Benjamin Grimm

A hold is a save opportunity in which you don't finish the game, but also don't give up the lead.

Frayed Knot wrote: Oh, and Joba to the 15-Day DL (at least) My daughter, 7, got a big kick out of the Daily News headline about Joba. It said that he has an appointment with "Dr. Doom." Naturally, she thought it was referring to this guy: http://kungfurodeo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/doomquote_47.jpg

I received a free promotional copy of his book last year, but I can't bring myself to read a book that's titled "Everything Happens For A Reason."

Whatever happened to Patchy Fogg?

VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for August 3, 2008 (10 votes) Houston Astros 4, New York Mets 0 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceCarlos Delgado12.651.263-4, SO.Jos� Reyes8.750.882-4, BB.Oliver Perez7.000.70(L) 6.0 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 3 SO.Carlos Beltran6.450.642-5.Eddie Kunz3.600.361.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO.Scott Schoeneweis1.820.180.2 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO.Carlos Muniz0.880.090.1 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 0 SO.Robinson Cancel0.250.021-4, 2 SO.

VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for August 2, 2008 (10 votes) Houston Astros 5, New York Mets 4 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceJohan Santana36.053.606.1 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 3 SO.Damion Easley17.751.782-3, R, HR, 2 RBI, BB.Daniel Murphy10.221.021-4, R, SO.Jos� Reyes7.680.772-5, R, SO, SB.Carlos Beltran6.950.701-4, R, 2B, RBI, BB.Carlos Delgado6.450.641-3, 2B, RBI, BB, 2 SO.Duaner Sanchez2.800.280.2 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO.Joe Smith0.870.090.1 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO.Fernando Tatis0.250.021-5, 2 SO.

VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for August 1, 2008 (10 votes) Houston Astros 7, New York Mets 3 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceJos� Reyes12.101.212-4, R, BB.Carlos Delgado11.301.132-4, R, 2B.Pedro Martinez9.750.985.0 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 5 SO.Joe Smith8.900.891.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.Fernando Tatis5.800.581-4, RBI, SO.David Wright4.800.481-4, RBI, SO.Damion Easley4.300.431-4, RBI, 2 SO.Carlos Beltran2.200.221-4, R.Pedro Feliciano1.950.200.2 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.Argenis Reyes0.750.081-1.

Tatis 4 Pelfrey 3.5 Evans 0.5 Murphy 0.5 Feliciano 1 Beltran 0.5

Except that Tug is dead at the present time.

There's no way I'd pull a pitcher for walking a leadoff batter with a four-run lead. That smells like panic, and it's what, to me, was the last straw with Willie Randolph when he did it with Feliciano against Florida last September.

I'm not in the mood to watch this game tonight. I'll probably tune in later though. Nick Hundley, catcher? Any relation to Todd and Randy?

What a wimp. Why doesn't he just throw right-handed until his left arm heals? For the money he's making, he should be able to throw with both arms! And if he pitches righty, he can't be any worse than he has been!

Hey, welcome back Iubby. You haven't been around here much lately!

It's really encouraging how the Mets are continually downgrading their roster for the pennant race.

That's for a pair of seats. Shea has about 56,000 seats, or about 28,000 pairs of seats. If they sell out at their asking price, they'll net a smooth $24,052,000. Not too shabby. I wish I could sell my old furniture for that much.

PRAA? Jeez, I feel so out of it. I only understand about half the statistical references anymore.

Actually, I should add that I do already have seats from Shea Stadium. They're fragments of the original wooden seats. When they were removed and replaced with the plastic, they were left in a pile at the bottom of the exit ramps. I picked up a couple of pieces and so did my friends. I think mine have moved around with me a couple of times and are in the basement of my house. Since I already have part of Shea Stadium, a part that dates to 1964, I can sit out the upcoming ripoff frenzy.

That does it. I've now lost any hope that I might be able to afford to buy the Mets dugout. Maybe I'll get a bathroom faucet or something.

I was there twice. In 1984 and 1985. The 1984 visit was because I was young and foolish. I was "curious." In 1985, it was to see Tom Seaver win his 300th game. As I said recently in another thread, Yankee Stadium back then wasn't loaded with all the talk of "aura" and "mystique." It was just a venue where a hated team played. Now, there's no way I'd ever set foot in either the current or the new Yankee Stadium. It's the Bronx version of Osama bin Laden's mosque.

Also, a guy who helps you in September can be of value, even if he won't be eligible for the post-season roster.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: My list is short and includes 6 dead stadiums. You've got 16 ballparks there. I woudn't call that a short list. For the first 20 years of my life, my list had one stadium on it. (Shea, of course.) Now THAT was a short list! Me, I'll probably add Citi Field and Nationals Park in the next few years, but beyond that I probably won't add any more unless I happen to be in California or Phoenix or Denver at the same time the Mets are.

