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Edgy MD wrote: Not Tug? I'm going by memory off those Strat cards. Tug's ERA (and ERA+) were clearly better, I see, now that I checked out the stats. But ERA doesn't translate so efficiently on Strat cards. Not as much as WHIP, anyways. Take two pitchers who each allow two singles and a homer in a half inning of work. They'll have given up the same kinds of and same amounts of hits. But the pitcher who allows the homer as his first hit will have given up just one run while the pitcher who yields his homer as the third hit of the half inning will have allowed three runs. But I agree that 40 more innings settles it. But rate wise, Grzenda might've been a tick better. The Mets bullpen duo of Tug and Frisella was hellacious that year, probably the best single season one two punch in relief in franchise history.

Edgy MD wrote: The next best AL reliever that year was a future Met. Came here in the Ike Hampton trade.

SI may have understated Grzenda's case. He may have been the best reliever in the majors that season.

According to the article Grimm linked to, Sports Illustrated named Grzenda 1971's best AL reliever. I knew that from playing that season's Strat-O-Matic set for many years. Unhittable.

=G-Fafif post_id=15900 time=1563132776 user_id=55] Joe Grzenda, 82, threw the last pitch in Washington Senators history and appeared in every third pack of baseball cards I ever bought.

Boy did Derek Jeter fuck up that stadium. Those ads on the outfield walls are just wrong. I know, I know. Youse are thinking that you could say that about any old outfield walls. But Marlins Stadium's walls were different. They weren't designed for ads. Those walls were designed to present as a solid ribbon of uncluttered green going from line to line. Jeter just fucked up the architect's cohesive design vision for that stadium. I wouldnt say the same for Citi Field what with Jeff Wilpon's meddling, is a childish hodgepodge mishmash of mismatched parts.

=kcmets post_id=15618 time=1562789680 user_id=53] I assumed NOB was name or number on back?

I know, I was playin'. Do they wash game worn items or is that frowned upon? By "they", I assume you mean collectors. I think they do frown upon it. Especially because the jersey might have a stain or imperfection that could be matched up with game footage, to further establish the jersey's authenticity. Me, I could care less. I've never bought any memorabilia, calculating what I might resell it for.

Wanna know what else? I own that actual game worn Orosco #61 jersey. When you wear it do people stop you and say, "Yo, whattup with the wrong number?" I never wore it outside. I probably never wore it inside, either.

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: =batmagadanleadoff post_id=15600 time=1562777627 user_id=68] That's the Chicago broadcast, not WOR's. Notice the debris all over the field? That stuff was flying all over the place like a bunch of crazed bees. Windy day in the Windy City. The whole team had NOB's except Orosco, who was given a last minute temporary replacement uniform because his regular #47 was, apparently, not packed. And Mazzilli had no NOB either, for reasons that I don't know for sure but could probably take an educated guess as to why not. I need evidence of this and your theory. And who was that Met fan? I misspoke. He isn't a Mets fan

That's the Chicago broadcast, not WOR's. Notice the debris all over the field? That stuff was flying all over the place like a bunch of crazed bees. Windy day in the Windy City. The whole team had NOB's except Orosco, who was given a last minute temporary replacement uniform because his regular #47 was, apparently, not packed. And Mazzilli had no NOB either, for reasons that I don't know for sure but could probably take an educated guess as to why not. http://mbtn.net/images/orosco61-3.jpg> Buckner looks kinda svelte in this shot. And his left leg regenerated to normal looking, too. And who was that Met fan?

Ooooh! Oooooh! I can answer that. I know the answers. Buckner looks paunchy because it was one of those hellacious windy days that Wrigley is known for. The wind was blowing out that day. Kingman hit a homer that was a mile high popup that, at first, looked like it was gonna land on the pitcher's mound. It carried all the way to straightaway centerfield into the stands. In that screenshot, the wind caught a hold of Buckner's shirt and blew it out, puffing it to billowy fat man dimensions. Buckner's leg looks weird because that's probably an in between frame shot originally recorded on VHS, probably a several generations copy, which was eventually transferred to DVD. Those old VHS in between frame, or freeze frames, often do weird things to the image.

=Centerfield post_id=15508 time=1562681358 user_id=65] In order: 1. Manfred and his fucking ball. As much as I get on the owners, I think nothing has hurt the Mets as much as this crazy, slider-killing ball. deGrom took a step back and has had to adjust by throwing more changeups. It's ruined Noah, Familia and Diaz. Wheeler has taken a hit. Gsellman's sinker has no bite. If those guys were right, we would be around .500 and within striking distance. It's all so stupid. He bitched all winter about speeding up the game, and then introduced this stupid ball that turned baseball into 4 hour slogs.

