Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted April 29, 2017 Posted April 29, 2017 Great IGT. Absolutely stole that one. Don't know how Wheeler escaped the way he did but kudos to him. TC not managing to the win stat. Great observation and great job by Terry. Did not agree about the Edgin move last night but loved the call today. Never thought they would win this one until the last out today.
bmfc1 Old-Timey Member Posted April 29, 2017 Posted April 29, 2017 Sounds like Cabrera and d'Arnaud sit tomorrow. Perhaps Granderson as well?
bmfc1 Old-Timey Member Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Quote from Dusty Baker:“Before the series started, they were reeling, but at the same time, a good-pitched game can stop your reeling,” Nationals Manager Dusty Baker said. “And they’re pulling out all the stops.”What stops were the Mets pulling out?https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/nationals-lose-again-to-the-mets/2017/04/29/d21d4da4-2c4a-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html?utm_term=.888c57646cf6
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 bmfc1 wrote:Quote from Dusty Baker: ... “And they’re pulling out all the stops.”Says the man who at one point had three pinch-runners on base at the same time.P.S. they all got stranded
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Terry did two things in this series so far that defied standard orthodoxy, and I approved of both of them, and they both worked out.On Friday night, he pulled Jeurys Familia in favor of Josh Edgin. I first noticed this trend during the days of Billy Wagner, but it may go back further than that. Once a closer is in a game where there's a save opportunity, you keep him in the game, no matter how much trouble he's in, no matter how poorly he's pitching, until the lead is blown. As long as there's the slightest chance that your guy can get a save, you leave him in the game. Because getting a save for your closer is, of course, more important than getting a win for your team. And on Saturday, he gave Zack Wheeler the hook with two out in the fourth with a lead, depriving him of the chance to get the win. Again, Terry rightly put the team ahead of a statistical reward for an individual player. I don't know why it takes losing nine of ten, or ten of eleven (whatever it was) for Terry to realize that getting a win is important, but I hope the lesson sticks with him.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 This was Casey Stengel's philosophy, by the way. If a player you know can play isn't playing well, there's thinking that says you stick with him, keep him in the lineup/the rotation/his role. Your loyalty to him would be rewarded in his increased confidence, and that guy would be ready to go to war for you down the stretch.Casey had none of that. He believed a manager's loyalty to his players was important. But he exercised it differently. He thought you did what you needed to do to get the win, and so show loyalty to the other 24 players who prepared and worked to win the game that day.The 25th guy? Tough noogies if he had to pull you or bench you or pinch-hit for you? But how down can you feel? Your team won, didn't they?Through much of the fifties, is rotation was often two locks—Ford and Reynolds, perphaps—and two or maybe three guys who happened to be the hot hand at any given moment. His middle infield was an interchangeable as lego blocks, and first and third and one of the outfield slots were often in flux.Getting comfortable with the flux is a good trait.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 The end of this game is the seasons high point so far. I was listening to the end on WOR radio and I just could not believe that:1) TC pulled Fammy and2) Edgin got Harper to hit an easy grounder to the mound.I was like,"Holy fuckin' shit, the move actually worked!"I consider it to be the first Mets Magic Moment™ of 2017.[fimg=300]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/S7n7i6vDa1efP-7_AvUNg0wX_frurJfD1gpUNXytbYPeYHwOK4xgC36n4O0u-BtV88Wyb51jzkpTEcDMC6d-5emoTxqzom7OWN_2KXWyn-cyy3jnShmD9FAz_Bz9rJT6zmHq2ffkcumvPJqqBU_4hPGCSTtqmCFq9XBD9n5yoijhLTCGw-7Y1HUk1ORC0BdFZha5V8_gFOJEl4dNgwUPVrXP5XmZjei5Mh7QzbKuX8OrqDq1pNDqjC8gh_agTklRbLvrG_pTdNWKRsD4WVUjpUpEQgc83kNILZ2yysmFSN9Yl0XbtahIfJ2oDnAgoty7fvrbJj02Q-4vvBTo40pl9l3zAvsfO_mYzqpnjBn5zYp65Owqit-qBKIr4izyjWpMCjg8IOqtEGbD0ypiJSZ5llm8BLH6fSBSZEqCJu7PMxXd62SN3sbZN2efwHpgr1dBAvI1fSmWDfHazv3EN4BN8iSDzoUG7poJaURGHGEwe8wsPVTwaSL9OFhfrzm8K-VymUT_noaEdSMhZ9cI_HLrcUQvdf70qOg5IvH60FukDttVJ2uq7twNWSsCeJbRz7FSGw1QLqub3dyy3nxkHQkjLfCNN3rDyJQO87RZltmaimDmp6k_QkzI2g=w530-h745-no[/fimg]
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Edgy MD wrote:Through much of the fifties, [stengel's] rotation was often two locks—Ford and Reynolds, perphaps—and two or maybe three guys who happened to be the hot hand at any given moment. His middle infield was an interchangeable as lego blocks, and first and third and one of the outfield slots were often in flux.That's pretty much every position player other than Mantle and Berra.
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