Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Astros get Scott Kazmir for two minor leaguers (neither one Bartolome Fortunato) .... C Jacob Nottingham and right-hander Daniel Mengden, both look they could be prospects.

Edited July 23, 2015 by Guest

[Frayed Knot]

11 years (minus a week) from when he was first traded.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

It begins.

Come on, Jonny Boy. Do your thing tomorrow. Up that leverage.

[Edgy MD]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Astros get Scott Kazmir for two minor leaguers (neither one Bartolome Fortunato) .... C Jacob Nottingham and right-hander Daniel Mengden, both look they could be prospects.

BatMengdenLeadoff!!!

Let's make this the Deadline Dealios Thread.

[dgwphotography]

Aramis Ramirez is now a Pirate

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/aramis-ramirez-pirates-trade.html

[nymr83]

dgwphotography wrote: Aramis Ramirez is now a Pirate http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/aramis-ramirez-pirates-trade.html

He is now a Pirate AGAIN, ESPN says today is 12 years to the day since they sent him to Chicago (along with Kenny Lofton) for Matt Bruback, Jose Hernandez, and Bobby Hill.

Pirates got ripped off then i think?

[A Boy Named Seo]

dgwphotography wrote: Aramis Ramirez is now a Pirate http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/aramis-ramirez-pirates-trade.html

I don't know if we truly dodged that bullet or not, but I didn't like hearing his name linked with the Mets. Enjoy, Pittsburgh.

[TransMonk]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: I don't know if we truly dodged that bullet or not, but I didn't like hearing his name linked with the Mets. Enjoy, