dgwphotography Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Umpire Angel Hernandez Sues Rob Manfred, MLB for Racial Discrimination"Hernandez claims Joe Torre's hiring as MLB's executive vice president of baseball operations coincided with a decline in Hernandez's performance rating. "http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2719717-umpire-angel-hernandez-sues-rob-manfred-mlb-for-racial-discrimination
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Umpire Angel Hernandez Sues Rob Manfred, MLB for Racial Discrimination"Hernandez claims Joe Torre's hiring as MLB's executive vice president of baseball operations coincided with a decline in Hernandez's performance rating. "http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2719717-umpire-angel-hernandez-sues-rob-manfred-mlb-for-racial-discriminationOh boy, my hottest umpiring button. Hernandez is absolutely the most egotistical and incompetent person to ever wear an umpire's uniform that I have witnessed in my over 60 years of watching baseball. Two others may have been ranked lower by the players, but when combined with Hernandez' in-your-face- style, denying any and all criticism, he slithers below them.His low performance ratings are richly deserved.Later
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 He's right that Torre doesn't think much of him. That's not a strong basis for a lawsuit. If it is, he's going to be a very rich man, seeing as it is that Torre is far from alone.Apart from that, Hernandez always struck me as a more or less white-ish.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 Hey, most MLBers seem to think he's a big pile of mierda, too, and a significant number of them have much deeper pockets than Torre does. Why not go angling there, s'long as his ass is going fishing?
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 If he is ranked third lowest by the players, I'd guess a number of players who rated him that badly share his ethnicity.Later
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 He didn't sue Torre. Plus, no player has a deeper pocket than MLB itself.Hernandez' complaint is interesting, in that it points out he got good performance ratings and postseason assignments prior to Torre taking office. Example:Following Torre’s arrival, Hernandez received less “exceeds standard” ratings on his evaluations. Furthermore, there was an increased criticism of his on-field situation handling, his ability to make correct calls in the game, and his overall quality as an umpire—areas in which Hernandez had consistently received praise before 2011.There is, I suppose, an alternate explanation for what Hernandez is alleging is discrimination, which is that MLB may well have been doing a crappy job of evaluating umpires prior to 2011.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted July 6, 2017 Posted July 6, 2017 It certainly does appear that they've gotten more discriminating.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted July 6, 2017 Posted July 6, 2017 We just passed the 19th anniversary of the day Angel Hernandez became Angel Hernandez and, to a certain extent, the day Turner Field became Turner Field, the effing play at the plate Hernandez probably got wrong to end an extra-inning debacle and wrong-way sweep by the Braves of the Mets in Atlanta. That was Bobby V and Johnny F going ballistic over what the manager called Michael Tucker's "lousy, illegal slide" into Mike Piazza's lap. For Mike's part, he believed Hernandez made a safe call so he could get going on his All-Star break vacation not one minute later.Good times.We (meaning fans) believe we get jobbed by umpires on the reg, but Hernandez's incompetence stuck out from that day forward and has reinforced itself dependably since.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted July 6, 2017 Posted July 6, 2017 Angel Hernandez is suing MLB claiming racial discrimination is the reason he hasn't been promoted. No, jackass, you havent been promoted because YOU FUCKING SUCK and you deserve to be fired and replaced by a more competent umpire.
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Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2017 Posted July 7, 2017 btw, the discriminated-against Angel H. has been named to the squad of next week's ASG although, particularly as far as his lawsuit goes, I suspect this won't soothe his feelings over being denied (or so he says) post-season assignments and/or a position as crew chief.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2017 Posted July 8, 2017 Does the All-Star Game still determine World Series home field advantage? Or did they do away with that silliness? I seem to think that's been eliminated, but I'm not sure.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2017 Posted July 8, 2017 Yes, HFA in the WS has been eliminated from the ASG equation.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted July 15, 2017 Posted July 15, 2017 Some years ago, Deadspin did a profile on each umpire, listing his proclivities and background and such. Among the profile attributes, they included a category for "where he's hated." This was before replay review, so any umpire with a few years on his record was going to have made enemies with one city or another over an unappealable call. Most guys had one or two cities. The vets had three.But when they got around to Angel Hernandez, I was shocked to find he had four different fanbases on his enemies list, and the Mets weren't one of them. He's burned bridges in four towns worse than in New York? ¡Increible!http://deadspin.com/5906057/better-know-an-umpire-angel-hernandez
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted July 16, 2017 Posted July 16, 2017 John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/DALLASBRADEN209/status/882250303357177860[/tweet]Dallas wins twitter.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted July 16, 2017 Posted July 16, 2017 Nymr83 wrote:Dallas wins twitter.He's got a lot of free time now.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 He continues to prove his ranking.http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2017/08/15/kinsler-angel-hernandez-hes-messing-baseball-games-blatantly/104635246/Later
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2017 Posted August 16, 2017 Nymr83 wrote:Angel Hernandez is suing MLB claiming racial discrimination is the reason he hasn't been promoted. No, jackass, you havent been promoted because YOU FUCKING SUCK and you deserve to be fired and replaced by a more competent umpire.BINGO!
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 Are you kidding?https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ian-kinsler-gets-almost-unheard-fine-criticizing-umpire-angel-hernandez-183520847.htmlThere's no justice in this.Next thing we know, MLB will be defending the Taliban.*Later* = calm down. Said with a good deal of sarcasm.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 When an ump with the juice of Joe West gets a three-game suspension for the relatively tame comments of calling Adrian Beltre baseball's biggest complainer, I understand the umps being pissy that Kinsler didn't get the thumb after a cold and clinical rip of Hernandez, even if most every thing he said was dead on.
Guest 41Forever Guests Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 Edgy MD wrote:When an ump with the juice of Joe West gets a three-game suspension for the relatively tame comments of calling Adrian Beltre baseball's biggest complainer, I understand the umps being pissy that Kinsler didn't get the thumb after a cold and clinical rip of Hernandez, even if most every thing he said was dead on.I was surprised that Kinsler's penalty was to small, especially after he said he didn't care if he got fined. I wonder if the league was sending a message to Hernandez.
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