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Toby "Don't call me Al" Borland?

Mets draw first blood. 1-0 in the second after a Schneider infield hit. OE: From one SS who replaced a World Series champion to another! <--

AG/DC wrote: The old 6-5 works. That IS one way of doing it!

Speaking of absurdly obvious, a DP would be nice right here.

="Frayed Knot"]"Because I'd get flammed for being too pessimistic" When talking about the suggestion that this (or any) team could benefit from a 20 of 25 streak I don't think "pessimistic" is the phrase you're looking for. Seems to me that "absurdly obvious" works better. No, the fact that I ended that post by saying that I don't see this team pulling that off at all this year would have been overly pessimistic. In any event, Wright extends his hit streak, but Mets strand him.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I think cleon is taking the piss. Grote15 hasn't been nearly the always on the sunnyside pom-pom waver that good old cleonjones12 was!

I've looked at both ESPN and Sportsline, nothing even on Figueroa's DFA-ing.

FWIW Vargas is listed on the roster with 39 and Tatis is posied to be the 29th different Met to don #17 in a regular season game.

="KC":102xekti]You said you know a place that would go bananas if they heard this. Heard what? If you're talking about another forum ... please don't. Especially forums where you're not exactly the most popular poster.[/quote:102xekti] Oh, don't sweat I was just having fun here, I wouldn't. OlerudOwned May 13 2008 04:27 PM Does that mean the Mets save $4 million on his buyout? Goodie. Kong76 May 13 2008 04:43 PM Jeets: >>>Oh, don't sweat I was just having fun here, I wouldn't<<< I think you misunderstand me, I mean DON'T TALK ABOUT OTHER FORUMS. Frayed Knot May 13 2008 05:01 PM ]Though they'd wish Delgado would just pull a Mike Schmidt and retire NOW! Which would be great because we've got so many other 1st base options just sitting around. Edgy DC May 13 2008 05:19 PM Steve isn't speaking for himself. For once I'm clear on that. Edgy DC Jan 02 2009 12:25 PM Still waiting on that retirement announcement. Valadius Jan 02 2009 02:34 PM My guess? He changed his mind. Benjamin Grimm Jan 02 2009 02:50 PM Go kick your uncle. And punch him in the neck and... Oh, never mind. MFS62 Jan 02 2009 06:39 PM There would be one way to see if Carlos meant it or not - if he finishes the 2009 season with 30 home runs, giving him 499 for his career - and he doesn't come back to try to get number 500. Then we would see where he falls on the scale that goes left-to-right from "I have my principles" to "How much you payin' me?" I'd bet he is on the left side of that scale. Later Valadius Jan 02 2009 06:59 PM Delgado's always struck me as a classy guy. He signed a ball for my grandfather's 85th birthday 3 1/2 years ago. dgwphotography Jan 03 2009 07:24 AM I would be pretty pissed if he announced his retirement now, after Teixeira signed with the Yankees... Edgy DC Jan 03 2009 10:22 AM What he does after 2009 can't validate what he allegedly said about retiring after 2008. Elster88 Jan 05 2009 03:44 PM Val have you ever been right about anything ever? Nymr83 Jan 05 2009 03:44 PM ="Elster88":1v9r4ck4]Val have you ever been right about anything ever?[/quote:1v9r4ck4] umm... he's a Mets fan. Rockin' Doc Jan 05 2009 05:58 PM Nymr - "umm... he's a Mets fan." That just proves he's smart, it doesn't necessarily make him right very often regarding other things. seawolf17 Jan 06 2009 07:20 AM It's not about being right, it's about having inside information and being adamant about it. Centerfield Jan 06 2009 12:27 PM Exactly. If you are going to pull the "I know more than you" act, insist that something will happen because of inside information, there are only two things you can end up being: 1. Right 2. A tool If #2 happens, take it like a man and admit you were wrong. Backpedaling and excuse making turns you into an even bigger tool. Valadius Jan 06 2009 02:55 PM Who says I made any excuses? Obviously he changed his mind. So would I, after having the kind of second half he had last year. Benjamin Grimm Jan 06 2009 03:01 PM It's not "obvious that he changed his mind." You're overlooking the other possibility: That you were wrong. SteveJRogers Jan 06 2009 06:49 PM ="Valadius":37nz4qvd]Who says I made any excuses? Obviously he changed his mind. So would I, after having the kind of second half he had last year.[/quote:37nz4qvd] Yeah but we probably would have heard about it by know, most likely around the time the Mets exercised the option. I mean who knows, we still may hear about it, but you'd think there would be a story saying "Delgado almost did the Mets a favor." Then again, there was nothing anywhere, all year long that suggested that he'd do the Mets a favor and retire, even with his first half.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: ="SteveJRogers"]On another board I suggested that something the Mets really could use this year is a nice win streak, or a stretch where they run off 20 out of 25 or something. How come you don't share that kind of keen insight with us? Because I'd get flammed for being too pessimistic. I ended that post feeling that the Mets probably don't have it in them this year.

