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Edgy MD wrote: If the Nats are moving a guy for the last two months of his contract, I don't think they would care much about a division rival being the recipient if that's where the best deal is. Folks make selloff trades to division rivals all the time. I'm not advocating, though. I wouldn't rule it out either, but the Mets are gonna have to pay a premium for Scherzer. Money, they have coming out the wazoo ... but Scherzer's not a FA. The Mets are gonna have to pay with personnel. Doesn't look likely.

Don't count on the Nats trading Scherzer to a division rival. Also, everybody could use another pitcher, so expect a seller's market.

Wins Above Replacement--all 1. deGrom • NYM 4.5 2. Wheeler • PHI 4.5 3. Gausman • SFG 3.9 4. Woodruff • MIL 3.6 5. Tatis • SDP 3.4 6. Muncy • LAD 3.3 7. Cronenworth • SDP 3.2 8. Miley • CIN 3.1 9. Reynolds • PIT 3.0 10. Acuna • ATL 2.9 WAR for Pitchers 1. Wheeler • PHI 4.3 2. deGrom • NYM 3.9 3. Gausman • SFG 3.9 4. Woodruff • MIL 3.8 5. Miley • CIN 3.0 6. Rogers • MIA 2.8 7. Peralta • MIL 2.8 8. Buehler • LAD 2.7 9. Bauer • LAD 2.6 10. Anderson • ATL 2.5 Earned Run Average 1. deGrom • NYM 0.50 2. Gausman • SFG 1.51 3. Rogers • MIA 1.87 4. Woodruff • MIL 1.94 5. Wheeler • PHI 2.15 6. Scherzer • WSN 2.21 7. Musgrove • SDP 2.28 8. Peralta • MIL 2.28 9. Stroman • NYM 2.35 10. Buehler • LAD 2.38 Wins 1. Urias • LAD 9 Hendricks • CHC 9 3. Suter • MIL 8 Flaherty • STL 8 Gausman • SFG 8 Kershaw • LAD 8 7. deGrom • NYM 7 DeSclafani • SFG 7 Bauer • LAD 7 Rogers • MIA 7 Mahle • CIN 7 Buehler • LAD 7 Darvish • SDP 7 Win-Loss % 1. Gausman • SFG .889 Flaherty • STL .889 3. DeSclafani • SFG .778 Darvish • SDP .778 Mahle • CIN .778 deGrom • NYM .778 7. Urias • LAD .750 Peralta • MIL .750 9. Suter • MIL .727 10. Rogers • MIA .700 Walks & Hits per IP 1. deGrom • NYM 0.514 2. Woodruff • MIL 0.761 3. Gausman • SFG 0.770 4. Scherzer • WSN 0.815 5. Musgrove • SDP 0.848 6. Peralta • MIL 0.867 7. Buehler • LAD 0.904 8. Darvish • SDP 0.922 9. Wheeler • PHI 0.934 10. Bauer • LAD 0.941 Hits per 9 IP 1. deGrom • NYM 3.375 2. Peralta • MIL 4.320 3. Woodruff • MIL 4.909 4. Gausman • SFG 5.019 5. Bauer • LAD 5.456 6. Scherzer • WSN 5.586 7. Musgrove • SDP 5.696 8. Darvish • SDP 6.100 9. Buehler • LAD 6.254 10. Rogers • MIA 6.282 Bases On Balls per 9 IP 1. Eflin • PHI 1.071 2. deGrom • NYM 1.250 3. Kershaw • LAD 1.528 4. Urias • LAD 1.739 5. Scherzer • WSN 1.746 6. Buehler • LAD 1.886 7. Hendricks • CHC 1.897 8. Gausman • SFG 1.907 9. Musgrove • SDP 1.937 10. Woodruff • MIL 1.943 Strikeouts per 9 IP 1. deGrom • NYM 14.625 2. Peralta • MIL 12.480 3. Scherzer • WSN 12.103 4. Mahle • CIN 11.260 5. Bauer • LAD 11.195 6. Musgrove • SDP 11.165 7. Wheeler • PHI 11.024 8. Darvish • SDP 10.800 9. Kershaw • LAD 10.596 10. Rogers • MIA 10.469 Innings Pitched 1. Wheeler • PHI 96.1 2. Bauer • LAD 95.2 3. Alcantara • MIA 93.1 4. Buehler • LAD 90.2 5. Darvish • SDP 90.0 6. Gausman • SFG 89.2 7. Kershaw • LAD 88.1 8. Urias • LAD 88.0 Woodruff • MIL 88.0 10. Wainwright • STL 86.2 . . . deGrom • NYM 72 Strikeouts 1. Bauer • LAD 119 2. Wheeler • PHI 118 3. deGrom • NYM 117 4. Burnes • MIL 108 Darvish • SDP 108 6. Peralta • MIL 104 Scherzer • WSN 104 Kershaw • LAD 104 9. Gausman • SFG 103 10. Woodruff • MIL 102 Strikeouts / Base On Balls 1. deGrom • NYM 11.700 2. Eflin • PHI 8.300 3. Scherzer • WSN 6.933 Kershaw • LAD 6.933 5. Musgrove • SDP 5.765 6. Urias • LAD 5.588 7. Gausman • SFG 5.421 8. Woodruff • MIL 5.368 9. Wheeler • PHI 5.364 10. Darvish • SDP 4.909 Home Runs per 9 IP 1. deGrom • NYM 0.375 2. Rogers • MIA 0.441 3. Gausman • SFG 0.602 4. Walker • NYM 0.605 5. Wheeler • PHI 0.654 6. Marquez • COL 0.656 7. Anderson • ATL 0.714 8. Davies • CHC 0.736 9. Alcantara • MIA 0.771 10. Woodruff • MIL 0.8 Adjusted ERA+ 1. deGrom • NYM 777 2. Gausman • SFG 263 3. Rogers • MIA 216 4. Woodruff • MIL 210 5. Wheeler • PHI 182 6. Peralta • MIL 179 7. Scherzer • WSN 172 8. Stroman • NYM 165 9. Musgrove • SDP 162 10. Walker • NYM 160 Fielding Independent Pitching 1. deGrom • NYM 0.87 2. Gausman • SFG 2.37 3. Wheeler • PHI 2.44 4. Rogers • MIA 2.50 5. Kershaw • LAD 2.75 6. Woodruff • MIL 2.78 7. Peralta • MIL 2.89 8. Walker • NYM 3.02 9. Scherzer • WSN 3.06 10. Musgrove • SDP 3.1 Adj. Pitching Runs 1. deGrom • NYM 27 2. Gausman • SFG 25 3. Woodruff • MIL 21 4. Wheeler • PHI 20 5. Rogers • MIA 19 6. Buehler • LAD 16 7. Peralta • MIL 16 8. Scherzer • WSN 15 9. Bauer • LAD 14 10. Musgrove • SDP 14 Adj. Pitching Wins 1. deGrom • NYM 3.1 2. Gausman • SFG 2.8 3. Woodruff • MIL 2.3 4. Wheeler • PHI 2.2 5. Rogers • MIA 2.1 6. Buehler • LAD 1.7 7. Peralta • MIL 1.7 8. Scherzer • WSN 1.6 9. Bauer • LAD 1.5 10. Musgrove • SDP 1.5 Base-Out Runs Saved (RE24) 1. deGrom • NYM 28.33 2. Gausman • SFG 27.05 3. Woodruff • MIL 26.07 4. Wheeler • PHI 24.61 5. Buehler • LAD 22.63 6. Rogers • MIA 20.98 7. Peralta • MIL 19.74 8. Scherzer • WSN 18.50 9. Bauer • LAD 16.55 10. Musgrove • SDP 16.35 Win Probability Added (WPA) 1. Hader • MIL 3.3 2. deGrom • NYM 2.9 3. Woodruff • MIL 2.9 4. Wheeler • PHI 2.7 5. Gausman • SFG 2.6 6. Tepera • CHC 2.3 7. Kimbrel • CHC 2.3 8. Rogers • MIA 2.2 9. Antone • CIN 2.1 10. Melancon • SDP 2.1 Sit. Wins Saved (WPA/LI) 1. deGrom • NYM 3.2 2. Gausman • SFG 2.7 3. Woodruff • MIL 2.7 4. Wheeler • PHI 2.4 5. Peralta • MIL 2.4 6. Rogers • MIA 2.1 7. Scherzer • WSN 2.1 8. Bauer • LAD 1.8 9. Buehler • LAD 1.7 10. Musgrove • SDP 1.6 Championship WPA (cWPA) 1. Hader • MIL 2.4 2. deGrom • NYM 2.3 3. Woodruff • MIL 2.0 4. Tepera • CHC 1.7 5. Kimbrel • CHC 1.7 6. Gausman • SFG 1.7 7. Buehler • LAD 1.5 8. Melancon • SDP 1.5 9. Wheeler • PHI 1.5 10. Stroman • NYM 1.4 Base-Out Wins Saved (REW) 1. deGrom • NYM 3.4 2. Gausman • SFG 3.1 3. Woodruff • MIL 2.9 4. Wheeler • PHI 2.8 5. Buehler • LAD 2.6 6. Rogers • MIA 2.3 7. Peralta • MIL 2.2 8. Scherzer • WSN 2.1 9. Musgrove • SDP 1.9 10. Bauer • LAD 1.8 https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL/2021-pitching-leaders.shtmlhttps://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL/2021-pitching-leaders.shtml

Is there a Mets injury thread? Because if there isn't, there should be. Just when he was getting real good, Joey Lucchesi suffers a UCL tear. He'll probably need the ol' Tommy John. See ya' in 2023.