="HahnSolo":2usel9v8]Stupid question from someone who's been around three years: do you have to vote for every game, or can you vote in some/note vote in others? I want to participate. I feel like I'm missing the fun.[/quote:2usel9v8] No, you don't have to vote in every game. If you want to freshen up on the voting rules, check out this thread: http://cranepoolforum.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=6278 batmagadanleadoff Aug 19 2008 11:23 AM ="G-Fafif"]A request to BG to consider expanding the portfolio for future Schaefer winners to include designs from ... '70. seawolf17 Aug 19 2008 12:06 PM Yeah, but that's his actual 1970 rookie card, so that doesn't count. metsguyinmichigan Aug 19 2008 12:20 PM The 1972 Seaver is my favorite card of all time. The 1974 Heilman mock-up was outstanding. And count me among the people stunned to see him there. That must be a steady case of 1 and 2 points a game adding up. batmagadanleadoff Aug 19 2008 02:04 PM ="seawolf17":i1xi1mc7]Yeah, but that's his actual 1970 rookie card, so that doesn't count.[/quote:i1xi1mc7] Nice one! You're looking kinda Francoish yourself these days. I sometimes hate the way these Met ranked avatars change so frequently. I look at the Franco pic, and I assume it's Vic Sage. G-Fafif Aug 19 2008 02:10 PM ="batmagadanleadoff"]="G-Fafif"]A request to BG to consider expanding the portfolio for future Schaefer winners to include designs from ... '70. Great job! Love the lack of cap and almost team-indifferent gear. That's 1970 Topps all the way. ]Yeah, but that's his actual 1970 rookie card, so that doesn't count. Line of the week...at least! G-Fafif Aug 19 2008 02:14 PM ="metsguyinmichigan"] The 1972 Seaver is my favorite card of all time. Forever high on the '72 Seaver, since it was a Kid Rock special -- took all summer long to track it down. Also in everlasting love with this one: Favorite cards 1 and 1A, I'd say. batmagadanleadoff Aug 19 2008 02:56 PM BTW, I didn't create that mock Franco card. (Though I would never pass up the opportunity to otherwise mock Franco!). Apparently in the 1990's, there was a magazine that would create cards of contemporary baseball players in the format of older style Topps cards. Topps Football Doc G-Fafif Aug 19 2008 03:01 PM Now that you mention it, I thought the font was the tiniest bit off on METS on Franco. Kudos for bringing it to the class' attention. batmagadanleadoff Aug 19 2008 03:02 PM ="G-Fafif":3srniaav]Now that you mention it, I thought the font was the tiniest bit off on METS on Franco. Kudos for bringing it to the class' attention.[/quote:3srniaav] It is and good eyeballs. I know that '70 set inside out. Those were the first cards I ever collected, and I believe that those cards dominated my life that year. I got a horizontal Mets team picture with the "Worlds Champions" designation over the top in the very first pack I ever bought. Some way to start, huh? The '68 lettering on the mock Murray is off, too.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if he's not activated by August 31, he won't be pitching for anyone in October.

Vic's defunct percentage is almost as high as mine.

