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IGT Mets at Orioles June 9 2021 7:05 PM
batmagadanleadoff replied to Fman99's topic in Archived Game Threads
Conforto who? -
IGT Mets at Orioles June 9 2021 7:05 PM
batmagadanleadoff replied to Fman99's topic in Archived Game Threads
Harvey hasn't been the Dark Knight for more than half a decade. -
A Foreign (Substance) Affair
batmagadanleadoff replied to Benjamin Grimm's topic in New York Mets Talk
https://twitter.com/AndrewMarchand/status/1402383385239109637?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1402383385239109637%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmetsmerizedonline.com%2F2021%2F06%2Fmorning-briefing-ron-darling-among-three-inducted-to-mets-hall-of-fame.html%2Fhttps://twitter.com/AndrewMarchand/status/1402383385239109637?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1402383385239109637%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmetsmerizedonline.com%2F2021%2F06%2Fmorning-briefing-ron-darling-among-three-inducted-to-mets-hall-of-fame.html%2F Cole's answer is absolutely awful. Yankees comms team should have anticipated that question was coming -- there was no way it was not coming -- and worked with him on a better answer than silence, stammering and a word salad. What's there to be coached? Either Cole used Spider Tack or some similar sticky substance or he didn't. What? You're gonna teach Cole to pivot? And then what? So when Cole, thanks to you, pivots and changes the subject to Julie Andrews' performance in Mary Poppins, that's gonna fool everybody into forgetting they asked Cole about his use of Spider Tack in the first place? The big travesty in that Cole interview wasn't even Cole's answer -- he answered the question, if in an unintended and clumsy way. The travesty was the media's own questioning. Where was the follow-up? "Why can't you answer this question?" "Why do you find it hard to answer this question?" "What is it about this question that you don't understand? We'd be glad to elaborate or explain whatever you don't undestand." "Do you realize that your answer about prior generations of players handing down new traditions and techniques to your generation of players doesn't answer our previous question -- that is, did you yourself ever use Spider Tack?" -
NYM@BALT - 6/8/21 is d-Day +3 - IGT
batmagadanleadoff replied to batmagadanleadoff's topic in Archived Game Threads
Benjamin Grimm wrote: My first thought was Eddie Murray. I looked it up. Torre is correct. Murray is not and neither is Mays. The second correct answer is one I would not have guessed. I'll go with a pitcher. Warren Spahn. A dollar short. -
NYM@BALT - 6/8/21 is d-Day +3 - IGT
batmagadanleadoff replied to batmagadanleadoff's topic in Archived Game Threads
Benjamin Grimm wrote: My first thought was Eddie Murray. I looked it up. Torre is correct. Murray is not and neither is Mays. The second correct answer is one I would not have guessed. I'll go with a pitcher. Warren Spahn. -
NYM@BALT - 6/8/21 is d-Day +3 - IGT
batmagadanleadoff replied to batmagadanleadoff's topic in Archived Game Threads
=kcmets post_id=67298 time=1623196708 user_id=53] Every angle they showed he was out. Not outraged, just shaking my head that it took five minutes to GET IT WRONG. -
NYM@BALT - 6/8/21 is d-Day +3 - IGT
batmagadanleadoff replied to batmagadanleadoff's topic in Archived Game Threads
Frayed Knot wrote: I didn't see that call at 1st to be as cut and dried as G & R did. Now it still took them ridiculously long to decide on it, but I think the time to decide on the call was worse than the call itself. Totally agree. I have no fucking idea what the booth is going on and on and on about with all that outrage about what a supposedly bad call that was. I dont see the indisputable evidence, or any evidence at all that the runner was clearly out. -
A Foreign (Substance) Affair
batmagadanleadoff replied to Benjamin Grimm's topic in New York Mets Talk
Edgy MD wrote: I certainly heard Gelbs report that Hefner thinks his curve is terrific. But he's thrown two of them all season (at least, as far as I've seen). They've both been beautiful, but I hesitate to think it's widely considered anything. My mistake. "... one of the best". -
A Foreign (Substance) Affair
batmagadanleadoff replied to Benjamin Grimm's topic in New York Mets Talk
=Ceetar post_id=67268 time=1623179062 user_id=102] 3. he threw 30 last year (only 4 to righties) 87 in 2019, and 252 in 2018 -
A Foreign (Substance) Affair
batmagadanleadoff replied to Benjamin Grimm's topic in New York Mets Talk
