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Wasn't there some disgruntled ex-Met employee some time ago that was seemingly blathering about something was brewing in the Met organization? Something that would have been on this kind of level?

G-Fafif wrote: A friend with Sirius passes along this report: He�s going over every Giants memory of his life-where he was and what he was doing. It�s a wrong team audio Cliff Notes version of your book. Couldn�t even DISCUSS 2000. (�Forget the Mets. Forget the Mets.�) Will always cherish the memory of the spontaneous "CHRIS RUSSO SUCKS!" chant that erupted as I approached the turnstile for the 7 after the Bobby Jones game. I met Russo at a book signing once, and instead of his book I had him autograph the program from that game. He did appear to be gracious about it and didn't give any sort of "Geez, you want me to sign THIS" attitude.

And just like that, after the '08 Cubs, and '48 Indians, the third longest stretch without a World Championship is the Pirates at 31.

seawolf17 wrote: Cliff Lee becomes the first pitcher to start Game 1 of the WS two years in a row since... Either Rat Face or Roidger?

metirish wrote: can you be a douchebag and an elitist? Michael Kay & John Sterling.

Fuck off. We know Bondy is a YLDB NYC elitist, but ifI presented the same story, you'd be taking the piss out of me for trying too hard to pile on.

My head hurts. Who's got the Cliff Notes to this thread? Seriously? Okay, lets look at what Val is reacting to: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2010/10/24/2010-10-24_former_yankees_closer_dave_righetti_deserves_credit_as_giants_pitchers_close_out.html Former Yankees closer Dave Righetti deserves credit as Giants pitchers close out NLCS Filip Bondy Sunday, October 24th 2010, 4:00 AM That's all on the headline writer, but as I said, that is telling the few reading who have no idea who Righetti is and why a NYC hack is spotlighting him. PHILADELPHIA - All around him Saturday night in the visitors' clubhouse, the Giants' pitchers were dousing their coach through his shirt, down to the bone. Dave Righetti, the calm center in this swirling champagne storm, was just trying to shake some hands, carry on a conversation with a reporter. "The starters, the young guys, they get a lot of attention," Righetti said. "It's natural. But today, it was all bullpen." The relievers and the starters just kept coming out of that pen on Saturday night, one after another, bringing everybody and everything. Madison Bumgarner pitched a couple of innings, and then later Tim Lincecum was warming up even while Juan Uribe rounded the bases in the eighth with his first-pitch, go-ahead homer off Ryan Madson. "We talked to Tim before the game," Righetti said. "He was ready for this situation." And while Lincecum didn't really do much in his brief, one-out, two-hit appearance, Brian Wilson came in to force a double play, to protect the one-run lead with the same vigilance four other Giant relievers demonstrated in keeping the Phils scoreless after the first inning. The bullpen did what was necessary for this 3-2 victory in Game 6 of the NLCS and won a ticket to the Giants' first World Series in eight years. And the upset really was born in odd, contentious fashion back in the third - when a brouhaha gave Bruce Bochy a legitimate excuse to yank his off-kilter starter, Jonathan Sanchez. Sanchez's pitch hit Chase Utley in the back, though surely not on purpose considering there was a man on first and nobody out. Utley picked up the ball, flipping it back toward the mound as he jogged to first. Sanchez took exception. Utley disdainfully waved him off. The two men jawed. Benches and bullpens emptied, three-quarters-heartedly. After considerable posturing and milling about by the reluctant warriors, Bochy pulled his rattled starter and replaced him with Jeremy Affeldt at an unnaturally early stage of the game - two-plus innings, with the score tied 2-2. Five relievers stopped the Phillies cold. The bullpen was magnificent. So now we have the Giants trying to do something against the Texas Rangers they haven't managed since they foolishly left upper Manhattan - win a World Series. No references to Righetti's past so far. Righetti was asked if it wouldn't even be better facing the Yankees, his old team. "No, it just doesn't work that way," he said. "There are no fairy tales. I feel bad for the teams in the East, the Yanks and the Phils. I know what this means to them here. But we want a piece of this, too." There it is, your only reference in the entire article to the Yankees. He gets that piece now. The San Francisco Giants are the closest thing to a New York team still pitching and catching in October. The franchise played at the Polo Grounds, chased out the Yanks from that home and then betrayed the city in 1958 by heading to the West Coast alongside its partner in crime, the Dodgers. The Giants have three former Yankees on their staff - the batting coach Hensley Meulens, the first base coach Roberto Kelly and Righetti. They also have those familiar six letters across the front of their uniform when they're playing at home. Hmmmm, all it is saying is that there are three ex-Yankees on Bochy's staff, Bondy isn't saying that the Yankees deserve credit for their run. Even the most bitter of ex-New York Giant fans melt a bit at that sight. I'd say he's referring to the GIANTS on the uniform tops, not the three ex-Yankees on the coaching staff. Only one of which is of the fondly remembered kind these days. "I realize this is a New York Giants board," one fan posted last week on a message board for the New York Baseball Giants Nostalgia Society. "But how nice to see the big fellows clinch the Western Division Championship on the anniversary of probably the franchise's and all of baseball's finest moment." The fan was referring, of course, to Bobby Thomson's homer against the Brooklyn Dodgers in 1951. It was a moment like no other in New York baseball history, in Giants history. While these newfangled Giants can never tug at the heartstrings of New Yorkers like the old ones, there is some recognizable grit to this new version. The underdog Giants closed out the NLCS on the road. During the regular season, they came back from a deficit that nearly evoked memories about the Miracle of Coogan's Bluff. "I'll say this about the club," Bochy said. "We've been tested all year. We've been playing big games. We were six and a half, seven games back. We went down to the wire playing Atlanta and now we're here in Philly, playing a tremendous team that's been to the Series the last two years. "These guys, they're battle-tested," Bochy said. Ryan Howard looked at the last pitch from Wilson, a low hard slider for strike three. No dynasty for the Phils, not yet. The Giants were chugging beers and dancing on champagne puddles. Some old memories and ghosts were stirred, under the Macombs Dam Bridge. Hmmm, more about old NY Giant ghosts than "The Yankees deserve credit for the NLCS win for the Giants."

