Gwreck

Lethal Weapon, by a mile.

Here's the 12-over-5 upset.

I predict Rays in 5. They win tonight in a close game and keep rolling from there. Wouldn't be shocked to see a sweep.

Bullpens are under the two bridges.

AG/DC: Infield fly with the bases loaded. The umpire calls the batter out. The oblivious runners on first and second both are advancing at their own risk and pass the runner on third who is scratching his head. The fielder closest to the ball when it lands gets credit for the three putouts, I reckon. I think the fielder closest to the passed runner also has to be the fielder closest to where the pop up lands, so it would be a popup near the third baseman. But otherwise yes, I think that's right.

I'd like to be "in" but I doubt that I can be the one to "cut the big check" unfortunately...

I have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group. I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same: You have to buy in pairs; People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season; Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A); Draft position is determined by random chance; When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights) Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased.

="Nymr83"]]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase options and if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc. The Mets' can't win there. Not true. All they need to do is make a clear announcement and make the ticket allocation more transparent. Regardless, the point isn't that people will complain about playoff tickets being unavailable. The problem is that the Mets may or may not have used sufficient creativity in creating their partial plans. We won't know until the Mets get around to actually telling giving out meaningful information.

Because politics have nothing to to with who plays in the world series? Besides, if it's politics you care about, Phillies owner Bill Giles supports McCain.