Jacob deGrom spin rates: 2021 slider - 2600 2020 slider - 2565 2019 slider - 2455 2018 slider - 2497 2017 slider - 2453 2016 slider - 2414 2021 curve- 2724 2020 curve- 2632 2019 curve- 2569 2018 curve- 2563 2017 curve- 2549 2016 curve- 2432 Not sure what to make of this. A pitcher can increase his spin rate simply by increasing the velocity of his pitches, which deGrom has measurably done. Also, I haven't compared these numbers to those of other pitchers, to get a sense of where deGrom's spin rates rate. My hunch is that deGrom is throwing a clean baseball. He's too damn good -- pitching in a world of his own -- and if he was suspected of stickying up the baseball while pitching at the level he's pitching at, we'd be hearing a lot of rumors and accusations, and from baseball insiders, not just from one fan on instagram or twitter or whatever social media platform. Anyways, here's the link to the site for spin rates. There's an enormous amount of data here. https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/jacob-degrom-594798?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlbhttps://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/jacob-degrom-594798?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb -
A bWAR of 15.2 is mind boggling because only one player in all of baseball history (Babe Ruth, 1923) ever had a bWAR higher than 13.0. I should've clarified: Ruth ('23) is the only player to have a bWAR higher than 13.0 in the modern era. Walter Johnson had a bWAR of 13.2 in 1912 -- the deadball ERA. And many pitchers had 14+ bWARs in the 1800's pre deadball era. ________________ Sandy and Cohen said they weren't going to spend like drunken sailors on free agents older than 30. I would give this statement zero weight or credibility. The Mets would make this statement if it were true, but also, if it were false. The Mets wouldn't telegraph their intentions to spend "like drunken sailors".
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I read this great anecdote about Steven Cohen recently. I don't remember where I read it but I'm certain that I read it in the last two or three months. It goes something like this (I'm probably improvising a little): Cohen was in a bidding war with another potential buyer for a piece of property -- some expensive luxury home. And the other buyer was outgunned -- Cohen would just constantly raise his bid for the property. Finally, the other buyer ended up practically begging Cohen to back off. In the end the other buyer offered Cohen one million dollars to walk away from the property. One million dollars just to not bid on the property. And Cohen's response was: "What the hell am I gonna do with a million dollars?"
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Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Art appreciates far more readily than player contracts. I don't think the evidence is in to support Cohen's desire to spend more profligately than any owner in history. Among other things, he hasn't bought out deGrom's out yet. He's only been here for one off-season. Indeed. I would offer the same statement. I mean, your declaration is far more conclusive than my own, right? Maybe. But Cohen's on a different level. There's no way the Mets are worth $2.6B -- not based on any categories that could be measured accurately. Cohen would've paid $2.8B for the Mets, if that's what would've been required to close the deal, I believe. Or $3B. Or $3.5B. This is monopoly money and ego - psychic value to Cohen. We live in a world where increasingly, the money supply is winding up in the hands of less and less people -- and the people at the top of that triangle have unfathomable wealth. There's only 30 baseball teams and it's not as if they're all up for sale every single year. Cohen's not valuing the Mets the way your accountant would value for you, the corner fruit and vegetables store that you're considering buying. I suppose Cohen has boundaries and limits on what he's willing to invest in the Mets, but I think that they're very flexible, and also, hardly calculated the way a conventional owner of a conventional business would calculate his budget. Anyways, I guess we'll have to wait and see if some other team outspends the Mets to nab a deGrom that's still worth having in the near future
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Edgy MD wrote: My greater concern is that (a) his contract has an opt-out after 2022, and ( his agent is presumably not an idiot. I don't know if it's kontract kosher, but maybe in the offseason Uncle Steve can pull them aside and offer a lump-sum check to get them to amend the contract to remove the opt-out clause. He may not want to leave anyways, and a $20-30 million bonus might work. Maybe it's a wild-ass-kontract thought but I suppose it's also silly to worry about such things while his arm could fall off at anytime between now and then. Steve Cohen is baseball's wealthiest owner. He buys $80M art sculptures. He could spend $30 or $40M like you could buy yourself a Big Mac and a coke. deGrom ain't going anywhere and this isn't even a speck of an issue. He aint' letting deGrom walk just like he wouldn''t have let Seaver get away if he owned the Mets in '77 and was as rich then as he is now. Cohen's on another level. This is mostly ego and pride and monopoly money to him. He's not running the Mets on pure business principles where revenues and expenses are just about the only things that count. But knock yourselves out counting Cohen's beans with your figurative abacuses, one bean at a time.
