Edgy MD wrote: Drugging your way off a first place team and then going to a cellar-dwellar, helping turn them around, getting clean, and leading them into a bitter rivalry against the team you drugged your way of can certainly leave something of a bad taste in the mouth for a while. Gary mentioned today how polite and tolerant he has found St. Louis fans to be. That hasn't been my experience. My experience has been mixed in various St. Louisian visits. First time at Busch II, I was on a biz trip and bought a single seat at the gate. Figured that being amongst the "Best Fans in Baseball" I'd encounter knowledgeable patrons with whom I could the discuss the game but the people around me were complete baseball illiterates. Coulda just been bad luck. More recently at Busch III we had a very friendly stadium tour guide who was partisan and knowledgeable but great to talk to. Also encountered a butt-hurt usher who interrupted us trying to get the proper post-game victory photo, shooing us away. A better strategy would have been offering to take the pic for us but you could tell they too humilated to do so. Spring Training in St. Petersburg back when we shared a facility-- no problems, good folks. Online fans-- don't know they're racists, less smart than they think they are. Visiting fans at Shea/Citi -- OK I guess. My cardinals-Mets at home stories are almost all big wins for the good guys. Historically -- "pond scum." Does not reflect well