I.G.T. 9/4/15 Mets @ Stonybrook alum

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

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[Guest d'Kong76]

The devil is Prado.

[Frayed Knot]

I questioned that move from Goeddel. Not that he was great, but if there were several LHBs in a row then maybe you go to O'Flaherty but what worked for the first batter didn't work twice.

[Fman99]

Enough already.

[TransMonk]

I never need to see O'Flaherty pitch again.

[Frayed Knot]

Frayed Knot wrote: I questioned that move from Goeddel. Not that he was great, but if there were several LHBs in a row then maybe you go to O'Flaherty but what worked for the first batter didn't work twice.

On the other hand, it's not like he was our biggest problem tonight. It was not a well-played game from the git-go.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I think Terry put O'Flaherty in the game because he was tired and wanted to end the game and go back to the hotel.

[Zvon]

[Frayed Knot]

A double walk-off bummer of a night.

[Zvon]

We still got cush. We need 2 of 3 here. This must be the one we lose.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I don't think I'm terribly prone to reactionary behavior as a fan. But I stopped in here on the way home from work to note that it's probably best for us to end this O'Flaherty experiment, by which I mean that we should out for a ride in the country, tell him to think about the rabbits, and chop up the remains until nothing is recognizable as reliever-shaped any longer.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

As soon as Terry brought "White Flag" O'Flaherty in to pitch, I mentally marked this game up as a loss.

TransMonk wrote: I never need to see O'Flaherty pitch again.

I haven't seen him pitch yet, but simply reading of it on Gamecast pains me.

[Zvon]

I just watched the end again and I can't hang this on uh-O'Flaherty. He came in and got a big out and I thought he looked good against Prado, until Prado does what he does, which is hit well. He got him 0-2, then picked away until it was full. The payoff pitch was not a bad one.

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Mex hit the nail on the head. If Johnson was guarding the line, and maybe even playing a normal first base, that's an out.

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That sucks because we really needed to see a good outing from the lad. I kinda think we did. He was spotting his fastball and had some movement. He certainly didn't look as bad as he has.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Rockin' Doc wrote: As soon as Terry brought "White Flag" O'Flaherty in to pitch, I mentally marked this game up as a loss.

Me too. What was he thinking? Terry's bullpen decisions will make me crazy if I let them. Extra-inning road games seem to be especially maddening. If the Mets are playing in October I may have to watch with my eyes closed.

[Frayed Knot]

What he was thinking was that the Marlins had 3 LHBs in the next 4 hitters and the winning run was already on base.
I said in the thread that I would have stuck with Goeddel but of course he was the guy who put the winning run there in the first place and gave up hits to 2 of the 6 batters he faced so it's not like that was a sure thing either. Nor was it like the rest of the pen was in shutdown mode: Gilmartin: 2 batters/2 hits; Reed: 5 batters, 2 hits/1 BB
Robles pitched a perfect 8th but it seems to me that if Terry had stuck with him after the Mets tied it up rather than go to Clippard then we'd be complaining about that.

I'd argue that the move to make would have been to bring Clippard back for a 2nd inning after his 1-hit/10-pitch 8th since you weren't forced to take him out via a PH move. Then you'd play it by ear after that.
The Nats, after mgr Williams took a bunch of heat for not using Storen & Papelbon enough or correctly, used Papelbon for two innings last night and he wound up being the winning pitcher even after giving up singles to his first two hitters. But they also had the advantage of being at home and not being burdened by that 'Save the Closer' thing. It also makes your bullpen mgmt look better when your offense scores 1 in the 9th then 3 more in the 10th.