2016 Baseball Cards

Zvon · February 8, 2016

I thought I was doing horrible but I ended up with a dozen Mets cards. That's not bad. I'm not counting the World Series cards ( I got 2) which I will be counting as Mets cards even if it only has the team name on the back (One has Cueto, the other has Escobar, Gordon, & d'Arnaud). Got the two top cards on my wantlist (for the entire set), Mets and "other". The Conforto rook (reg- if I ever get the camo, great, if not, don't care) and the Kris Bryant future star.

The correlation was very good. No doubles within packs (I know u get more for your buck but I still don't like those giant brick packs), card order within packs is broken down nicely. I thought I got a double of the GOODEN MLB DEBUT card but on closer inspection one has silver font and one has gold font. Everything else on the two cards are identical, but one is slightly tinted gold. What's the deal with that? I did get doubles of Wilmer and Familia. I got...I guess it's a parallel Cuddyer (it's rainbowy). And a first pitch card with Victor Espinoza in a Mets jersey.

[u:3pr8jage]Special cards[/u:3pr8jage]
[u:3pr8jage]Bergers Best:[/u:3pr8jage] I usually don't like throwback cards that don't have a regular old stat card back, but I'll make an exception with these because there's a neat portrait drawing of Sid on the card back.
[u:3pr8jage]Perspectives:[/u:3pr8jage] Kinda kool and different.
I like the alt gold border look this year. They put some thought into that.

The rest like BACK TO BACK and PRESSED INTO SERVICE are garbage, at least til I see a Met on one.

DGW: I got the Houston Street too. That's the only card I've seen that does not have the double corner fade look. Only has the fade at the bottom.

I like the design but once again, feels more like Stadium Club, and the cropping of team logos was a silly move. I mean, they pay oodles to use these logos and then then chop em up. At least ours says Met. The Yankees are the Kees.

seawolf17 · February 8, 2016

Zvon wrote:
I thought I got a double of the GOODEN MLB DEBUT card but on closer inspection one has silver font and one has gold font. Everything else on the two cards are identical, but one is slightly tinted gold. What's the deal with that? I did get doubles of Wilmer and Familia. I got...I guess it's a parallel Cuddyer (it's rainbowy). And a first pitch card with Victor Espinoza in a Mets jersey.

The MLB Debut have bronze, silver, and gold versions.

There are a number of parallels. The "rainbow foil" version you got is the most basic. There's a black & white photo parallel, and there are a number of other color parallels (gold, purple, black, etc.) where the "smoke" part of the image has some colored gridding in it.

dgwphotography · February 8, 2016

I was going to say that the collation was pretty good after I opened the two 72 count boxes I bought on Saturday, which resulted in no doubles (!).

Then I bought another 72 count box yesterday. 36 cards were doubles...

Zvon · February 8, 2016

dgwphotography wrote:
I was going to say that the collation was pretty good after I opened the two 72 count boxes I bought on Saturday, which resulted in no doubles (!).

Then I bought another 72 count box yesterday. 36 cards were doubles...

Whoa!

seawolf17 · February 8, 2016

Yeah, I had that same problem. It happens with the small boxes, unfortunately.

dgwphotography · February 8, 2016

I think it has to do with the way they are printed and cut - certain batches go to the 72 count boxes, others go to the blister packs, others go to the individual packs, and so on. I think buying a variety of packs gives you the best percentage of card variablity.

dgwphotography · February 14, 2016

Here is my need list for 2015:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vWHELrrkniyWeW2JmS64kOdMzj4_g_bCwB0PAg1_hHU/edit?usp=sharing

Zvon · February 14, 2016

dgwphotography wrote:
I think it has to do with the way they are printed and cut - certain batches go to the 72 count boxes, others go to the blister packs, others go to the individual packs, and so on. I think buying a variety of packs gives you the best percentage of card variablity.

I can tell you that in the brick packs the correlated batch flipped to an upside down card every 4 cards or so. I'm used to seeing a dozen cards or more before the flip, so that tells me they are mixing them much better. But of course, that's only within that batch. I should go back and see if there are any brick packs left of that same batch. Baseball cards don't sell like hot cakes around here.