Alonso had the worst pitcher. This guy's throwing out of the strike zone sidearm breaking balls. Pitching change, please.

Edgy MD wrote: If Mickelmas' regularly occurring flip-flops on the stuff like closer usage are based on policies forced on him, he's gonna have a helluva lot to sing about once he's sprung.... He will. But he won't. Because he wants to continue to work in the game. So he'll keep his mouth shut and be a good soldier just like everybody else lest he ends up on the blacklist. Most everyone keeps their mouths shut. But the insiders all know what goes on. Owners won't hire anyone who badmouthed prior management. The owners still run the game like it's a very exclusive and privileged country club. Which it is.

Edgy MD wrote: If Mickelmas' regularly occurring flip-flops on the stuff like closer usage are based on policies forced on him, he's gonna have a helluva lot to sing about once he's sprung.... He will. But he won't. Because he wants to continue to work in the game. So he'll keep his mouth shut and be a good soldier just like everybody else lest he ends up on the blacklist. Most everyone keeps their mouths shut. But the insiders all know what goes on.

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: From time to time it would have helped this club to have a skipper obsessed with that day's game, though it's not clear how possible that is when the manager willingly or not goes out there with his hands tied behind his back every night "we're only using our closer for the final 3 outs!" until the criticism arrives and it suddenly becomes "now let me demonstrate how we'll use our closer for MORE than 3 outs. Just watch!!" and then... I think generally the Mets given their state are better off with a manager who's good with the media vs. one who's not, and I'd hate if there was a compromise there. A big part of the job is to sell the narrative and explain away the crises when need be and Mickey sucks at that and it doesn't sound like Girardi likes that part of the job. Brodie Press Conference scheduled in Miami Friday. It's crazy that a manager needs to operate like this Crazy, but inevitable. Any manager with the character to stand up to these incompetent tyrants that own the team and stick their beaks in everything wouldn't get hired in the first place. It's all self fulfilling. The problem is systemic and deeply rooted. Its not Callaway. He'll be replaced by somebody just like him Two first place finishes in 31 seasons.

He must be at the game. Otherwise, this thread would've been updated by now.

What's that called when they know what he's about to pitch? Telegraphing? Tipping. As in "pitch tipping" or "he's tipping his pitches ".

Put me down for what the last three posters are talking about, which is what I was gonna write as soon as I read rogers' post. Oh my God! Call the FBI! BVW hung out with some fans in the stands. If BVW gets away with this, next thing you know, BVW might have his wife over for a lunch break. And if that happens, his kids might wanna come over to take in a game and some Shake Shack burgers. Then what? Woe is me.

Edgy MD wrote: I chronologically transposed Cone's two numbers in the list that appears on MBTN (fixed above). Should be Cone wearing 44 in 1988 ASG, 17 in 1992. You see, I noticed this, and I thought, "That sounds completely wrong — reversed, even — but G-FaFiF MUST know what he's talking about, and I just need to get with the program." I know that feeling. Even though, this time, it would've meant two simultaneous 17's what with Keith and all.

https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/1146140380393553923 The bullpen that Brodie put together is back: Wilson, Avilan, Familia return, along with Luis Guillermo. Mazza had one appearance, Saturday, 4 innings, 1 run... and done (for now). "The Mets bullpen is unrecognizable from just a day ago.", tweets Anthony DiComo? The Mets bullpen of a day ago was unrecognizable.

[Youtube]SOdYA2A_QMM Short documentary on Expos 1st game ever, against the Mets at Shea and Expos 1st home game at Jarry Park. Shea footage is from original WOR broadcast. See Tom Seaver on the mound, Amos Otis, Rusty Staub and those Montreal classic powder blue road uniforms. Plus, a Dave Augustine style bizarro homerun where the ball lands on the top of the outfield wall, but doesn't bounce back to the outfielder, instead landing on the other side of the wall, in the bullpen, like it's supposed to.

I noticed the "Jessie" spelling, too, which I've ignored (see my previous post in this thread). I figured "Jessie" was yet another Mets screwup, on top of the first screwup. While it's possible that the Mets finally corrected the misspelling of Hudson's first name after reaching out to him over this death list fuckup, it doesn't make any sense. His name's been spelled without the i for over 50 years. In Mets yearbooks. On his Topps rookie card. What about the contracts Hudson signed? With the Mets. With Topps. If Hudson was signing those contracts with the "i", then how to explain 50 years worth of mispellings without that "i"?

David Wright, 2nd place.