Yes, this has been a sad, losing franchise for half a century, but not in a charming way like the Cubbies. The Rangers are still hoping to emerge from the darkest of dark ages now under the guidance of Ryan and new owner Chuck Greenberg - who happens to be from Pittsburgh, so you can imagine how much he knows about building a decent baseball team. Well, considering he grew up on the Lumber Company Pirates, I'd say he would know, and be able to teach the current owners a thing or two.

Ashie62 wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Valadius wrote: Bondy just wrote an article basically proclaiming the Yankees the victors of the NLCS. Douchebag. Reaching Val, reaching. Though would have been shocking and very nice if Bondy, or anyone for that matter, made the connection that Righetti started his big league life with the Rangers. Not reaching at all really... So, if an article comes out talking up Ryan's Met beginnings or even Francoeur's ex-Met status, that should be proclaiming a Met victory of the ALCS? thats reaching. So basically the headline writer should not have played up Righetti's Yanqui past is what you are saying? Even though it's for a NYC paper and Bondy got a quote about Righetti's thoughts on the Yanqui's ALCS loss. The original column in this thread is a fine example of Bondy's over the top YLDB-ness. The one Val referenced is not.

themetfairy wrote: Very cool Lunchie! And nice recommendation for the restaurant. Perhaps we'll schedule an off season CPF lunch there? Yes we should. Although it does check off all the requirements for Jeets Bandwagon Bar And Grill. *I forget what thread it was, but I was waxing nostalgic for Rusty's and wondering if a former Met would ever get his name attached to a sports bar again. Kase then stuck that moniker on my "dream" Met themed cheesy sports bar.

It's sad that I recall the title thread as a joke used in a silly early WFAN TV ad with Imus and Pete Franklin.