="Benjamin Grimm":2vxwybpt]The way I figure it, there are probably 13 home Sunday games on the schedule. [/quote:2vxwybpt] You don't have to guess! Full 2009 schedule is already available: http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nym&m=4&y=2009 Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:07 PM ]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase options and if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc. The Mets' can't win there. Gwreck Oct 20 2008 07:14 PM ="Nymr83"]]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase options and if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc. The Mets' can't win there. Not true. All they need to do is make a clear announcement and make the ticket allocation more transparent. Regardless, the point isn't that people will complain about playoff tickets being unavailable. The problem is that the Mets may or may not have used sufficient creativity in creating their partial plans. We won't know until the Mets get around to actually telling giving out meaningful information. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:35 PM I'd like to make a declaration of interest in buying into a very small part of someone's 40-game plan. I don't think I can afford or commit to more than a small handful next year, ISO same, etc etc. If there's enough of us... Rockin' Doc Oct 20 2008 07:44 PM Is it just me, or does anyone else find the concern over the availability of Mets playoff tickets be almost as pointless as Detroit Lion fans worrying about their access to Super Bowl tickets? It's probably just me. Watching a good young team like the Rays has made me rather cynical of late. Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:47 PM maybe you could try putting a group together on here to buy a 40 game plan (either 2 or 4 seats) and then divide up the games. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:53 PM Yeah, that's what I'm saying but I need someone who 1) is receiving this offer and 2) Can be trusted to cut the giant check. Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 08:07 PM i'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this. Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PM ="Nymr83":27g5374t]i'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this.[/quote:27g5374t] You could do a proportional buy-in, rate the cost per game, and divvy it up where any potential attendee could buy in even for 1-2 games. We probably won't go to more than 1-2 next year given the cost and distance. Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PM Oops double post. themetfairy Oct 20 2008 08:31 PM A complicating point is that, even within a plan, not all games are priced evenly. With my Sunday plan last year, the prices varied tremendously depending on what color coded ticket price applied to the date. Gwreck Oct 20 2008 08:56 PM I have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group. I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same: You have to buy in pairs; People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season; Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A); Draft position is determined by random chance; When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights) Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:15 PM In Gwreck Oct 20 2008 09:20 PM I'd like to be "in" but I doubt that I can be the one to "cut the big check" unfortunately... John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:21 PM Specially if you intend to collect from me. Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 11:04 PM i'm not sure who here can "cut the big check" or who would be willing to even admit it if they could. we could collect at least some money beforehand, or we could look at a 15-game plan to split up instead of a 40, it really all depends on how much interest we have. themetfairy Oct 21 2008 05:12 AM If it helps, they accept credit card payment for tickets. That just means that someone has a large enough credit limit to handle the transaction and trusts everyone else enough to pony up their share quickly. Fman99 Oct 21 2008 06:45 AM ="Gwreck":f4a68j0e]I have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group. I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same: You have to buy in pairs; People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season; Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A); Draft position is determined by random chance; When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights) Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased.[/quote:f4a68j0e] Yep. My cousin and her husband are in a group in the DC area that does this with four Nats season tickets. Benjamin Grimm Oct 21 2008 06:57 AM Are you guys talking about splitting up a 40 or a 15? And how many seats for each game? And how much would the "big check" be for? John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 21 2008 07:09 AM 2 tixx for 40 games at Citifield would be 3 grand or something at least? soupcan Oct 21 2008 07:52 AM I got two tix for all 81 games in whatever they are calling the upper deck. Don't yet know whether they are in left or right. I gave them a $250.00 deposit per ticket and they will contact me at some future date to let me know where I'll be. The total cost will be about $1,500.00 each. I'm sure I won't even be close to using all of them so if anybody's interested in taking a few off my hands, that's cool. Kong76 Oct 23 2008 02:45 PM I read thread quickly and see 81 and 40 games plans mentioned. I got a letter today that say there will also be five 15 game plans available to people with Mets accounts in the coming weeks ahead. If I can get a 15 game plan I'd be super happy and also willing to share or just meet for some games. Kong76 Oct 23 2008 03:04 PM Re-reading, I didn't go far enough back ... I can't keep up lately. I'll be happy to be offered something is where I was going with this, I really thought most plan holders were going to be left out completely. (and that may have been the original plan before we all became poorer the last couple of months) sharpie Oct 23 2008 03:59 PM I'd be in for buying into a larger plan. Or buying some Soup tix. Vic Sage Oct 24 2008 01:51 PM me, too. soupcan Oct 24 2008 02:02 PM Great, I'll keep you all posted. Farmer Ted Nov 12 2008 11:39 AM Doesn't look like Boston is going after any high-priced free agents. That, or they have a ton of cash stuffed away. BOSTON (AP) -- For the first time in 14 years, the Boston Red Sox aren't increasing any ticket prices at Fenway Park for the 2009 season. Prices range from $12 to $125 for tickets bought after Dec. 17. There is a discount for earlier purchases once tickets go on sale Dec. 13. Red Sox President Larry Lucchino says the team knows that fans are facing challenging economic times and wanted to give them a break. Fans with contracts for premium seats can keep their ticket prices the same if they agree to extend those contracts for one year. The team plans to add about 350 seats at Fenway Park before next season. themetfairy Nov 26 2008 01:20 PM Here are the Partial Season Ticket Plans[/url:205v8hxo]. Partial season ticket holders can make their purchases based on a seniority system. I'm not a long term season ticket holder, so I have to wait until December 10th to purchase my tickets. Gwreck Nov 26 2008 01:28 PM I don't think seniority has anything to do with it -- I think it's based on what you had in 2008. Order is: 1. Full Season Holders from 2008 who did not renew for a Full Season 2009 2. Weekday Plan Holders from 2008 3. Mini and Tuesday/Friday plan holders from 2008 4. Saturday and Sunday plan holders from 2008 Kong76 Nov 26 2008 02:34 PM Got the email earlier and the regular letter just now. Seems to me that if I log at 10am on 12/5 I should be able to get my single seat Sunday ticket and if I got lucky I could get two extra seats? I mean really, if they can't give me one seat after 5-6 years of full season and another 5 or so of plan seasons they can gobble my turkey neck and lick my giblets. themetfairy Nov 26 2008 03:10 PM If Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter. Kong76 Nov 26 2008 03:24 PM I'll post an image of the letter I got a little later. Kong76 Nov 26 2008 04:25 PM Gwreck Nov 26 2008 10:49 PM ="themetfairy":2gwrrk6t]If Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter.[/quote:2gwrrk6t] Indeed. Can't believe the Mets managed to get that one right (!). SI Metman Nov 26 2008 11:26 PM yep, I've only been a Sunday plan holder for 2 1/2 years and got the 10th on my letter. Fortunately they are sparing us from going to the last Sunday game in '09. Kong76 Dec 05 2008 08:15 AM Scored two seats, Sun+ plan, front row of the highest level, in the outfield. mezzman is now promresman Vic Sage Dec 05 2008 09:53 AM my friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot. themetfairy Dec 05 2008 09:56 AM ="Vic Sage":f2arzhqv]my friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot.[/quote:f2arzhqv] It's nice to know that I have priority over somebody.

