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Sheesh, Howard is a beast. If he doesn't eat himself out of baseball, they could have a McCovey in the making. Later

JD, I always did like that song. Thanks for the memories. Later

If the Met fortunes don't turn around quickly, we're all gonna' have a cow. Later

That could just mean they put in a claim for him. This is not the period for irrevocable waivers. Under baseball rules, if they can't come to agreement, the Jays can pull him back off waivers. All I'm saying is wait and see. Later

metirish wrote: Red Sox aquire Eric Hinske from Toronto Irish, the article states that the Red Sox have no official comment on the deal. Neither do the Jays. I heard from friends in Toronto who have told me that as of early this morning, the Jays' GM said "No comment" when asked about the deal. So, we don't yet know if this was just a rumor or if there is a hold up over the player(s) involved or the amount of money the Jays will give Boston to take him. Later

="Elster88"]I gave him 6 because it's player of the game polling, not player of the win polling. He had about as good a game you can have hitting-wise, and did it when the rest of the offense got completely shut down. His individual accomplishment isn't lessened because it was a loss. And that is the point I've made in several MVP discussion threads. I like the distinction made by the Sporting News in naming their "Player of the Year" award annually. It is the player who had the best (statistical) year, regardless of how his teammates performed or his team's record. The official MVP award is sometimes awarded to the player with the best stats, but it doesn't have to be. It should be awarded to the player who, when they are in the lineup and/or they are doing well, their team does better than when they're not. The most recent examples I can think of were in the AL. Two (or was it three/) years ago, when the Yankees jumped out to a double digit lead, Hidecki Matsui was their driving force. Jeter and A-Rod were off to slow starts and Sheffield was injured. But night after night, Matsui was the player who led them to that big lead. Later, Sheffield returned and compiled great numbers, but the Yankee lead actually decreased. Sheffield got the MVP, but I felt the W-L numbers showed that Matsui was "more valuable" to the record/performance of his team. The second example was Vlad Guerrero last year. While he was injured, his team floundered around the .500 mark. Once he returned to the lineup, his team surged to a playoff berth. They stunk without him, they won big with him in the lineup. And to me that was a demonstration of what an MVP is all about. (Unless you're Captain Intangibles. Then, all bets are off.) I agree with elster and Scarlett. The points awarded in our POTG should be like the Sporting News award, and based on what the player did. A Reyes- like performance should earn votes regardless of whether or not the team won. Later

Then I guess it would be too much to ask them if they knew Babe Ruth was also a pitcher. LOL! Later

Was driving home last evening and between innings of the Mets game, I tuned in the Yanks game. Jeter made a backhanded stop of a grounder in the hole, got to a kneeling position and threw the runner out at first. John Sterling yelled (I'll spare you the caps) "Another great stop by Jeter!!! He makes one of those every game". Georgy's Girl inserted some fawning comments and then a few pitches later, Sterling added, "Whether in the field, at bat or on the bases, Jeter does something every game to help the Yankees win". My thought is, "What does he do in games the Yankees lose, like last night? That play didn't help them win, John." UGH! That'll teach me to keep it on WFAN. EDIT: Scarlett, I just noticed your post about Mattingly. Last week, once caller to one of the sports talk station mentioned that Mattingly came up as an infielder, playing thrid and first. Even after the host pointed out that Mattingly was a lefty thrower, makin that highly unlikely, the caller persisted that he was right. I guess that's an example of what you said. Later

Nice job, 58. After all these years, it is amazing to see most Rockies' pitchers with ERAs under 5.00, and some under 4.00. That humidor must be helping. Later

From Baseball America: ]The Double-A Binghamton Mets lost four pitchers to Olympic qualifying teams, including closer Henry Owens, who will pitch for Team USA. Starter Miguel Pinango may be selected for the Venezuela team, while Puerto Rican lefthander Willie Collazo and righthander Ivan Maldonado will represent their homeland. The Americas Olympic Qualifying Tournament begins Aug. 25 in Cuba, and the pitchers will leave the Mets Sunday. "To put on the Puerto Rico jersey at the World Baseball Classic was so special," Collazo told the Binghamton Press & Sun-Bulletin. "I have no doubt that it will still be special to put on the Puerto Rico jersey and try to qualify for the Olympics. As much as I want to be here and try to qualify for the (Eastern League) playoffs, at the same time I�ve got an opportunity to play for Puerto Rico." Later