With those 72 card bricks (a stack of 72 cards wrapped in clear plastic inside a box that's like 4 times the size of the stack) I treat the cards like a bunch of packs. I'll look at 15 of em and then put the stack down. Pick it up an hour later and look at 15 more.

Yea, I'm nutz.

dgwphotography · February 14, 2016

Zvon wrote:

dgwphotography wrote:
I think it has to do with the way they are printed and cut - certain batches go to the 72 count boxes, others go to the blister packs, others go to the individual packs, and so on. I think buying a variety of packs gives you the best percentage of card variablity.

I can tell you that in the brick packs the correlated batch flipped to an upside down card every 4 cards or so. I'm used to seeing a dozen cards or more before the flip, so that tells me they are mixing them much better. But of course, that's only within that batch. I should go back and see if there are any brick packs left of that same batch. Baseball cards don't sell like hot cakes around here.

With those 72 card bricks (a stack of 72 cards wrapped in clear plastic inside a box that's like 4 times the size of the stack) I treat the cards like a bunch of packs. I'll look at 15 of em and then put the stack down. Pick it up an hour later and look at 15 more.

Yea, I'm nutz.

Nah - It took me two weeks to open the last 2015 box I bought. I would open two packs at a time, and leave the rest.

As for collation, I've noticed that I get needed cards in groups of 3, which is interesting...

seawolf17 · February 14, 2016

dgwphotography wrote:
Here is my need list for 2015:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vWHELrrkniyWeW2JmS64kOdMzj4_g_bCwB0PAg1_hHU/edit?usp=sharing

Positive I can knock off some of those. My cards are in my office; I'll check in the morning.

seawolf17 · February 15, 2016

Have for you:
43 Starlin Castro Chicago Cubs ®
46 Wilson Ramos Washington Nationals ®
50 Yu Darvish Texas Rangers ®
53 Nathan Eovaldi Miami Marlins ®
54 Joe Nathan Detroit Tigers ®
68 Lonnie Chisenhall Cleveland Indians ®
74 Tyler Skaggs Angels ®
108 Jorge Soler Chicago Cubs® Rookie
117 Sean Doolittle Oakland Athletics ™
118 Domonic Brown Philadelphia Phillies ®
164 Brian Schlitter Chicago Cubs ®
174 Jesus Guzman Houston Astros ®
182 Devin Mesoraco Cincinnati Reds®
193 Buck Farmer Detroit Tigers® Rookie
226 Dioner Navarro Toronto Blue Jays ®
251 Anthony Rendon Washington Nationals ®
264 Tony Cingrani Cincinnati Reds®
278 David Phelps New York Yankees ®
288 Chris Parmelee Minnesota Twins ®
345 Brandon Cumpton Pittsburgh Pirates
413 Anthony Gose - Detroit Tigers
424 Michael Saunders - Toronto Blue Jays
434 Carlos Frias - Los Angeles Dodgers RC
455 Adam Lind - Milwaukee Brewers
506 Chase Anderson - Arizona Diamondbacks
522 Sam Tuivailala - St. Louis Cardinals RC
611 Gregor Blanco - San Francisco Giants
696 Boston Red Sox - Boston Red Sox

Any chance you can hit any of my needs? Link is in my last post.

dgwphotography · February 16, 2016

Wow - thanks, wolfie - I'll go through my 2015's tonight when I get home.

batmagadanleadoff · March 3, 2016

batmagadanleadoff · March 3, 2016

Remember when Clemente wore a 70's style double-knit Pirates uniform in a game at Shea in 1967? And who's "Roberto"?

Zvon · March 3, 2016

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That's a beauty.
Something seems off with the top font/name. The lack of a dot? I don't think that's it because some didn't have the dot. Font too thin? It's a little thing but it bugs me.

2016 Topps:
I suppose this is a camo one.
It would really be messed up if there are camo photos used on reg issue as well.
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Has everyone seen the reg Bautista card?
I want to show it but it's a "WOW" card and I don't want to ruin the fun of first seeing this come out of a pack.

