metsmarathon wrote: i think that typically you want your #2 hitter to be your best contact hitter, outside, perhaps, those who would be better served batting first, third, or fourth.. nope. I want my #2 hitter to get on base, and thus be my 2nd best OBP guy that isn't already batting 3rd or 4th (where i've already put my best OPS 3rd, the best remaining SLG% 4th, and the best remaining OBP leading off) ="Vic Sage"]i think, ideally, you want your #2 hitter to be a hitter you want to give more ABs too than you'd choose to give to the least productive hitter on your team. ding ding ding! we have a winner. this is why Cairo batting 2nd was the epitome of stupid. ]reyes doesn't need a contact hitter to score. he just needs fewer outs made behind him. fewer outs would be a better method of scoring him than bunting him over or otherwise making outs. ]i think, by and large, lineup order has little overall consequence, beyond simply giving your best hitters more ABs than your worst hitters. Which is why LoDuca hitting in the top 3, and Wright hitting 5th, is so irritating to me. at the beginning of the year i could have easily said Reyes, Beltran, Wright, Delgado, Floyd, RF, LoDuca, 2B made the most sense. the way Valentin is hitting you can reverse him and LoDuca, but considreing that the Mets lead the NL in runs scored i won't get worked up over it. Ideally, the Mets trade for Vidro and bat him 2nd (if they batted loduca 2nd over him i'd beat willie's head in)