Nats Lopez 2B Guzman SS Zimmerman 3B Johnson 1B Milledge CF Kearns RF Dukes LF Nieves C Lannan SP Mets Reyes SS Church RF Wright 3B Beltran CF Alou LF Delgado 1B Easley 2B Schneider C Maine SP One another board I suggested that something the Mets really could use this year is a nice win streak, or a stretch where they run off 20 out of 25 or something. Well, no better time than...

About what?

="KC":1hym4fqp]We need a thread like this, place gets stuffy sometimes. I hope this gets legs and no one can figure where it originated. Valadius better hope that too else his uncle's brother-in-law is gonna be pissed.[/quote:1hym4fqp] I think I know a place that will go bananas if they've heard this! Though they'd wish Delgado would just pull a Mike Schmidt and retire NOW! Kong76 May 13 2008 04:11 PM Heard what? SteveJRogers May 13 2008 04:13 PM About what? Elster88 May 13 2008 04:18 PM Please change the topic as JCL suggests. Kong76 May 13 2008 04:18 PM You said you know a place that would go bananas if they heard this. Heard what? If you're talking about another forum ... please don't. Especially forums where you're not exactly the most popular poster. SteveJRogers May 13 2008 04:19 PM ="KC":102xekti]You said you know a place that would go bananas if they heard this. Heard what? If you're talking about another forum ... please don't. Especially forums where you're not exactly the most popular poster.[/quote:102xekti] Oh, don't sweat I was just having fun here, I wouldn't. OlerudOwned May 13 2008 04:27 PM Does that mean the Mets save $4 million on his buyout? Goodie. Kong76 May 13 2008 04:43 PM Jeets: >>>Oh, don't sweat I was just having fun here, I wouldn't<<< I think you misunderstand me, I mean DON'T TALK ABOUT OTHER FORUMS. Frayed Knot May 13 2008 05:01 PM ]Though they'd wish Delgado would just pull a Mike Schmidt and retire NOW! Which would be great because we've got so many other 1st base options just sitting around. Edgy DC May 13 2008 05:19 PM Steve isn't speaking for himself. For once I'm clear on that. Edgy DC Jan 02 2009 12:25 PM Still waiting on that retirement announcement. Valadius Jan 02 2009 02:34 PM My guess? He changed his mind. Benjamin Grimm Jan 02 2009 02:50 PM Go kick your uncle. And punch him in the neck and... Oh, never mind. MFS62 Jan 02 2009 06:39 PM There would be one way to see if Carlos meant it or not - if he finishes the 2009 season with 30 home runs, giving him 499 for his career - and he doesn't come back to try to get number 500. Then we would see where he falls on the scale that goes left-to-right from "I have my principles" to "How much you payin' me?" I'd bet he is on the left side of that scale. Later Valadius Jan 02 2009 06:59 PM Delgado's always struck me as a classy guy. He signed a ball for my grandfather's 85th birthday 3 1/2 years ago. dgwphotography Jan 03 2009 07:24 AM I would be pretty pissed if he announced his retirement now, after Teixeira signed with the Yankees... Edgy DC Jan 03 2009 10:22 AM What he does after 2009 can't validate what he allegedly said about retiring after 2008. Elster88 Jan 05 2009 03:44 PM Val have you ever been right about anything ever? Nymr83 Jan 05 2009 03:44 PM ="Elster88":1v9r4ck4]Val have you ever been right about anything ever?[/quote:1v9r4ck4] umm... he's a Mets fan. Rockin' Doc Jan 05 2009 05:58 PM Nymr - "umm... he's a Mets fan." That just proves he's smart, it doesn't necessarily make him right very often regarding other things. seawolf17 Jan 06 2009 07:20 AM It's not about being right, it's about having inside information and being adamant about it. Centerfield Jan 06 2009 12:27 PM Exactly. If you are going to pull the "I know more than you" act, insist that something will happen because of inside information, there are only two things you can end up being: 1. Right 2. A tool If #2 happens, take it like a man and admit you were wrong. Backpedaling and excuse making turns you into an even bigger tool. Valadius Jan 06 2009 02:55 PM Who says I made any excuses? Obviously he changed his mind. So would I, after having the kind of second half he had last year. Benjamin Grimm Jan 06 2009 03:01 PM It's not "obvious that he changed his mind." You're overlooking the other possibility: That you were wrong. SteveJRogers Jan 06 2009 06:49 PM ="Valadius":37nz4qvd]Who says I made any excuses? Obviously he changed his mind. So would I, after having the kind of second half he had last year.[/quote:37nz4qvd] Yeah but we probably would have heard about it by know, most likely around the time the Mets exercised the option. I mean who knows, we still may hear about it, but you'd think there would be a story saying "Delgado almost did the Mets a favor." Then again, there was nothing anywhere, all year long that suggested that he'd do the Mets a favor and retire, even with his first half.