Oh, also, my fav side dish this year have to be the Wacky Packs cards.
But get this, I've made 3 BB card runs so far this season. I got 3 of the same Wacky Packs card! The only ones I got. I don't even want to know what the Mets one looks like yet, but I want it bad (I think there's one for every team). I might go for this entire subset.
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seawolf17 · March 3, 2016

It's a small subset -- six cards. Got the Royals one if you want it.

The Bautista is excellent. The photography is very good this year.

Zvon · March 3, 2016

seawolf17 wrote:
It's a small subset -- six cards. Got the Royals one if you want it.

The Bautista is excellent. The photography is very good this year.

Only six? That sucks.
I just don't understand Topps anymore. The Royals? Gah!
Is there a Mets one? There better be or I'll have to make one.

One odd behavior that I didn't realize was a habit until this season, I guess because it's been so long in between trips, is I pull the cards of the players on the team we played in the world series. I have a little stack of Royals. I found myself doing this and thinking back, and in 87,74, even 70, I did the same thing. Pulled the Bo-Sox, the A's, and the Orioles (& I would pull and follow these players for years in many cases). Didn't do it in 2001. Saw no need for a pile of Yankee cards.

I bet we all have wacky card habits. Anyone else do this?

seawolf17 · March 4, 2016

Yes, there is a Mets one.

They're a preview for an "MLB Wacky Packages" set that's coming out later this spring, which is why it's small.

Zvon · March 4, 2016

seawolf17 wrote:
Yes, there is a Mets one.

They're a preview for an "MLB Wacky Packages" set that's coming out later this spring, which is why it's small.

Oh. That's kool. Wacky cards just for baseball? I like

Zvon · March 11, 2016

WAX PACK GODS wrote up BASEBALL CARD WEBSITES: THE ULTIMATE GUIDE TO 400+ OF THE BEST HOBBY SITES and the Pool gets a mention.

http://waxpackgods.com/baseball-card-websites/

.pdf here:
http://waxpackgods.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/The-Ultimate-Guide-to-Baseball-Cards-on-the-Web.pdf

March 12, 2016

Only forum in ALL CAPS!!

Zvon · March 30, 2016

So I picked up my first Heritage cards this season. I prefer packs but they didn't have any, only the small blister boxes with a brick of 35 cards in plastic. I got 3 boxes @10 bucks each. I figure these are from the same batch and I'm hoping for minimal doubles.

So I ripped open my first box and I get this:

Now back in the day while collecting Mets cards I saved cello & rack packs if they had Mets on top. Not always, but if it was a Strawman or Gooden, Keith or Carter,..in other words my favorite Mets. I had a fantastic collection (also non Mets- like a Cello w/Boggs rook on top). I remember when I got Gregg Jefferies FUTURE STAR card on top of a rack pack I thought-"I'm gonna save this and make a MINT in about 15 years." Haha.

I no longer have that collection and now I am debating whether I should open this or save it. If it was a player it would be a very hard call to make. I'd deff save a Reynolds rook. Is Conforto's Heritage a rookie? Would any of you other collectors save it unopened?

I also have to add- ugh, I hate to nitpick but to me it matters. The printing & font of METS on the 1967 Topps card is not a difficult thing to reproduce in its exactitude. I do it all the time. But 2016 Heritage couldn't get it right. Wtf? And it's a simple case of the space between the letters. Now you may say this is anal, but a card border is like a finger print to me and I see no good reason why they shouldn't match.
They could have pulled the M closer to the other letters, or could have spaced them equally off the M. Instead they do both. Shoddy.

Actual 67' Topps card:

seawolf17 · March 31, 2016

I feel like Heritage juuuuust misses the design every year, which is always bizarre to me.

That said, no, I don't know that there's any benefit to keeping this sealed.

Zvon · March 31, 2016

I couldn't keep it closed. I did horrible overall, only 7 Mets out of 105 cards. But 2 of the cards made up for it.

