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Chad ochoseis wrote: Larry Walker away from Coors Field LIFETIME ... .282/.372/.500 Jim Edmonds LIFETIME .284/.376/.527 Moises Alou LIFETIME .303/.369/.516 Rusty Staub LIFETIME ... .279/.362/.431 Joe Torre LIFETIME ... .297/.365/.452 Frank Howard LIFETIME ... .273/.352/.499 John Olerud LIFETIME ... .296/.398/.465 Keith Hernandez LIFETIME ... .296/.384/.436 Sure, Walker's stats are Coors inflated, but when you pull out Coors, you're pulling out his home stats from age 28-36. Those are likely to be the most productive ABs of any slugger's career, Coors or no Coors. A fair comparison would have to remove the age 28-36 home stats for the other players, too. I can understand holding a player's PED use against him. But I don't know if it's fair to penalize a player for the park he played in. That's ridiculous. And no one's "penalizing" anybody in the first place. They're simply making sound numerical adjustments on the indisputable basis that a run generated In Coors Field isn't worth nearly as much as a run generated in any other baseball stadium. Just like someone today making $50K a year doesn't have anything near the buying power Charlie Chaplin had in 1913 on his $10K a year. It's one thing if you think Walker has a HOF case even adjusting for Coors, but to ignore Coors park factors is something else. That would be PENALIZING every non Coors player in a statistical comparison with Walker.

I doubt it would make a meaningful difference. Nobody else played in a home stadium that inflated batting averages by 50, 60, 70 or 80 points.

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=29457 time=1578514347 user_id=68] Larry Walker away from Coors Field LIFETIME ... .282/.372/.500 Jim Edmonds LIFETIME .284/.376/.527 Moises Alou LIFETIME .303/.369/.516 Rusty Staub LIFETIME ... .279/.362/.431 Joe Torre LIFETIME ... .297/.365/.452 Frank Howard LIFETIME ... .273/.352/.499 John Olerud LIFETIME ... .296/.398/.465 Keith Hernandez LIFETIME ... .296/.384/.436

=Ceetar post_id=29455 time=1578513894 user_id=102] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=29454 time=1578513615 user_id=68] =Ceetar post_id=29451 time=1578513461 user_id=102] you're penalized away from Coors after you play there.

Larry Walker away from Coors Field LIFETIME ... .282/.372/.500 Jim Edmonds LIFETIME .284/.376/.527 Moises Alou LIFETIME .303/.369/.516 Rusty Staub LIFETIME ... .279/.362/.431 Joe Torre LIFETIME ... .297/.365/.452 Frank Howard LIFETIME ... .273/.352/.499 John Olerud LIFETIME ... .296/.398/.465 Keith Hernandez LIFETIME ... .296/.384/.436

=Ceetar post_id=29451 time=1578513461 user_id=102] you're penalized away from Coors after you play there.

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=29450 time=1578513369 user_id=68] Larry Walker away from Coors Field ... .282/.372/.500 Larry Walker at the ridiculous pre-humidor Coors Field LIFETIME... .381/.462/.710

Larry Walker away from Coors Field ... .282/.372/.500 Larry Walker at the ridiculous pre-humidor Coors Field LIFETIME... .381/.462/.710

Mets gotta represent. Citizens! Kick off the New Year with this (Latin American market only -- test issue) Batman all-star card featuring the whole Mets contingent. Pow! https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49340736198_f3745f3d40_c.jpg>

Edgy MD wrote: And that's why it's called creep.... I know. And hey, even the Yankees have to swoosh. https://uni-watch.com/2019/06/06/exclusive-first-look-at-nikes-2020-mlb-jerseys/https://uni-watch.com/2019/06/06/exclusive-first-look-at-nikes-2020-mlb-jerseys/

This was inevitable. And not new. New Era's logo has been appearing on MLB caps since the 2016 playoffs. https://uni-watch.com/new-era-logo-faq/https://uni-watch.com/new-era-logo-faq/

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: How about the resplendent free agent acquisition, Anthony Swarzak The 2018 Anthony Swarzak collection: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49325026502_d3a9970077_c.jpg> https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49324328348_92d850807c_c.jpg>

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: =batmagadanleadoff post_id=29229 time=1578083349 user_id=68] That's what I'd be listening to in 1973 if I had older tastes. How'd you know that? I read the book!