I have my doubts about these plans. My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase options. I doubt they would do a heavily-Sunday or heavily-Saturday plan; it would seem more likely they'd want to split up the weekend games so that all plans would be equally attractive to the buyers. Also, I wouldn't count on opening day being available in any of the plans.

Jim Thome went from the Phillies to the White Sox in November 2005. Player and contract are similar ($14 million/year) but there were 3 years remaining on the contract and the Phillies had to eat half the money. He returned Aaron Rowand and two minor pitching prospects.

AG/DC wrote: Well, Centerfield's plan is to acquire more pitching by trading the guy Texiera replaces. It also seems some others are at least somewhat satismafied with the notion of Maine and Pelfrey or Pelfrey and Maine as their second- and third-best starters. I know. I just happen to think the first point is over-optimistic and disagree with the second point.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: And all teams have lousy mook fans, the Mets might lead the league in that department. No disagreement. But aside from the Yankees, we get more of the Phillies' lousy mook fans in our ballpark than from any other team. My own anecdotal study also reveals that the only time I've ever felt truly unsafe while wearing Mets stuff at a road game (this study includes the House of Evil and the Wrigley bleachers) was at a Sunday night game in Philly early this year. If Tampa wins, are we going to get it rubbed in our faces when they come to town in June?

Vic Sage wrote: first of all, $$$ is always an object. Well, in that case, it's a little less than "nutsy" to consider options other than Texiera, no? I agree that Texiera is the best possible option, but if the Mets have limited $$$$, they have to consider other places to use it (ie. a #2 or #3 starting pitcher).

Willets Point wrote: I don't hate the Phils, there's no reason to hate them other than jealousy. I think your perspective would change if you went to a few more Mets-Phillies games. If Philadelphia wins, our games against them next year will be unbearable. If Tampa wins, our games against them next year will be like any others.

Tampa, in 4 please.

I think Delgado's trade value is being generally overestimated. He'll only have 1 year on the contract; He'll be 37 next year; His up-and-down 2007 and crappy first half of 2008 are not secrets. I don't think we can count on getting anything special for him. It's not necessarily an argument against Texieria, but worth considering. Especially if $$$ is no object, or presumed to be.

Link here. Joba Chamberlain arrested for DUI ASSOCIATED PRESS 11:56 PM EDT, October 18, 2008 LINCOLN, Neb. - New York Yankees pitcher Joba Chamberlain has been arrested for allegedly driving under the influence, speeding and having an open container of alcohol in his vehicle. Deborah Collins is a spokeswoman for the Nebraska State Patrol. She says Chamberlain was stopped for speeding on U.S. 77 near his hometown of Lincoln at about 1 a.m. on Saturday. Collins says Chamberlain was taken to the Cornhusker Place Detox in Lincoln, which she says is the normal protocol. Chamberlain was lodged at the center on charges of driving under the influence, having an open container of alcohol and speeding. Collins says the county attorney likely would file formal charges on Monday. An e-mail sent to Chamberlain's agent Saturday was not immediately returned.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: What's that little building with the red roof on the lower right? Is it the skeleton of the clubhouse shop? Subway token booth. Build this at the beginning of this year after they tore down the subway rotunda.

"It's 200 miles to Chicago, we've got half a tank of gas, two packs of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses." "Hit it." --- Agree with those who said it's a no brainer.

Niese struck me as needing a half season at Norfolk in '08. I suppose we can find some veterans to eat the innings while we wait for him but I don't particularly like that plan. I guess Vargas or Parnell could step up but counting on them from the start seems like a bad idea.

Chip Caray is an awful announcer. My personal favorite tonight was "The comeback to end all comebacks!"

Vic Sage wrote: 4. ___ (via Delgado trade) Any thoughts as to who? ]5. ___ (via system or FA) Via system? Not an option. Via FA? Tons of options.

I think the money spent on Texieria is better spent on starting pitching. Unless money is no object, in which case I'll take Sabathia and Texieria both.