heep wrote: We needed a presence in the lineup and we got it. We needed a closer and we got the best. We will acquire catcher. We lost draft picks. Ok. We lost a pitching prospect. Ok. Do we need to give up Milledge? Ramirez is is a two tool HOF presence for 3 years. You cannot compare the 2 players, but Milledge has the potential to provide 5 tools and 15 years. I don't like this deal. Does anyone share my thoughts? we didn't need "a" lineup presence, we needed multiple ones, Delgado is a good addition but i still don't expect us to be in the top 5 in the NL in runs scored. as for Ramirez, all "tools" are not created equal...hitting for average and hitting for power (the two "tools" that i assume you are saying he has) are more important than the others.