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Edgy MD wrote: Despite the lost innings, he can add (and has added) to his WAR levels with his bat. That's already built in to my post. I used the version of bWAR that also includes a pitcher's fielding and hitting. And t's not just deGrom's microscopic ERA and run prevention that's putting his season on such a historic trajectory. deGrom's retiring batters at an all-time historic pace. Batters are rarely even getting on base against him this season. The all-time WHIP record is 0.737 held by Pedro Martinez in 2000. deGrom's 2021 WHIP is 0.569.
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=batmagadanleadoff post_id=67154 time=1623082866 user_id=68] The modern single season record for pitcher bWAR belongs to Dwight Gooden (1985) - 12.2. Dwight needed to pitch 276.2 innings in '85 to accumulate that 12.2 bWAR. deGrom won't come anywhere close to pitching 276.2 innings in 2021, but if he did, at his 2021 rate , he'd finish the season with a mind boggling bWAR of 15.2!
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah I think that's it Not much of a funny joke then, d'ya agree? I think that the problem with Gallo's cartoon, for me anyways, is that when I first saw it, my Mets-centric perspective kicked in and I saw Bertha as a Mets fan only. So I wondered why she'd wanna watch the Yanks. But then I remembered that Bertha is a fan of both NY teams (I think).
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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah I think that's it Not much of a funny joke then, d'ya agree?
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Mets @ Orioles - Tuesday, 6/8/21, 7:05PM ET David Peterson v. Bruce Zimmerman
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deGrom's allowing 3.9 hits per nine innings and striking out 14.4 batters per nine innings -- major league all-time records should those rates hold over the rest of the season. deGrom's ERA (0.62) is about half of Gibson's 1968 single season modern ERA record of 1.12. deGrom's Adjusted ERA (ERA+) is 623. Here's some historical perspective and context for deGrom's 2021 ERA+: deGrom (2021) - 623 Gooden (1985) - 229 Gibson (1968) - 258 Martinez (2000) - 291 Keefe (1880) - 293 -All-time single season ERA+ record. The modern single season record for pitcher bWAR belongs to Dwight Gooden (1985) - 12.2. Dwight needed to pitch 276.2 innings in '85 to accumulate that 12.2 bWAR. deGrom won't come anywhere close to pitching 276.2 innings in 2021, but if he did, at his 2021 rate , he'd finish the season with a mind boggling bWAR of 15.2! Jacob deGrom is breaking baseball in 2021. He's having the pitching equivalent season of a batter hitting 80HR's, driving in 200 runs and on-basing about .600. If deGrom were to maintain this pace over the rest of the season --- a huge if --- and was then denied the MVP award because his Mets didn't finish in first place -- or for any reason, really - well that would be the biggest travesty in the history of MVP voting.
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Benjamin Grimm wrote: This really wasn't supposed to be about the race at Aqueduct, but whatever! I have to wonder, though, what's the deal with Basement Bertha demanding to watch the Yankee game? Is she just being a troll? I also kept wondering about that joke. I'm not sure I get it, either. Is the gag that she's Basement Bertha and that she prefers rooting for last place teams, which the Mets, historically, usually were?
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More fun with Jacob deGrom stats: Divide deGrom's innings pitched in 2021 by the number of earned runs he's allowed this season (IP/ER) - which in deGrom's case is 58/4. This comes out to 14.5 -- so deGrom's on a current pace where he's allowing one earned run every 14.5 innings. So if deGrom allows one earned run in one inning, he has to pitch 13 and a half scoreless innings to maintain his current ERA of 0.62.
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Benjamin Grimm wrote: I was twenty years old when the trade was made, and I knew very well who Keith Hernandez was. I don't think I thought of him as a future Hall-of-Famer (if I did, I apparently would have been wrong) but I knew he was an All-Star, a Gold Glove, and a former MVP. He played in the same division as the Mets. Even now, when I pay much less attention than I did in 1983, I still know the names of the star players on the other teams in the NL East. This is pretty much me, too, all the way down the line. I damn sure knew who Keith Hernandez was in June of '83 and I thought he was a star back then.
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deGrom Day was d-Day. And on d-Day +1, let's honor the memory of those veterans, dead and alive, who stormed the beaches of Normandy 77 years ago today, to save democracy and the world. And a happy 77th to Bud "Twiggy" Harrelson. Marcus Stroman v Chris Paddack, 4:10PM, EST.

