dinosaur jesus Old-Timey Member Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 Ceetar wrote:dinosaur jesus wrote:Edgy MD wrote:Kingman 76 was certainly one I was thinking of.Not so much. He did have a 41-game stretch in 1976 (April 27-June 10) where he hit 15 home runs. His line was .244 / .275 / .549, with 25 runs scored and 33 rbi. But Strawberry had a stretch in 1990 that beats Cespedes. From June 8 to July 25 (41 games), his line was .336 / .421 / .718 // 1.139, with 17 home runs, 34 runs scored, and 42 rbi. The Mets went 30-11, and went from 9 1/2 games behind the Pirates to 1/2 game back. That doesn't have the neat storyline of what Cespedes has done, but it's pretty stunning.Where'd you pull that from?I looked at player game logs on Baseball Reference, and selected stretches of games where there seemed to be a lot of home runs. For Strawberry, I looked at his big years of 1987, 1988, and 1990, and 1984, since I know he got really hot after a slow start.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 If he's asking for that $175 million over six years, that's not unreasonable. I mean, it's not unreasonable for him to ask for that. Whether it's reasonable for him to get that is another story.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 This just in: Cespedes has been named NL Player of the Week for next week.lololollol
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 dinosaur jesus wrote:Edgy MD wrote:Kingman 76 was certainly one I was thinking of.Not so much. He did have a 41-game stretch in 1976 (April 27-June 10) where he hit 15 home runs. His line was .244 / .275 / .549, with 25 runs scored and 33 rbi. But Strawberry had a stretch in 1990 that beats Cespedes. From June 8 to July 25 (41 games), his line was .336 / .421 / .718 // 1.139, with 17 home runs, 34 runs scored, and 42 rbi. The Mets went 30-11, and went from 9 1/2 games behind the Pirates to 1/2 game back. That doesn't have the neat storyline of what Cespedes has done, but it's pretty stunning.Straw's 1990 stretch landed him on the cover of SI.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 You know what's cool? If the Mets lose in the first round, Cespedes signs somewhere else, and then Fulmer ends up being a perennial ace, we can then blame Jeff Wilpon!
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 If that happens, it's still a good trade.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 All kidding aside, yes. Agreed. A trade that had to be made.And I am saying this even if Cespedes signs elsewhere.Let me also say this early on, if the bidding for Cespedes gets into crazy territory because of what he has done the last few weeks (as opposed to career norms and projections) I am completely fine with management if they don't fall into that trap.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 This just in: Cespedes has been named NL Player of the Week for next week.lololollolStole that one from old Ch 11 sportscaster Jerry Girard who used the line with Wayne Gretzsky a whole buncha years ago.Michael Fulmer is a promising pitcher -- as any 1S round pick should be (44th overall in 2011 out of HS in Oklahoma) who got off to good enough years in '11-'13 to land him on the back of BA's top-100 by 2013 (98th to be precise). But then he stumbled badly in 2014 and injuries limited to 20 starts and also a 5.31 ERA mostly at high-A PSL.2015 was a significant bounce-back year for him as he went 10-3, 2.24 over 22 starts in AA with all his numbers going in the right direction. I expect he'll be on the prospect lists next year, probably even top-50, which is a nice place to be for a guy who won't turn 23 until next spring, but of course it's also that bounce-back which made him good enough bait to land Cespedes without touching anyone from the big club.But he's still just a prospect and hardly a guaranteed stud (and remember the saying about pitching prospects - TINSTAAPP) at a position where we're strongest - so I make this move ten times out of ten even without the guarantee of Cespedes beyond the rest-e-dis year. And if Fulmer beats the odds and becomes an ace in the next couple of years, well then we're just going to have to live with it.
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted September 15, 2015 Author Posted September 15, 2015 Even if Fulmer becomes an ace, I still do the deal. Cespedes electrified this offense. Yes, he had help, but it all fell into place with his acquisition. And yes, even if he walks. They grabbed for the brass ring, and they didn't give up someone who figured into their short-range plans.
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