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  1. ]Sort of like the logic that allows you to call somebody a drunk, and when they deny it, their denial gets noted as a symptom LOL and if Kaline doesn't belong in the hall how do you explain Eddie Murray? or do you "believe in magic (numbers)" to go along with your other bogus criteria? Dave Winfield? i won't even mention Puckett because you'd have to be a blind and deaf Twins fan to say his career at all matches up to Kaline's.
  2. MFS62 wrote: ="Valadius"]I'd add that if they were considered one of the three best players at their position consistently. Which is why I don't think Al Kaline belongs. Yes, he got the "magic" 3,000 hits, but he wasn't even one of the top three right fielders during much of his career (Aaron, F. Robinson, Clemente. Later which is why i think the whole "best at position" thing is arbitrary and bullshit. theres no reason there couldn't have been alot of great players at one position and very few at another position at any given time. judge a guy by what he did.
  3. takes steroids and succeeds partially as result of them, thats what.
  4. ]Perhaps the most notable new name to emerge from the affidavit is former Mets pitcher Sid Fernandez, who wrote a $3,500 check to Radomski in 2005, almost eight years after the lefty's last appearance in a major league game. The affidavit doesn't say what Fernandez got for his money. why the heck would you want roids when you're retired?
  5. ]When Do You Miss Baseball The Most? when Schoenweis is pitching.
  6. agree 100% with vic sage. good defense can push you over the top, particularly at a tough defensive spot. i'd be hard pressed to think of a player who i'd keep out because his defense was "bad" but would put in if he had managed to be "below-average to average" with the same offensive production. i'm not saying this player could not hypothetically exist just that i cant identify him.
  7. sure a player could augment his merit with defense, but he doesn't need to when he's got a 149 OPS+ (kiner)
  8. Valadius wrote: I'd say that going blind would qualify. Also ALS, cancer, or paralysis, for starters. vladius: creator of weird mets nicknames and the decider of which injuries/diseases qualify you for cooperstown. my point is that you can't arbitrarily say "well cancer is ok, but losing a leg? no way" a guy's career must stand on it's own merits.
  9. Kiner's 10 years were hall-worthy. He is 26th on the career OPS list (36 on OPS+.) Puckett doesn't come close to Kiner's production and doesn't have the longevity to get around that.
  10. whats an injury "beyond your control"? isn't that pretty much any injury with the possible exception of injuries incurred while participating in dangerous non-baseball activities like washing your car (jeff kent.) you should be evaluated based solely on the time you did play, not speculation as to what would have happened if you'd played more.
  11. X has Y statistic written all over him before he suffered injury Z. sorry, that argument shouldn't cut it.
  12. Tony Perez and Phil Rizzuto. Kirby Puckett, i'm sorry that you got sick but you are NOT a hall of famer.
  13. i apologize because i thought we were talking about the rise in ticket prices this yearr as oppose to the new stadium. i will reserve judgment on the new stadium until i actually see the prices. i think "fair" is a pretty subjective term. i don't think its "fair" for the Mets to to be criticized at all on ticket prices when you consider that they are much cheaper than the other 3 major sports.
  14. ]"I am disappointed that my 25 years in public life have apparently not earned me the benefit of the doubt..." yes, your throwing bats at opposing players and beaning them intentionally in the head has shown that you deserve the benefit of the doubt.
  15. he's not bad and at least they didn't throw 3 years at him for no reason.
  16. if a caller EVER introduces himself as a suffering yankee fan he should be hung up on immediately.
  17. Vic Sage wrote: there are any number of statistics voters could use in determining their HOF votes. Its just that many members of the BBWAA are too stupid to understand or use them, and prefer to rely on their subjective ancedotal views. And while stats would not be the sole basis for a determination, because deciding which stats are of must relevance and how best to interpet them are all matters of debate, they should sure as shit establish a rebuttable presumption of either inclusion or exclusion that those who want to assert "intangibles" would have an opportunity to challenge. If we can at least shift the debate to figuring out which accomplishments (objectively measured) should get a player into the HOF, instead of dealing with "I know a HOFer when I see one!" arguments, then that would be cause for some meaure of satisfaction. exactly. but the writers will never get there without a change in the process because right now its the dinosuars club. i'd bet half of them couldn't tell you what OPS+ was and 90% have never heard of VORP.
  18. this is YOUR typical bullshit. this isn't exploitation, there are plenty of other forms of entertainment out there and the idea that you are entitled to this one at a price of you choosing is bullshit "working class" people are hardly being excluded from anything, there were (last year i dont have a 2008 schedule) 37 home games which yo could get into for either $5 or $9 (this year $5 or $10) per ticket. take public transportation (i do) dont buy their expensive food (i sure don't, unlike the football stadiums shea will let you bring in anything except glass bottles), dont buy a program (when i used to keep score, which i dont anymore, i printed out a scorecard off the internet- i even modifioed it to make it more to my liking than the one you can buy). you don't have a leg to stand on here, if you cant afford $10 a seat thats not the Mets' fault and it shouldn't be their problem.
  19. like everyone else he claims to have "used" the exact number of times that he was caught. i find that hard to believe and he's got no credibility given his previous denials. come clean for real or don't bother.
  20. who is the first pick in the new not for profit CPF league? can anyone here pitch?
  21. communist propoganda generally gets a rise out of me, yes. in any case we're talking about a baseball game here ... please explain how it is "exploitation" or even "unfair" to raise prices on an entertainment for which there are many alternatives? if people don't like the ticket prices they can spend their money at the movie theater, buy a video game, read a book, etc. people "vote" on ticket prices with their wallets as it should be.
  22. but who is not a "know-nothing"? ideally you'd leave it up to Bill James, Rob Neyer, and their ilk to use statistics to decide who the top X% of players are and put them in the hall, but i doubt that will ever happen
  23. ]because they do so well with All-star balloting? but the writers who gave Palmiero a gold glove for playing 15 games at 1B that year do an excellent job. the fans would collectively do just as good a job as the guys who do it now.
  24. exploitation? please. watch on tv or not at all if you don't like the prices, which by the way are still a hell of alot lower than the other sports.
  25. its not "intangibles" if a guy had dozens of huge hits WHICH YOU CAN DOCUMENT, but just calling him "clutch" is an intangible and should not factor one iota in his candidacy
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