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http://amp.si.com/mlb/2018/09/10/new-york-mets-citi-field-jacob-degrom-cy-young

If the Wilpons aren't rooting for a David Wright comeback, this might be one of the few times I'd agree with them -- at least from a business point of view. Nothing personal, David, it's only business. Wright's owed $15M for 2019 and then another $12M for 2020, the last year of his contract. There's no way he'll be a $15M player next season, I don't think. I doubt Wright would even provide $5M worth of value next season. He's gonna suck. And lack the durability to play regularly. And I don't wanna pay a player $27M player to get what I think I'm gonna get from David Wright going forward. This is a cheapskate team with enormous money issues and a Wright comeback will just hurt the Mets even more. Jeez, they're not even re-investing the insurance policy benefits back into the team and they're gonna commit to Frazier and Bruce, two kinda sucky players on the decline at key offensive positions. Ask yourselves this question: If David Wright played for another team, but was the exact same player in every respect, historically, currently and health wise, and the Mets could acquire him in a trade -- all the Mets would have to do is trade away a low level minor-leaguer that has no chance of making it to the majors and pick up Wright's salary, would you want the Mets to make that deal? Or the same hypothetical facts as in the above paragraph where David Wright is on another team but he'd be a free agent after this season? Would you want the Mets to sign him if Wright's price was a two year contract at $15M for 2019 and $12M for 2020? Would youse be starting "Let's Talk about David Wright" threads?

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Ceetar wrote: Centerfield wrote: In the replay it looks like he caught it. If not, that's a neat trick. Almost as neat as the time he got the Mets to give him a 2 year deal and tricked them into thinking it was a bargain. I mean, it was. and he did catch it anyway. If he caught it, he wouldn't have thought he needed to trick the ump, right?

Yeah. This morning, I watched that video. I mean really watched it. Like over and over. And then over. Dissecting it. Stopping it frame by frame at the critical moments. And I couldn't find any conclusive footage that would indisputably support Gelbs's rubber ball claim.

MFS62 wrote: There was a time not too long ago I wanted the Mets to try to get Kemp. Patience is all that is needed. Odds are that with enough passage of time, the Mets will one day acquire Kemp.

That's pretty much how I would've had it off the top of my head --- Dodgers, then Cardinals. There's still a few Dodgers unaccounted for in the top post. The last time I did one of these threads for the Cards, I was able to represent every single Met/Card, an atypical result and quite an accomplishment, if I do say so.

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If he can only play a few games, then he's comprised. And if he's gonna be coddled because he's so fragile that the risk of re injury is greater than normal, then he shouldn't be on the field and the whole thing would be bullshit. Same thing if his skills are so diminished that he'd probably put up Reyes like numbers over a large sample size. It's not fun if he can't play at the major league level. He doesn't have to come back for fans to recognize how great he was and what an impeccable character he's shown throughout his career. Dwight Gooden and Darryl Strawberry also had derailed HOF careers. And Doc's HOF chances once looked much stronger than Wright's.

I just dont get all these posts and all the fuss unless Wright and the Mets think he can not only play a full season, but make positive contributions. All this hoping and waiting so that Wright could take a symbolic at bat for a team that's already eliminated at least spiritually if not mathematically, and the mathematical elimination will come soon enough, guaranteed. Nutso. I'm not rooting against it and if that's what Wright wants I hope he gets it. But so what? It's just a big fucking diversion to make fans forget for a while that the team that plays in the nation's largest market has no shot at signing Bryce Harper or Manny Machado.

seawolf17 wrote: Yeah, this is neat. I kind of love guys who have played for a lot of teams. I thought about trying to get a Matt Stairs card from each of his teams, but I think two of them never made it to cardboard. (Edwin Jackson and Octavio Dotel tied at 13, by the way, and Jackson's only 34, so he'll have the record alone at some point.) Just off the top of my head and without looking anything up, I'd guess that the Met who played for the most teams would be between Dotel, Todd Zeile and LaTroy Hawkins, based on those card threads I used to make. Those three always came up.

Frayed Knot wrote: I don't see where putting an unready player who hasn't played in 2-1/2 year into games is doing the right thing. Wright just played his first full game a couple days ago but then had to sit out two straight games after that because he didn't feel physically up to it. I agree totally. It'd be one thing if Wright could improve to the point that he'd deserve a roster spot on merit, but just to get him back in there for a game or two for sentimental reasons, where he has to be pampered and propped up just to make it through a game because he's as delicate as a hothouse flower doesn't interest me in the least.

MFS62 wrote: Chico Fernandez. He [crossout]led them to the World Series[/crossout] was on the 1956 team. You had to be there. Later Winner, winner! Chico dinner! I think Chico was the last player cut in Spring training from the champeen' 1955 squad.

Piggy was an LA Dodger for three years, but a Brooklyn Dodger for just a few games.

Labine was an LA'er, too.

Aspro was an LA Dodger.

Who is the only MLB player to have played for the Mets and the Brooklyn Dodgers, but not for the Los Angeles Dodgers?

deGrom passed Kershaw, who dropped from 4th to 6th.

Two years ago, Murph lost the batting crown to a guy that played half his games in Coors Field by one point. Last year, Murph lost the batting crown to a Colorado Rockie by 11 points, finishing second both years. In a fair world, Murph should be the two-time defending NL batting champ.

https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/if-you-take-out-june-the-mets-are-one-game-over-500-for-the-season/291150116

Too bad for Jake he doesn't get to pitch against the Mets, like Scherzer and Nola.

degrom is pitching out of his mind this season. He's having a career year and I'm rooting for him as much as anybody. deGrom's about the only thing worth watching Mets-wise at this point of this lost season. But geez, has anybody been following Scherzer? I mean, really following him? deGrom's a star. But Scherzer's on a Hall of Fame trajectory. He's won as many Cy's as Tom Seaver and for all of that, Scherzer's having the best season of his career, statistically. While deGrom is coming off of what's probably the best three game stretch of his season, Scherzer's been even better over that time. So I don't see the problem with TK's comments (which I missed). But if TK's saying that right now, he'd give the Cy to Scherzer over deGrom, I'd agree. And I've figured out the absurdity of pitcher Wins and Losses back when I was a teenager, years before Bill James's Abstract was first published for the masses. There's nothing I don't know today about pitcher Wins and Losses that I didn't already know 40 years ago. So I'm not factoring Scherzer's Wins much. Anyway, this is one hell of a Cy Young battle going on. Scherzer and deGrom are neck and neck and they keep on hurling top notch outings.

Vic Sage wrote: I think Tom Seaver needs to come back and pitch a few frames for the Mets on his own terms. This way, the fans can know how great Seaver was 45 years ago. There's a whole legacy at risk here, otherwise. yeah, because that's the same thing. If we're talking about Wright, I think it is the same thing, at least in this respect: I don't think Wright needs to come back for fans to understand what kind of a player Wright was in his prime.

I think Tom Seaver needs to come back and pitch a few frames for the Mets on his own terms. This way, the fans can know how great Seaver was 45 years ago. There's a whole legacy at risk here, otherwise.

The Mets should extend Reyes and Wright through 2025. And then bring back Delgado. /rolls eyes.