Aliright, number one, it's only mentioned in the headline, which is rarely, if ever, written by the author of the piece, and a brief couple of graphs on Righetti's thoughts on if the Yankees had made it. Not exactly saying Righetti brought over tons of techniques and winning attitude learned from the dozen or so pitching coaches and managers he had when pitching in the Bronx, and that is why The Giant pitching staff is awesome. Second, even if you want to presume 99 percent of readers know Dave Righetti's history in New York, it's still for the 1 percent that might not know and would be wondering why the fuck is this reporter is chatting up the Giants's pitching coach. Look if Righetti was an ex Met you wouldn't be calling douchebagery on this exact article, swap Yankees for Mets in the title, article when it gets linked to in the Rico thread.

Ashie62 wrote: SteveJRogers wrote: Valadius wrote: Bondy just wrote an article basically proclaiming the Yankees the victors of the NLCS. Douchebag. Reaching Val, reaching. Though would have been shocking and very nice if Bondy, or anyone for that matter, made the connection that Righetti started his big league life with the Rangers. Not reaching at all really... So, if an article comes out talking up Ryan's Met beginnings or even Francoeur's ex-Met status, that should be proclaiming a Met victory of the ALCS?

Valadius wrote: Bondy just wrote an article basically proclaiming the Yankees the victors of the NLCS. Douchebag. Reaching Val, reaching. Though would have been shocking and very nice if Bondy, or anyone for that matter, made the connection that Righetti started his big league life with the Rangers.

Greg, you should have saved that for the April 1st post at FaFiF!

Pretty much a big reason why it was such a mistake to give the HOF membership voting rights on the Veterans Committee ballots. Too much subjectivity, especially with people too close to the subjects and too much belief in the hype of the postseason.

Ashie62 wrote: Rangers in 4 Rangers in 7! Oh wait, wrong sport.

HahnSolo wrote: Which stadium did the Beatles choose...twice? Like Paul McCartney (if any of the four was into such intricate details such as exactly what venues they should do, it'd be McCartney) was all "Well, I ya know, I think we should look at that new thing out there in...ummmm what's the name of that part of New York? Flush...something? Yea, that should be where we should go! Make it happen Brian!" If they had any say, and I'd imagine the only person who did was Brian Epstein, it'd probably be whatever would be closer to the nearest international airport. Get in, get out, boom there ya go. YS I probably wasn't suited for Stadium Rock to begin with, even though it would have fit more people and that was pretty much what Sid Bernstein wanted when he promoted it. The first ever stadium sized concert. Bring the electricity of an arena show to a larger scale. You probably wouldn't get that at a place like YS I. Of course 40 years later Paul McCartney played Fenway Park, but I don't think the Fenway or Wrigley "craze" was in effect back in the 1960s. I have nothing to base it on, but I'm sure the "Fenway is a great venue" doesn't start until the multi-purpose craze kicked into high gear in the 1970s. And again, Shea was closest to the airports and had plenty of space in which to get helicoptered in and out of the area, which the Beatles were.

I'm assuming Spitter is referring to the Nats using 8 (Gary Carter), 10 (Andre Dawson, Rusty Staub) and 30 (Tim Raines) in circulation since the move from Montreal. Hence implying that the start of the franchise is 2005, not 1969. Old Giant fans, as well as Dodger fans though, probably cringe when considering how both franchises honor players, seasons and moments (Dodgers celebrated the 55th anniversary of the 1955 champions this year) and consider that all worse than the Nats acting as if there were no Montreal Expos. That's at-worst stolen history. Not honoring the tributes that Raines, Staub, and Dawson earned from Montreal is sort of deleting history That's fair Edge, but I'm sure to an old Dodger or Giant fan its six of one=half dozen of the other and probably would prefer how the Ravens/Browns did it.

Edgy DC wrote: Hey, Steve's back! Steve, looks like I owe you some money, honey. I'd be wondering if Project Children gives box sets with donations, that is a lot for a single album!

Frayed Knot wrote: even in their own part of the world they're overshadowed in the minds of 'Big Media' by the Cubs And it would appear, to them, that the majority of Cub fans, or at least those showing up every day at Wrigley are of the casual or tourist variety and the media's constant calling of Cub fans as long suffering die hards rings hollow.

Going Sunday, probably also going to take the LIRR over to Douglaston and check out Straw's new restaurant.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I'm already pre-gaming, brahs. THIS OFFICE-DRINK'S FOR YOU, HAWKMAN! Carter Hall is going to be there?