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So our boy in Tulsa AAA is one uptight dude on the inside, taking the game home with him every night and working his mind every which way over the finest details -- agonizing over pretty much everything. He needs a relaxer. And he discovers one. As fate would have it, his roommate has access to the finest pot Keith would ever smoke in his life. A coupl'a hits of this stuff and Keith's suddenly in nirvana. And that's what Keith does to mellow out. A few hits, laid out on the living room carpet and listening straight through an album side of his favorite rock and roll album to mellow out to. What album does Keith mellow out to in AAA?

Edgy MD wrote: Whose card has The Archer appeared on. He was a personal favorite. Edgy MD wrote: Whose card has The Archer appeared on. He was a personal favorite. That's Ruben Tejada's unreleased card. Edgy MD wrote: Poor Archer — stuck in the back of the line behind Chief Standing Pat. Slow day for baseball, huh? Happy New Year! https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49319089768_201599fea3_c.jpg>

Frayed Knot wrote: Every baseball team makes tons of money each year. This statement: "... it is now being reported that the Mets have lost more than $100M dollars over the last two seasons.", suggests otherwise. You can choose to believe either side, I don't care. I'm just not taking either one of them as a definitive statement of fact. The Wilpons bought out Doubleday's 50% interest for $135 million in 2002, meaning the franchise was valued at $270 million. They are now selling to Steven Cohen with a valuation of $2.6 billion. That doesn't happen to businesses that lose $100 million over two years. Sure it can. It's baseball. So maybe the Mets were valued on how much money they'd generate when run properly. Also, there's only 30 teams and a team is up for sale once every coupl'a years. So maybe a buyer like Cohen will pay a premium just to get to own the team. This is a once in a lifetime chance to own the Mets. If Cohen's worth what's being reported, he can afford to lose $50M on the Mets every year for the rest of his life if he lives to be a thousand years old. $50M to Cohen is like dinner for four at a nice restaurant for any regular person. Even less, because when you have more than $10 billion, you have money you don't really need. You can't analyze these transactions through the eyes of a regular person. Or even a regular rich person. These are masters of the universe.

Frayed Knot wrote: https://nypost.com/2019/12/28/the-evidence-yoenis-cespedes-could-make-mets-comeback-valuable/Jose Sherman talks about players who have had big HR years following a long amount of missed time -- for suspensions, for retirements, for injuries -- as a basis of comparison to what Cespedes is trying to do (and is already talking about doing). Also, Tony Conigliaro came back after missing a season and a half to hit 20 and then 36 HR's in his first seasons back from his famous beaming. Tony was a lot younger, though.

The Forbes article cites "baseball insiders." Not sure what that means. I also think it's more likely that the Wilpons are that deeply in debt than the team is, unless the stadium has been a far bigger money-suck than we know about. I've seen no evidence that team revenues are bad enough to cause that kind of issue, especially with payroll being relatively low. I'd bet that the answer isn't so straightforward because the Wilpons have complicated their already very complex holdings by intermingling their real estate portfolio with the NY Mets. We know, for example, that the Wilpons have been using Mets revenue to pay back their Madoff debt. Also, it is now being reported that the Mets have lost more than $100M dollars over the last two seasons. Lefty Specialist wrote: Steve Cohen didn't get where he is by being an idiot. I'm betting he'll be pulling the strings earlier than the Wilpons may want him to. Absolutely. And if Cohen senses that this is just a scam ploy so that the Wilpons could hang in there for a few more years, buying time in hopes that a miracle will occur in the meantime that would let the Wilpons keep the team long term, Cohen will simply pull out. This is essentially what the Wilpons tried to pull on Einhorn a few years ago.

