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Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket
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I dunno. I'm really disappointed in how poorly they played in this series. They were obviously a good enough team to get there, and I'm sad for myself and also, that they didn't show the world nearly what they were capable of.

I know it was a lot of freaky stuff but beyond a few great SP efforts and Granderson generally we played terribly in this series. Hit bad, fielded bad, executed bad.


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Guest El Segundo Escupidor
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Ashie62 wrote:
Serenity now. I am not losing it over a sporting event.

Perhaps if you were 1-5 attending WS games including two elimination games you'd have a different perspective.


Guest cooby classic
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Yes I think we are all more mature. I remember after the 2000 Series I cried for three days until my husband finally told me to snap out of it.


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Lol I kept playing Reba's 'I Guess the World Didn't Stop For My Broken Heart'


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cooby wrote:
Yes I think we are all more mature. I remember after the 2000 Series I cried for three days until my husband finally told me to snap out of it.


Can't say that I cried, but I was much more upset in 2000. The winning team being who they were might've had something to do with that.


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cooby wrote:
Yes I think we are all more mature. I remember after the 2000 Series I cried for three days until my husband finally told me to snap out of it.

The only times I've cried as a result of a sporting event were
1982 World Cup Semi-Final
2000 World Series
2006 Champions League Final
And this.
EDIT: 2006 World Cup Final too
Maybe this should been better suited for the confession thread.


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Indeed. For me was also because my favorite player made the 'error' that lost the game, Jay Payton.

Never thought it fair that a thrown ball hitting a runner should be an error but that's the rule


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Frustrated, in that:

- these chances don't come along all that often so, when they do, you need to seize them or at least put up a good fight; we did pretty much the opposite in this one aside from some good starting pitcing. And the talk about how this season is the year we 'took back the city' and is just the beginning of a string of good seasons to come ... well I heard the same song back when some fans were spouting their 'it's all right' attitude after losing to StL in 2006.

- we've now lost 8 of the last 10 WS games we've played. And although there's obviously no correlation between the 2000 team and this one so any conclusions about 'lacking character' or other such silly notions connecting the two don't really apply, those 8 losses have included three extra-inning games, plus two one-run defeats and two two-run defeats. IOW, other than the Game 2 loss to KC, every game has been winnable. Toss out our semi-blowout in Game 3 and they've essentially had 8 close games and lost 7 of them, including several where they held late leads.


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I do think it's the beginning of a string of excellence. I've been using the term "golden era" or "golden age" and I've been using it at least since spring. I know I didn't suggest any such thing in 2006.


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2006 featured a lot of experienced vets who began showing their age in ensuing years.
2015 featured a lot of hot young players. They could just be getting started (yay!) or they may have peaked early (boo!). Time will tell.


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Or they may continue to be a good (or very good) team for the next five years but miss the World Series each time.

There's no point in fretting about the possibilities. Let's just hope they field a good team each year, and if they make it into October, we root for them just like we did this year.

Nothing is guaranteed. We shouldn't expect anything to be guaranteed.


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That would be kind of boring anyhow.


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Mets � Willets Point wrote:
2006 featured a lot of experienced vets who began showing their age in ensuing years.
2015 featured a lot of hot young players. They could just be getting started (yay!) or they may have peaked early (boo!). Time will tell.


I think a lot of that is hindsight. The 2006 Mets were pretty well positioned to at least be competitive for a few more years and it took some absurd things for it not to happen.

I do think this team is _better_ positioned, but hell, over a short 5 or 7 game series you could run into anything. Even if the Mets were to sign Tulowitski and Giancarlo Stanton it's still a safer bet that they DON'T make it as far as they did this year.

I'll enjoy 2016 for 2016 and hope and promise don't alter my feelings about 2015.


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Oh and if they made the postseason for five more consecutive years that would be awesome, failing to win the World Series notwithstanding. The Mets record for consecutive postseason appearances is two!


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Exactly. My next goal is to have them win, for the first time, two consecutive division titles. I won't concern myself with getting to or winning the World Series until they clinch a playoff spot. First things first.


Guest El Segundo Escupidor
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No worries, you'll be lucky, proud and surprised again in another 15 years.


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That's exactly why I think some fans haven't fully grasped the enormity of what transpired this week. Just go through the end of the Game 1 IGT, you read comments like: "that's ok we'll get them tomorrow" like its a freaking 3 game series in May.


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We will get them tomorrow, though. Tomorrow being Opening Day 2016, a contest in which the defending champs are frankly doomed.


Guest El Segundo Escupidor
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My point is that people shouldn't judge the performance of the team based on their personal (selfish?)expectations. You judge them on how much they played to their potential. And most people will argue that in the WS, they came up well short.


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I guess I would argue that my own personal (selfish or otherwise) expectation for this team back in March was 84 wins and missing out on the postseason.

Should they have won the World Series? I don't know, man...I'm still shocked they were playing. That's not to say I don't think they deserved to be there...but I don't necessarily feel cheated.

This team had weaknesses. The weaknesses were exposed.


Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket
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Let's be honest with ourselves: Regardless of your expectations going into the year, and notwithstanding how heroically and deservedly they earned their way in, we have to confront the reality that the Mets played like absolute shit in this series, and that really sucks. We all understand how hard it is to get in. Then to go out and put up 4 stinkers out of 5. So disheartening. I feel like they owed themselves, and the baseball-watching world, a better effort.


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I picked them to be 82-80. So I was in 'gravy mode' from mid-September on.

I know it's hard to get to the World Series but this year was a genie you can't stuff back into the bottle. The front office made moves that resulted in a National League championship. Next year, when moves need to be made, they won't be able to sit on their hands as they did from 2009-14. The eye level has been raised.

That said, Wilpons cheap, yada,yada,yada. They could tighten the purse strings, but the Madoff excuse no longer applies. You did it once, you can do it again.


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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Let's be honest with ourselves: Regardless of your expectations going into the year, and notwithstanding how heroically and deservedly they earned their way in, we have to confront the reality that the Mets played like absolute shit in this series, and that really sucks. We all understand how hard it is to get in. Then to go out and put up 4 stinkers out of 5. So disheartening. I feel like they owed themselves, and the baseball-watching world, a better effort.

This.

If they played like they did in the Cubs or Dodgers series and lost, it would have hurt a lot less. From the Cespedes failed circus trick in Game 1 to Muffy's error in Game 5, their performance was a dog's breakfast.


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