Glavine 3 Bradford 1 Later

The Mets have through their recent dry spell with 5 All-Stars in the lineup -Reyes, Wright, Beltran, LoDuca, Martinez(voted to the team) and Glavine - and one many-time All Star (Delgado). You have to look at their career and 2006 bodies of work and say that this is just an abberration. Each (other than Reyes and LoDuca) has encountered some bumps in the road. Wright may be suffering from Post Derby Syndrome (see Abreau, Bobby). His power numbers have dropped dramatically since the ASG. Delgado, according to a comment I read the other day, may have an injured hand. He has reportedly been a good August/September hitter throughout his career, so there may be some credence to the injury story. Beltran - I don't know what to say...... Pedro - he had pitched well in his recent games until the other night, so the rest on the DL may refresh him. Glavine hasn't pitched poorly - he's not getting lit up. His peripherals aren't that much different from when he was winning. His W-L record has suffered due to lack of run support. That said, until at least a few of those players starts to get back on track and Floyd returns, I'm beginning to get a little concerned. Later

Elster88 wrote: The movie was almost completely exposition. The book was exactly the same thing, with Langdon explaining every little detail along the way. I finally saw it this past weekend. I hadn't followed this thread since it first started, preferring to draw my own conclusions. 88, I totally agree. You posted what I was going to say. It seemed that at every point where something contrary to traditional teachings came up, Langdon immediately provided the counterpoint, to "balance" the arguement by putting it into Historical context. Later

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seawolf17 wrote: ="MFS62"]="cooby"] [ Who was on second, Yogi? No. Who's on second. Later That's what he asked! Actually, I should have typed "Who's on first". It was a slow time on the board, and I was trying to get into the Abbott and Costello routine. But I had a brain cramp. Later

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Funny really that Jeets even for his greatness might be the 3rd best SS in NY! Very true. He is the Alvin Dark (the third NY shortstop in the discussions I mentioned) of his generation. Later

If this were to be a repeat of 2000, when the Mets biggest threat (Atlanta) was knocked off for them in the NL playoffs, I wouldn't be too upset. I'd rather that happen than one of the years in the late 80's when the Mets won all but one game against LA during the regular season, then lost to them in the playoffs. Later

Pee Wee Reese both made the Hall of Fame, and there were constant arguements among fans in in New York over who was better. But (without looking at records) I don't think that either of them ever put up numbers like that. Later

Elster88 wrote:What did he say? I wasn't in the area in 2001.For 2 or 3 days after 9/11, the majority (if not all) of the discussion on the show turned to politics and terrorism. I didn't hear what started it, but Mike turned calls into a loyalty Litmus test. He began asking callers if they were Jewish. If they said they were, he asked them "Which side would you support if America went to war against Israel?"I never heard if he explanied what motivated him to ask that. Maybe he was responding to the rumors promulgated in Arab media that Israel was involved in the conspiracy to attack the WTC and that all Jewish employees stayed home on 9/11.Later

Frayed Knot wrote: ="MFS62"]didn't they lower the mound after the 68 season? Yup. They raised the mound in '69, Nope, they lowered it - by 5 or 6 inches. It was felt pitchers got too much leverage throwing "down" from the high mound. Later

HahnSolo wrote:They've been battling for years, highlighted by Mushnick taking M & MD (particularly Francesa) to task for his comments about Israel in the aftermath of 9/11.Francessa's comments during the post 9/11 days firmly cemented my feelings against him. They would have brought a smile to Mel Gibson's face. Later

didn't they lower the mound after the 68 season? Later

SteveJRogers wrote: I need some beers... There ain't enough beers in the world to wash that one down. Later

Reyes 6 Feliciano .5 Heilman .5 RHernandez .5 Later

and win! Brian Bannister pitched 8 shutout innings with 0BB and 7 K. Infielder Cris Basak hits a homer, for the Tides' only hit. Heath Bell gets the save. Get Bannister's arse up here - - soon! Later