It might not be just Katz's kids forcing the Wilpons to give up the Mets. It might also be that the Wilpons have reached a point where they can no longer afford to run the Mets and thus, must sell the team, no matter what Katz's kids think of Jeff Wilpon. Also, look out for some possible sneaky Fred Wilpon tactics to screw Steven Cohen into investing in the Mets without ever becoming a controlling owner. Although, if the press figured out this sneak tactic, then Cohen has to know about it also. The New York Mets are $350 million in debt (Report) By Kyle Newman - 12/23/2019 The Wilpons are in desperate need of a sale. The New York Mets' bottom line is too far in the red for them to hold onto the team any longer. According to Mike Ozanian of Forbes, the New York Mets are $350 million in debt. That's terrible news for everyone involved, except Steve Cohen. The massive debt means that Fred Wilpon and Jeff Wilpon are going to be forced to sell the team. The Wilpon family is only worth a reported $500 million according to an earlier Forbes report. They simply don't have the capital to run the team anymore. That explains why they've been so hesitant to add payroll for a long time. They simply can't afford to. To be honest, this isn't surprising. In 2011, the New York Times broke a story that the MLB paid the Mets $25 million in secret so they could afford payroll. By rule, when that happens, the MLB should've forced the Wilpons to sell. Nonetheless, they didn't. A close relationship with former MLB commissioner Bud Selig saved them. Now, Ozanian is reporting that Cohen could end up paying $1.5 billion and never have control of the team. He reports that in the current incarnation of talks, Cohen will have 75% control of the team immediately after the purchase. As a condition of the purchase, the Wilpons will stay controlling owners for another five years. This is different from previous reports that said the Wilpons would simply maintain their respective titles for five years. It's an important distinction too. Under MLB rules, Cohen wouldn't need to swear in by the other owners if he isn't the controlling owner. This means that the Wilpons would have five years to convince the other owners that Cohen doesn't deserve to be the controlling owner. That could lead to Cohen cutting a $1.5 billion check and never receiving control of the team. It seems unlikely now, but the Wilpons have always been sneaky businessmen. They tanked two other deals to sell the team in the past, according to Howard Megdal of Forbes. Cohen may end up the majority owner bankrolling the team with no control. It's unlikely a strong businessman like Cohen would risk his money in this way. That being said, this is a scenario that can't be overlooked. Mets fans could be stuck with the Wilpons for years to come, even if a sale does come to pass. https://elitesportsny.com/2019/12/23/new-york-mets-news-organization-is-350-million-in-debt-report/https://elitesportsny.com/2019/12/23/new-york-mets-news-organization-is-350-million-in-debt-report/ Here's the link to the underlying Forbes piece: https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2019/12/14/why-steve-cohen-may-write-15-billion-check-for-mets-and-never-gain-control/#6e9751306adehttps://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2019/12/14/why-steve-cohen-may-write-15-billion-check-for-mets-and-never-gain-control/#6e9751306ade

This wasn't a qualitative assessment. This is a team that can't operate like the big market team that it is and its owners should've been run out of town years ago. Still not enough outrage over Wacha and Porcello. Maybe they'll make some unanticipated signings with the newfound Cespedes money. But what's likelier to happen is that a month or two from now, after everyone's signed up and there aren't any FA's left to sign, eff Wilpon will claim that BVW could've spent whatever he wanted to spend all along without restrictions. It'll be the same bullshit story running for over a decade now. Steve Cohen can't get here fast enough.

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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: It's meant to be hard to look at! If this is the end for FR, it should be in the running for the "Audience Choice Spirit of Tabloids Award" which makes a charitable donation in the name of the tab cover that best illustrates the absurdity of devoting entire pages to sports and athletes. I dunno. The cover that's in the lead after the first coupl'a hours of the round usually wins the head-to-head. I don't recall too many derby come from behinds, if any. Not when a cover is down by three or four votes, anyways. Hey! Wait a second! Didn't Folly Rancher come from like three or four votes behind to win in the last round?

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: It's meant to be hard to look at! If this is the end for FR, it should be in the running for the "Audience Choice Spirit of Tabloids Award" which makes a charitable donation in the name of the tab cover that best illustrates the absurdity of devoting entire pages to sports and athletes. I dunno. The cover that's in the lead after the first coupl'a hours of the round usually wins the head-to-head. I don't recall too many derby come from behinds, if any. Not when a cover is down by three or four votes, anyways.