Teufel Is Out At Third

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The Mets have now gotten rid of both halves of the '86 2B platoon as Tim Teufel has been removed as the Mets 3B coach. Glenn Sherlock is your new one and I presume he's good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Sherlock
Sherlock is also the catching coach.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

No shit?

[Frayed Knot]

Teufel Is Out At Third

Probably because too many of our baserunners were out at home.

Glenn Sherlock is your new one and ... is also the catching coach.

No shit? Nice detective work.



oe: D'oh!

[MFS62]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: No shit?

You beat me to that by about 4 nanoseconds.
I was going to ask: Once he sends a runner home, only to be thrown out, will he be known as "No Shit, Sherlock"?

JCL,FK, great minds DO think alike.

Later

[Edgy MD]

That's pretty much two of the first guys on line to be Terry's successor sent packing.

It's good to see a catching coach back on the staff. The team has sure seemed to need one. Sherlock only became available a week ago, when the Diamondbacks let him know that they'd like to retain him, but he wouldn't be their bench coach.

Bet he's happy to lose that uniform.

[Lefty Specialist]

You could say that getting rid of Teufel was Elementary.

[Frayed Knot]

Glenn Sherlock is a 56 y/o native of Nahant*, Massachusetts, drafted by the Astros as a lefty-hitting catcher in the 21st round of the 1983 draft out of Rollins College in Florida (where he likely would have crossed paths with 'Mad Dog' Russo). He spent seven years total in the minors with Houston and with the Yanx, most of it at the lower levels, never getting the ultimate call-up.

Following his final playing season in 1989 it was with the Yanx that he got his first coaching jobs as a bullpen coach in the early '90s. He moved to Arizona at their inception as a franchise (recruited there by Showalter one would assume) and has been there ever since surviving the numerous managerial and front office changes over there across 19 seasons. Even during this recent off-season purge out there in the desert where the manager, GM, and several coaches were removed, Sherlock was not specifically let go but I guess it became apparent that he was available and was seen talking to Sandy Alderson during the recent GM meetings.

Just one of those classic 'baseball lifers'.







* Yeah, I never heard of it either. It's a 1 sq mi town with a population of 3,410 on a peninsula sticking out in the harbor north of Boston.

[MFS62]

Lefty Specialist wrote: You could say that getting rid of Teufel was Elementary.

It was a good choice.
Teufel killed more rallies than Professor Moriarty.

Later

[Ceetar]

catching instructor. I wonder if we can read into this about the Mets plans for Catcher.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I think we can (status quo with benefits). Shirley having a specialized C instructor has to be better than not having one, and a lot better than giving some guy a job just because he was a good soldier and member of the 86 Mets. It certainly doesn't appear that Tuefel's quick decision making ability earned him that gig.

[Benjamin Grimm]

My take is that they feel that Travis (and I guess Plawecki) needs more day-to-day coaching.

[A Boy Named Seo]

I know there are lots of factors involved, but are there any stats on runners getting thrown out at home?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: My take is that they feel that Travis (and I guess Plawecki) needs more day-to-day coaching.

Yes. I wanna say breaking in a catcher is like breaking in a new starting pitcher, they're inconsistent and stuff. Though dArnaud isn't exactly "breaking in" he's spent a lotta time dealing with injuries and stuff and of course managing his 75 different batting stances.

[ashie62]

MFS62 wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: You could say that getting rid of Teufel was Elementary. It was a good choice. Teufel killed more rallies than Professor Moriarty. Later

Really

[Frayed Knot]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: I know there are lots of factors involved, but are there any stats on runners getting thrown out at home?

I've never seen any although at his point there can't possibly be a stat that someone somewhere isn't recording and tracking.
Like you imply though, I'm not sure what kind of conclusions you could reach from just the raw number or even by percentage.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Frayed Knot wrote: A Boy Named Seo wrote: I know there are lots of factors involved, but are there any stats on runners getting thrown out at home? I've never seen any although at his point there can't possibly be a stat that someone somewhere isn't recording and tracking. Like you imply though, I'm not sure what kind of conclusions you could reach from just the raw number or even by percentage.

Yeap. I'm sure Teufel got a couple guys hung out to dry, like all 3rd base coaches. Was wondering if there was anything specific Tuff did, or more they just like the new dude + the catching coach, 2-for-1. I guess the latter.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Is there a limit to the number of coaches you can have? I imagine there is, but I'm not sure. Maybe they needed to replace Teufel with a guy who can provide catching instruction in order to stay under that limit.

[Edgy MD]

There is a limit to the number of coach guys you can dress for the game and allow to sit in the dugout. Catching instructors such as Sandy Alomar, Jr., on the other hand, can be assigned to the bullpen during games (though I imagine there is a limit there also).

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Francessa for what its worth -- probably nothing -- said Sherlock comes with the whiff of a future manager according to sawses.

[Frayed Knot]

He's done a few stints of managing at lower levels to date, but not a lot.

[Edgy MD]

It's amazin' that he went back to the very first year with Arizona, as bullpen coach, bench coach, and both first and third base coach.

Snake fans seeing him in a Mets uniform is going to be like that first year seeing Rube Walker and Joe Pignatano coaching for the Braves. He outlasted eight managers!

[Centerfield]

I'm good with this. Teufel sucked as a third base coach. You know how I know that? Because I never paid any attention to who was the third base coach before Teufel.

I'm having trouble even remembering any third base coaches. I know we had Cookie Rojas. And that Galante guy who's son I went to school with. But that's it.

[Edgy MD]

The New Jersey Herald has deduced that, while Teufel is indeed out at third, he has not taken his last bow. He "is to be reassigned" within the organization, so he may end up taking his cardboard box to Vegas from whence the twisted lip of Wally Backman has moved on.

The Mets should keep going. Hire Bob Watson for batting coach, Mike Moriarty for first base, and Charlie Hudson for pitching coach.

[Edgy MD]

Mets retain Teuf Stuff, naming him roving minor league instructor and team ambassador.

Mookie Wilson knows your pain.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Sure enough, dArnaud has identified his problem as a shitty batting stance (which one?) and promises to stay consistent (again).

In WW nooz, he's now engaged to Britnany, and they have November Nups planned.

http://nypost.com/2017/01/31/mets-need-their-catching-guru-to-make-travis-darnaud-a-force/

[Benjamin Grimm]

I like that he didn't make any plans for October.