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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=28282 time=1576174487 user_id=68] =Ceetar post_id=28279 time=1576173427 user_id=102] better than a broken record

=Ceetar post_id=28279 time=1576173427 user_id=102] better than a broken record

Sigh.More broken toys for Xmas. What next: Pete Gray?

=Ceetar post_id=28202 time=1576114271 user_id=102] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=28197 time=1576103650 user_id=68] Wacha's slowball is his fastball. Also, the incentive clause is that the Mets'll pay Wacha whatever Gerrit Cole's making if Wacha fans 600 batters in 2020. Plus, the Mets were all set to sign Cole until Sandy Alderson put a gun to Fred's head and threatened to pull the trigger unless the Mets instead signed Wacha. It's Michael Cuddyer all over again. To tell you the truth, the only Mets news I'm looking for these days is stuff about Steve Cohen. And more anecdotes about how much Katz's kids think Jeff Wilpon is a dick. Because that Kaz Matsui story can't possibly be the only one.

Wacha's slowball is his fastball. Also, the incentive clause is that the Mets'll pay Wacha whatever Gerrit Cole's making if Wacha fans 600 batters in 2020. Plus, the Mets were all set to sign Cole until Sandy Alderson put a gun to Fred's head and threatened to pull the trigger unless the Mets instead signed Wacha. It's Michael Cuddyer all over again. To tell you the truth, the only Mets news I'm looking for these days is stuff about Steve Cohen. And more anecdotes about how much Katz's kids think Jeff Wilpon is a dick. Because that Kaz Matsui story can't possibly be the only one.

I wonder what Cole woulda gotten if he'd won two Cy Young awards? (Headline from less than a year ago:) Jacob deGrom's Patience Has Handsomely Paid Off With A Five Year $137.5 Million Contract Extension

I know. Those rankings can surely be picked at, but what metric can't? The rankings serve as a quick reliable source to assess where a pitcher stands. And most of the time, what a pitcher did two or three years ago still matters. One can quibble with whether deGrom really is just the third best pitcher when he's the two-time reigning Cy winner but there's no getting around just how awesome the Nats front end of the rotation was last season.

by what Metric? The Mets top three lined up pretty well. Hell, they were projected to be a better pitching staff last year too. That seems pretty competitive. I went by Bill James's world rankings! http://www.billjamesonline.com/polls_ratings/starting_pitcher_rankings/http://www.billjamesonline.com/polls_ratings/starting_pitcher_rankings/ The Mets top three -deGrom, Wheeler and Syndergaard, were ranked 3, 38 and 39 respectively. Pretty darn good. But the Nats top three were, collectively, all-time world class out of their minds last year -- Scherzer (4), Strasburg (5) and Corbin (9). The Nats third best pitcher would be the staff ace on just about every other team out there. The Nats run differential was about 100 runs better than the Mets. The Mets appear to be a good team. But the goal is to win the highly competitive NL East. And the Mets start the off-season by replacing Wheeler with fringy outfielder Marisnick. And Cano is gonna be a year older while getting most of the PT because Fred Wilpon.

=LWFS post_id=28055 time=1575992006 user_id=84] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=28022 time=1575928219 user_id=68] Maybe the Nats won't regret the contract. Maybe the richest baseball owners have so much goddamn money, more than ever, that maybe they're not running their teams with such a rigid eye on the balance sheet. Maybe some of them just want to win at all costs. Meanwhile, some people here are contorting themselves into triple pretzels trying to convince everybody, against all logic that Jeff Wilpon is either a competent owner or that he doesn't matter to the Mets fate and that Steven Cohen doesn't really want to take over the Mets.

Here we go again. Every Met who sucked last season is gonna be great in 2020. And every Met who was great is gonna be even greater. And no, David Wright won't hit 50 homers next season. Don't be ridiculous. But Yoenis will.

Edgy MD wrote: Meanwhile, some people here are contorting themselves into triple pretzels trying to convince everybody, against all logic that Jeff Wilpon is either a competent owner or that he doesn't matter to the Mets fate and that Steven Cohen doesn't really want to take over the Mets. Don't "some people here," please. It's so easy. Because Syndrrgaard has no idea what Wheeler and Strasburg just got paid and that Steven Cohen and all of his money is coming. I think that just since last week, Syndergaard made another $5M a year by doing nothing.

Maybe the Nats won't regret the contract. Maybe the richest baseball owners have so much goddamn money, more than ever, that maybe they're not running their teams with such a rigid eye on the balance sheet. Maybe some of them just want to win at all costs. Meanwhile, some people here are contorting themselves into triple pretzels trying to convince everybody, against all logic that Jeff Wilpon is either a competent owner or that he doesn't matter to the Mets fate and that Steven Cohen doesn't really want to take over the Mets.