The NY Post is publishing about a million articls a day calling for deGrom to be IL'ed. Mets would take huge Jacob deGrom risk by ignoring common sense Excerpt: I don't believe it. I refuse to buy into the notion that Jacob deGrom, after departing each of his past two starts with two different arm injuries, will take the mound again Monday against the Braves at Citi Field and act as though everything is fine. As though the third time will be the charm. https://nypost.com/2021/06/17/mets-cant-ignore-common-sense-jacob-degrom-injury-choice/https://nypost.com/2021/06/17/mets-cant-ignore-common-sense-jacob-degrom-injury-choice/

Trump had nothing to do with the Tuskegee experiments, the distrust of government amongst blacks in particular on the issue of vaccination/medical treatment is not Trump related, but i'm sure it makes you feel good to blame him for everything. Trump had nothing to do with the Tuskegee experiments but are you defending Trump's covid response, which was the absolute worst in the advanced world? Or did you forget about let's see if we can all ingest some bleach, the mask shaming, the fuck NY and its covid problem because NY is a blue state, the total lack of a coordinated national covid response, Jared in charge, Jared!, etc., etc., etc. Or maybe you're defending his stance against immigrants. I don't need to go there. [FIMG=333]https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5f9c1445d070eec8d50f0fce/master/pass/Miller10.30.jpg[/FIMG] ________________________ Opinion: Black people are justifiably wary of a vaccine. Their trust must be earned. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/black-people-are-justifiably-wary-of-a-vaccine-their-trust-must-be-earned/2020/12/09/4cf5f18c-3a36-11eb-9276-ae0ca72729be_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_10https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/black-people-are-justifiably-wary-of-a-vaccine-their-trust-must-be-earned/2020/12/09/4cf5f18c-3a36-11eb-9276-ae0ca72729be_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_10

Willets Point wrote: Bad side effects manifest themselves in a day or two after vaccination. I could actually understand a MLB players, especially one on the bubble, not wanting to risk missing games because of bad side effects. But it's June. They really have to take the plunge sometime soon. Or sometimes a month or so. But I get your main point and also agree with you. But so long as science can't definitively rule out the possibility of long term side effects, there are gonna be people reluctant to get a covid vaccine because of these fears, not only because of the expedited approval process but because covid vaccines are brand new with not much of a track record. We're not talking about vaccines with the history of, say, a polio vaccine.

I don't see what's so unreasonable about worrying whether or not the covid vaccines needed to go through more testing before being approved. Bad side effects might take a year or even more to manifest themselves.

Second Opinion The skinny: -deGrom's MRI is normal -Mets will take it one day at a time -deGrom won't be IL'ed, barring a change in circumstances -deGrom "played catch" today - everything normal and unenventful -deGrom's next start TBD Jacob deGrom's MRI clean; New York Mets taking 'day-by-day approach' An MRI performed on New York Mets ace Jacob deGrom's right shoulder came back clean, manager Luis Rojas said Thursday. The results were examined by two doctors. "We had an MRI taken on him and ran it through two doctors just to have a second opinion, as well, and both doctors had the same prognosis from the imaging: It just shows as a normal shoulder a pitcher would have and there's no concern," Rojas said, adding that deGrom played catch Thursday. Rojas said that the team plans to take "a day-by-day approach" with deGrom and that there are no plans right now to place him on the injured list. The Mets also aren't sure when he'll make his next start. Editor's Picks "I don't see how it would change today, doing an IL stint," Rojas said. "It's going to be a normal shoulder in 10 days. I'm less concerned [because] he's playing catch today." DeGrom left Wednesday night's start against the Chicago Cubs with shoulder soreness. It marked the third time he has left a start with an injury this season, including Friday against the San Diego Padres with elbow soreness and May 9 against the Arizona Diamondbacks after five innings with right side tightness. Rojas said Thursday that none of deGrom's injuries are connected. "This is an isolated thing from the right forearm or the flexor tendinitis," Rojas reiterated. "It's something that happened yesterday. We checked him after the game and checked him today, and everything is normal." DeGrom, 32, struck out eight of the nine batters he faced over three innings, and he drove in a run with an RBI single in the second inning. The Mets aren't ruling anything out in terms of what caused his latest ailment, including even the possibility of it happening on a swing at the plate or simply because of how hard he throws. DeGrom has the highest average fastball velocity (99.2 mph) of anyone in baseball. "We want to pay attention to this thing, on a day-by-day approach," Rojas said. DeGrom's three shutout innings Wednesday lowered his ERA to 0.54 -- he has given up only four earned runs all year -- while his RBI gave him six on the season. He has 111 strikeouts in 67 innings. https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31654059/jacob-degrom-mri-clean-new-york-mets-taking-day-dayhttps://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31654059/jacob-degrom-mri-clean-new-york-mets-taking-day-day