Heh, well my cousin knows a guy who worked at WABC TV and always saw Piazza hanging around with Sam Champion Also I've heard from some NYPD cop that pulled Piazza over with a trannie in the passenger seat. =

These are the "Top 6 Shea Games" they could put together? ] '69 World Series Game 4 I'd rather see Game 5 on here if you want a complete 1969 game. ]'86 NLCS Game 3 '86 WS Game 6 '99 NLCS Game 5 Game 6 belongs, but in terms of meaningfull games, well for starters I'd take Game 5 of the 1986 NLCS over Game 3. And as great as the Grand Slam Single was, is it really an "essential" game for them to put in it's entirety rather than a bonus feature, or part of a highlights montage? ]9/21/01, First Game played in NYC after 9/11 Not going to quibble too much, but this deserves it's own DVD, ala the night 42 was retired in perpetuity in 1997, kind of "outside" the scope of the Mets. ]5/19/06, Mets v. Yankees, Wright's walk-off hit THATS the best regular season game (aside from 9/21/2001) that they could come up with? How about Seaver's return in 83? Straw's debut? Gooden's masterpiece against Chicago in September of 1984? Carter's debut? The 1986 clincher? Game 162 in 1999? ]Plus bonus clips of: '69 World Series Last Inning Carter's Walk-off on opening day '85 '86 Division Clinch Highlights '86 World Series Game 7 Highlights Franco's walk-off RBI single vs. the Yankees Pratt's walk-off homer 2006 "walk-off moments" 2006 Division Clinch Highlights Endy's catch Bill Shea interview No Ball off the Wall? No Henderson Walk-Off? No Cone striking out 19? No Seaver Imperfection? Piazza's debut at Shea? Pedro's debut at Shea? This kind of proves my rant about how the Mets treat their fans and the history of the franchise. 2006 gets the most amount of love in terms of regular season moments? Pratt's game winner (aside from the GSS game on the main DVDs) is the only 1999 moment? And Matt Franco's game winner off of Rivera, along with Carter's walkoff in his debut are the ONLY regular season, non clinching highlights pre 2006? How about a nice Shea Stadium documentary as well that covers all non-baseball stuff as well (Jets, Beatles, WWWF, etc). Something so simple as a Farewell to Shea celebration, and the Mets marketing staff STILL manages to muck everything up. Somehow I get the feeling that the last regular season celebration will only feature Kranepool, Seaver, Staub, Hernandez and the 2008 Mets rather than something the Orioles, Braves, Cardinals, Reds, Phillies did that encompassed all eras of their doomed ballpark's history, giving fans a real treat. Instead the Mets will trot out local members of the championship squads (that aren't pissed off at management) and that will be it.

Never mind... Great that he is a Met fan, but again, the game notes listed him as "Representive for Bermuda Tourism" so that to anyone who wasn't there, or paying attention to the TV would assume they were doing a complete random person. Hence part of my frustration of how the Mets are handling this whole thing.

Then they should have said so on the dopey game notes press release package. Just to add to the rant, in 2012 the Mets will be celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the franchise. I'm getting the feeling that if the same marketing crew that is around now is around 4 years from now, 1986's 25th Anniversary would blow the 2012 one away in terms of how things are celebrated.

From the Mets Game Notes for this evening's game, yet another suit from Lincoln Mercury! Why not have whomever wrote "Mercury Blues" do it then? To quote Billy Walsh, SUITS SUCK!

And the first media hypocritical comment on the issue (well that I heard first anyway) goes to: Warner Wolf 1050 ESPN Radio and 77 WABC! Guy was all over Joba for his fist pump last week (and when it last was a major story) and this morning played a cut of Figueroa calling the Nats out, but said "Hey Nelson, they did that because YOU kept throwing the balls." So instead of calling the Nats out, he uses the same logic Yankee apologists like Michael Kay and scores of media members and callers use for Joba. "If you don't like it, don't (strike out/let up hits or walks/whatever)!" Can't have it both ways on this issue, either it's all bush, or it's just part of a person's personailty and shouldn't be curbed (and therefore a non-issue for those who don't have anything to do with the actual performances on the field/court/ice/whatever).

They are synonymous though. Granted "faith" does have religious conotation in origin, but I've seen faith used in secular forms, such as sporting events.

AG/DC wrote: There'll be other shirts. But every tee shirt should trigger a little learning. Will they all be punk and glam rock from the late 70s-early 80s?

="AG/DC"]="bmfc1"]A-Rod is out for another week so he'll miss the Mets this weekend. Tough break for the MFYs. Cue up the absurd columns about how Nick Green or Cody Ransom or somebody brings the heart and desire and winniness to the team that A-Rod lacks. Unless of course the Mets kick their butts, then cue up the columns about how they lost because A-Rod was too soft to be out on the field. HA! Nah, that usually is reserved for the A-Rod bashers on WFAN and 1050 radio more so than columnists. Actually that's not just the ARod bashers though, thats just about every caller who suggests keeping a Jason Phillips, Joe McEwing, Angel Pagan, etc in the lineup over the "over paid, lazy loaf" that they replaced due to injury.

AG/DC wrote: Is "Stark Industries" still posting at the MOFo? There is a Stark_International that posted once last summer that occasionally shows up in the "logged on" list. Could be the same guy.

bmfc1 wrote: Don Sutton says that the Mets were given "a gift" in the bottom of the first. What was gifted to the Mets? The walk, OK, but then a steal and a single. Perhaps thinking the single should have been scored an error. But hey, it's Don Sutton after all!