Maybe they won't regret the contract. Maybe the richest baseball owners have so much goddamn money, more than ever, that maybe they're not running their teams with such a rigid eye on the balance sheet. Maybe some of them just want to win at all costs. Meanwhile, some people here are contorting themselves into triple pretzels trying to convince everybody, against all logic that Jeff Wilpon is either a competent owner or that he doesn't matter to the Mets fate and that Steven Cohen doesn't really want to take over the Mets.

2017 Total Mets team set -- Code: Hoosier [fimg=444]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49189392186_3408f91509_c.jpg[/fimg] 2017 Total Mets team set -- Code: Ack [fimg=444]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49189585207_b107efc8b3_c.jpg[/fimg] 2018 Ltd. Mets team set -- Code: A Doll's House [fimg=585]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49189585262_87fb5e90b6_c.jpg[/fimg] 2018 Total Mets team set -- Code: Puppet, Pauper, Pirate, Poet, Pawn, King [fimg=494]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49189392341_83bc86cde1_c.jpg[/fimg] 2018 Total Mets team set -- Code: Holy Curt Gowdy! a/k/a Batman Mets - TV Guide/Batmobile variation [FIMG=555]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49189392381_89be8aa56a_c.jpg[/FIMG] 2018 Total Mets team set -- Code: Holy Curt Gowdy! a/k/a Batman Mets - Willard Mullin/POW! variation [fimg=555]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49188889803_a14372c31e_c.jpg[/fimg]

Oh, I see. Baseball owners are fungible. Lorinda de Roulet shoulda held on to the team, then. She'd be two billion dollars richer and everything else'd be the same.

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=27793 time=1575573282 user_id=68] Boy are these two covers so structurally similar. I gave the slight edge to Polar Bare because the wordplay was better, I thought.

Boy are these two covers so structurally similar. I gave the slight edge to Polar Bare because the wordplay was better, I thought.

Vic Sage wrote: Gilkey had one of the best seasons in Mets history, then played poorly for 1.5 years after that before going to AZ. Players do sometimes get to play after they've stopped being productive because they were productive at one time. Lagares, however, is an example of a guy who got time even though he was NEVER productive. He had a mediocre season (OPS+102) and won a GG in his 2nd year. He then went on to play parts of 5 more years without even achieving mediocrity. The 2 cases are not analogous. There are few cases analogous to Lagares, who was given a long-term deal because of potential that never developed, yet they kept running him out there. I totally agree with your analysis and I even recognized it as I was making the Gilkey analogy in the earlier Lagares post. I made the analogy anyway because to this day, Gilkey's bad Met years still resonate powerfully with me. I remember clamoring really bad for Gilkey's playing time to be reduced as he was sucking in real time. But I get it. Gilkey deserved and got the benefit of the doubt because his 1996 season was too damn good and not so far removed from his decline. And a manager in that situation has the right to believe it's just a temporary slump.

=Ceetar post_id=27779 time=1575572040 user_id=102] I didn't say I wouldn't take Cohen, I said it's impossible to know what a Cohen-run franchise would look like. Hell, we've already seen a rich, 'committed to spending', alpha type owner run a franchise in NY. poorly for the most part. There are richer owners all over baseball, doing worse jobs.

Vic Sage wrote: the other thing we know is that he'll be the richest owner in baseball, with a stated willingness to spend that money on players. I'll take that over the Ponzi-impoverished Wilpons nickel and diming us in the biggest media market in the world. Who wouldn't? Ceetar, that's who. His posts about Cohen have now gone way beyond his other nutty idea that it's distracting to ever talk about the Wilpons. Meanwhile, there's some more breaking news: ESPN is reporting that according to Fred Wilpon, the Mets would've signed both Wheeler and Cole if Sandy Alderson didn't talk the Wilpons out of making those moves.

Vic Sage wrote: Lagares never hit; Gilkey did. The point I was making was about players still getting playing time past their expiration dates. Lagares hasn't fielded like he did in his GG days for a while now. And Gilkey sucked other than in '96.

Vic Sage wrote: Gilkey hit well for the mets. Gilkey had but one good year for the Mets. Granted, it was a tremendously good one good year. But he sucked after that. Like, really sucked. Thus, the Lagares comparison.

=Ceetar post_id=27758 time=1575567376 user_id=102] go ahead, derail the baseball talk with nonsense ownership bathering. This was a reasonable move for a reasonable 5th OFer.

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: So Lagares for Lagares and 2 minor leaguers. Actually Marisnick is like a premium-tier Lagares the "] Hey, it's business as usual in free agency for the BINO (Big Market team in Name Only). We get Marisnick, lose Wheeler and, of course, pass on Cole because we're not allowed to sign the very best players. And Michael Cohen might be, oh my, worse than the Wilpons. We're going to be seeing a lot of each other this off-season, aren't we, Running Gag? As long as the Wilpons continue to Wilpon.

=Ceetar post_id=27748 time=1575566228 user_id=102] finances are all hidden and secret and all. I imagine Katz' kids just want the payout more than they're worried about Jeff, no matter what they think of him.