So when I saw the Conforto Rook I was like:

[fimg=400]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fHPcR4sW3bA/Vv2jzEoExRI/AAAAAAAAmTg/N112QdPgqXYHsUrTn4-1XXQ49QHAOJpmwCCo/s720-Ic42/HERTGConforto-Nola%2BROOK.png[/fimg]
Conforto shares a rookie card with Nola! The locals are very high on Nola.
In 15 years this card will be worth a mint. ha

And then when I got the deGrom refractor I was like:

[fimg=400]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qAkXPrd5Y70/Vv2j0NmdJdI/AAAAAAAAmTk/Ol1Y-V1UfJ0j6aMNTeH99y0KY93lE4LlwCCo/s512-Ic42/deGromHERTGrefractor.png[/fimg]

ashie62 · April 1, 2016

seawolf17 wrote:
I feel like Heritage juuuuust misses the design every year, which is always bizarre to me.

That said, no, I don't know that there's any benefit to keeping this sealed.

65-66-67 were the years I was waiting for and for 67 they missed the color and gloss. Cheap stock maybe.

Zvon · April 1, 2016

Ashie62 wrote:

seawolf17 wrote:
I feel like Heritage juuuuust misses the design every year, which is always bizarre to me.

That said, no, I don't know that there's any benefit to keeping this sealed.

65-66-67 were the years I was waiting for and for 67 they missed the color and gloss. Cheap stock maybe.

Stock feels super solid to me. If I fling one at someone they better duck. But yes, it's finish is almost the opposite of gloss, which is disappointing. You can't get any flatter than that. I also got a Josh Donaldson refractor, although not blue bordered like the deGrom. White border. With this set the gloss look of the refractor makes the regular card look extra dull. So the refractors would be the way to go with these, and who can be bothered?

If I get one in a pack or box great, if not I'm not gonna go too crazy. The hobby is becoming too elite for me.

Zvon · April 25, 2016

I got 4 packs of Wacky Packages today. And a box of Heritage, which I really didn't want, so that's a sign I'm getting carried away. Lilbit.

Wolfy, I could swear I posted this here or on fb but I see no evidence of it. Maybe I PM'd it, haven't checked.
RE: the ARCHIVE set. Between my brother and I we only found 11 cards that you needed. This was a while ago. I dunno if it's worth mailing but I will if you still need 'em and want 'em. I haven't bought any more Archives since then- I haven't seen them out there. I have which cards listed on a pad that I can't find atm. Sorry I lost track of this.

So the Wacky Packages:
First pack, first team card,of course it's going to be the Royals. I wouldn't have it any other way. But then The Cubs, the Braves, and the Yankees. GAH! Second pack, Phillies, NOOOOO! I can't take this!
Next card, yeaaaaaaaaa, Mets. Mets N.Y. Deli Meat Mitts. Lunch meat made from old baseball mitts. Haha. I scanned it but showing the card would be a spoiler with these. They are the funniest the first time you see them. I will show the Yankees though. Because fk 'em & this is pretty kool.

Heritage: Doing HORRIBLE! 9 packs: 1 Met, Cuddyer, 1 pack left.
I did get a World Series card and I almost wish I didn't, because now I'll want all of these.
Very kool but very awful quality B&W image used on this one.

I have 2 Wacky Packs left. If I get anything worthwhile I will report in later.

batmagadanleadoff · April 25, 2016

Heritage:
I did get a World Series card and I almost wish I didn't, because now I'll want all of these.
Very kool but very awful quality B&W image used on this one.

There's a color variation of that card. Either it's very rare, or some seller's crazy, because the ask for that card on ebay is $129.99.

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batmagadanleadoff · April 25, 2016

Heritage:
I did get a World Series card and I almost wish I didn't, because now I'll want all of these.
Very kool but very awful quality B&W image used on this one.

There's a color variation of that card. Either it's very rare, or some seller's crazy, because the ask for that card on ebay is $129.99.

[fimg=666]https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1701/26535934422_111d32f2be_o.jpg[/fimg]

Here's the whole Topps Heritage 2016 WS set. It's extremely Royal-centric -- even more so than you'd expect given that the Royals won the damn thing four games to one. Game three - the Mets lone win in the Series - isn't included in the set.

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Zvon · April 25, 2016

Whoa, I had to cover my eyes. I'll see them for the first time myself, thanks.

Could the color one be like a plate or something? My first thought was these need to be in color, but if they are already out there I won't bother.
Far from my fav WS design, even tho I realize they're tied to 1967.

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