LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Not saying/just saying: WAR-wise (f- and b-type), he was better than both the MFY candidates. Just comparing against the NL candidates: NL rookie position players, by fWAR/600 PA, min 150 PA: fWAR/600 PLAYER (RoY position player rank) 6.5 Jeff McNeil (#5) 4.9 Harrison Bader (#4) 4.6 Ronald Acuna (#1) 4.5 Juan Soto (#2) 3.3 Jorge Alfaro 3.0 Brian Anderson (#3) I certainly understand not voting for a player on the assumption of what they might have done in games they didn't play, but also rarely up to the player to make that call. McNeil was destroying AA/AAA for almost 400 PA before getting called up and the team was in free fall for most of that (for about the last 85% of the season up to the point McNeil was called up, the Mets were 28-55) When he wins the MVP next year, we're all gonna' laugh. Later