="Benjamin Grimm":3ru11s24]="Elster88":3ru11s24]Looking just at the numbers, Heilman over Wags doesn't make sense either. I haven't been voting enough either.[/quote:3ru11s24] I think in this case quantity triumphed over quality. Heilman pitched in four games more than Wagner did. He earned points in 12 different games, earning more than 1 point on July 9, 11, and 29. Wagner earned points in 10 games, and the only one in which he earned a full point or more was July 26, when he pitched 2 innings and got no decision. In his one-inning saves, he earned his most points, 0.91, on July 11 and as little as 0.46 on July 23.[/quote:3ru11s24] As for the guys who finished ahead of Tatis, three of them were starting pitchers: Mike Pelfrey, in five starts, earned 5.45, 5.04, 4.64, 4.38, and 1.04 points. Oliver Perez had five starts and earned 4.96, 3.84, 3.5, 3.44 , and 2.42 points. Johan Santana, in four starts, earned 5.16, 4.75, 4.31, and 2.91 points. Here's how Delgado, Wright, Reyes, and Tatis earned their points: Carlos Delgado DatePointsabrh2b3bhrrbibbJuly 172.6942300131July 262.4662200231July 242.2740110020July 201.8841310021July 31.822100131July 221.851100120July 291.5131100121July 251.441100121July 11.2431320001July 91.1242320000July 13141100120July 50.8551200000July 80.6831200111July 20.6141100011July 190.5530200001July 70.4151210000July 120.3621100002July 270.2240100010July 230.0920100002July 60.0251100001July 110.0240110000 David Wright DatePointsabrh2b3bhrrbibbJuly 172.6951200140July 72.6651210140July 192.1242310110July 21.7842301001July 11.5342310111July 101.3432220002July 271.3151300120July 240.9531100011July 250.7731110011July 260.7551210010July 270.7251210010July 280.6941100000July 290.5921000002July 300.3861200012July 310.3721000013July 10.3132100002July 20.1730000011July 30.1151110000July 40.0822000002July 50.0831100001 Fernando Tatis DatePointsabrh2b3bhrrbibbJuly 63.6351320140July 72.6141310131July 82.231100120July 92.0651310122July 101.7841201020July 111.342320120July 120.7341300001July 130.6940100010July 140.5841200110July 150.4810100010July 160.2711110000July 170.1441100000July 180.0231000001July 190.0141100000July 200.0131100001 Jos� Reyes DatePointsabrh2b3bhrrbibbJuly 212.7641100131July 222.0663401000July 231.6982420110July 241.6541101031July 251.4451301000July 261.3450201020July 271.2541100111July 280.9740210010July 290.8942200001July 300.8841200001July 310.5751210000July 10.3630000011July 20.3330100011July 30.3150320000July 40.340100011July 50.2830100012July 60.2851220000July 70.2461310000July 80.1821000001July 90.1251200000 HahnSolo Aug 05 2008 08:44 AM Stupid question from someone who's been around three years: do you have to vote for every game, or can you vote in some/note vote in others? I want to participate. I feel like I'm missing the fun. Also, Maury Wills in that baseball card looks about 66 years old. Kind of like this guy: Benjamin Grimm Aug 05 2008 08:47 AM ="HahnSolo":2usel9v8]Stupid question from someone who's been around three years: do you have to vote for every game, or can you vote in some/note vote in others? I want to participate. I feel like I'm missing the fun.[/quote:2usel9v8] No, you don't have to vote in every game. If you want to freshen up on the voting rules, check out this thread: http://cranepoolforum.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=6278 batmagadanleadoff Aug 19 2008 11:23 AM ="G-Fafif"]A request to BG to consider expanding the portfolio for future Schaefer winners to include designs from ... '70. seawolf17 Aug 19 2008 12:06 PM Yeah, but that's his actual 1970 rookie card, so that doesn't count. metsguyinmichigan Aug 19 2008 12:20 PM The 1972 Seaver is my favorite card of all time. The 1974 Heilman mock-up was outstanding. And count me among the people stunned to see him there. That must be a steady case of 1 and 2 points a game adding up. batmagadanleadoff Aug 19 2008 02:04 PM ="seawolf17":i1xi1mc7]Yeah, but that's his actual 1970 rookie card, so that doesn't count.[/quote:i1xi1mc7] Nice one! You're looking kinda Francoish yourself these days. I sometimes hate the way these Met ranked avatars change so frequently. I look at the Franco pic, and I assume it's Vic Sage. G-Fafif Aug 19 2008 02:10 PM ="batmagadanleadoff"]="G-Fafif"]A request to BG to consider expanding the portfolio for future Schaefer winners to include designs from ... '70. Great job! Love the lack of cap and almost team-indifferent gear. That's 1970 Topps all the way. ]Yeah, but that's his actual 1970 rookie card, so that doesn't count. Line of the week...at least! G-Fafif Aug 19 2008 02:14 PM ="metsguyinmichigan"] The 1972 Seaver is my favorite card of all time. Forever high on the '72 Seaver, since it was a Kid Rock special -- took all summer long to track it down. Also in everlasting love with this one: Favorite cards 1 and 1A, I'd say. batmagadanleadoff Aug 19 2008 02:56 PM BTW, I didn't create that mock Franco card. (Though I would never pass up the opportunity to otherwise mock Franco!). Apparently in the 1990's, there was a magazine that would create cards of contemporary baseball players in the format of older style Topps cards. Topps Football Doc G-Fafif Aug 19 2008 03:01 PM Now that you mention it, I thought the font was the tiniest bit off on METS on Franco. Kudos for bringing it to the class' attention. batmagadanleadoff Aug 19 2008 03:02 PM ="G-Fafif":3srniaav]Now that you mention it, I thought the font was the tiniest bit off on METS on Franco. Kudos for bringing it to the class' attention.[/quote:3srniaav] It is and good eyeballs. I know that '70 set inside out. Those were the first cards I ever collected, and I believe that those cards dominated my life that year. I got a horizontal Mets team picture with the "Worlds Champions" designation over the top in the very first pack I ever bought. Some way to start, huh? The '68 lettering on the mock Murray is off, too.