leftEd Kranepool -- DocTee1Bottom rightSkip Lockwood -- Zvon2Top left2Top right2Bottom3Top3Middle3Leftmost (with guitar)Bud Harrelson -- Zvon

I fixed the answer grid. SectionLocationMet1Top1Bottom left1Bottom rightSkip Lockwood -- Zvon 2Top left2Top right2Bottom3Top3Middle3Leftmost (with guitar)

SectionLocationMet1Top1Bottom left1Bottom rightSkip Lockwood -- Zvon 2Top left2Top right2Bottom 3Top3Middle3Bottom left 3Bottom right4Top4Middle left 4Middle right4Bottom (furry mustache)5Left5Top Middle5Top right5Bottom6Top left6Middle (with bat)6Top right6Bottom left6Bottom right (same as Sec 5, top right)7

Today is house cleaning and organizing day over here. I was going through some old stuff and came across this piece of Mets memorabilia. I stored it in a box decades ago (with other junk) and then forgot about it until today. Years (and years) ago, the Daily News ran a two-page centerfold caricature of the Mets, and then licensed that caricature for etching onto a glass mirror. The prior owner of this item told me that these glass mirrors were produced in limited quantities and are scarce. I have no idea how accurate that story is, or how rare this glass is. But I own one of these. How many Mets in the glass can you identify? Each Met is identified by last name on his cap, which I blacked out. One guess per post. Subjective trivia question: Which Met or Mets ought to have been included in the caricature, but wasn�t/weren't? Section 1 , Section 2 Section 3 Section 4 Section 5 Section 6 Section 7 SectionLocationMet1Top1Bottom left1Bottom right 2Top left2Top right2Bottom3Top3Middle3Leftmost (with guitar)