Lefty Specialist wrote: Lotta vaccine deniers in MLB, regrettably. I'm generalizing here, but to simplify, I'd put those who refuse to get a covid vaccine into two categories: One - those who harbor serious long term safety concerns about the vaccines because the vaccines were rushed to market in a historically unprecedented manner. No vaccines were ever developed and approved in so short a time prior to covid-19. People in this category will tend to be young and very healthy, like professional athletes; and Two - Those nutjobs who think that the government is using the vaccine to inject tracking devices into its recipients, or some other tinfoil QAnon-like stolen election lunatic suspicion.

dinosaur jesus wrote: If there seems to be something wrong with me, and the doctor says he can't find anything, I don't get much relief from that. I want the doctor to tell me what's wrong, and whether it's serious or not. This is the fourth time this year doctors have said he's fine. I wonder if there are some pitcher injuries that, though they are festering inside of the pitcher's body, can't be diagnosed until they get to the point where they are so severe that the pitcher has to be IL'ed.

https://twitter.com/jonheyman/status/1405590122175864840 What do the Mets mean by "second opinion ": a second MRI or a second opinion of the first MRI?

Jacob deGrom “Pretty Confident” He Avoided Serious Injury By Anthony Franco | June 16, 2021 at 9:30pm CDT 9:30 pm: deGrom met with reporters (including Deesha Thosar of the New York Daily News) after the game and downplayed the current issue. While he admitted he's frustrated with the series of developments, deGrom suggested he didn't believe the three health problems were related and, more importantly, sounded confident he'd avoided any serious injury. “I think it's three separate issues. I think the lat was something to do with the swing. The elbow I didn't think too much of, like I said I was pretty confident that that was nothing. And I'm pretty confident that this is nothing.” Manager Luis Rojas said deGrom's prognosis will become clearer after he undergoes further testing tomorrow, but that the initial report was “encouraging” (via Tim Britton of the Athletic). https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/06/jacob-degrom-leaves-early-with-right-shoulder-soreness.htmlhttps://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/06/jacob-degrom-leaves-early-with-right-shoulder-soreness.html ___________ New York Mets ace Jacob deGrom exits with shoulder soreness, 'confident that this is nothing' New York Mets ace Jacob deGrom will get an MRI on his right shoulder on Thursday after leaving Wednesday's start against the visiting Chicago Cubs because of soreness. "I felt good warming up, felt really good in the first and second innings, then there in the third my shoulder was sore," deGrom said after the Mets' 6-3 win. "This is getting old. I want to be out there competing instead of coming out of these games with these little [things]." [***] After the game, deGrom did get some encouraging news; tests on his right shoulder showed no decline in strength when compared to his left one. "I think it's three separate issues," deGrom said of his injuries this season. "I think the lat was something to do with the swing. The elbow I didn't think too much of...I was pretty confident that that was nothing. And I'm pretty confident that this is nothing. We did some tests and ruled out anything serious." Mets manager Luis Rojas added: "During the game I got a report. We can call it an encouraging report." DeGrom was asked if he thought his uptick in velocity this season has anything to do with his nagging ailments. "I don't know," he answered. "I don't know the answer to that....I don't know where to place the blame." https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31647632/new-york-mets-ace-jacob-degrom-exits-start-early-shoulder-sorenesshttps://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31647632/new-york-mets-ace-jacob-degrom-exits-start-early-shoulder-soreness TBD Meanwhile, deGrom faced the minimum possible 27 batters over his last nine innings pitched, allowing just one slow ground-ball single, while walking none and striking out 18.

Edgy MD wrote: Yeah I saw Eddie Krane in the krowd. That couldn't possibly possibly have been Buddy (?!) next to him, right? .Maybe. That was also my fleeting thought.

Oh brother! Now what?

Eddie Kranepool in the stands to watch deGrom.

James Loney

Elio Chacon

John Buck

Bob Aspromonte

It's the Cubs who should be dreading tonight.

Stock's the Cubs sacrificial lamb.

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Are they saying how they're using 2019 data? Maybe for the Mets, they're using Lindor's 2019 data, but not Matz's?

Given 'his stats are beyond amazing,' New York Mets ace Jacob deGrom becomes betting favorite to win NL MVP award https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31631796/given-stats-amazing-new-york-mets-ace-jacob-degrom-becomes-betting-favorite-win-nl-mvphttps://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31631796/given-stats-amazing-new-york-mets-ace-jacob-degrom-becomes-betting-favorite-win-nl-mvp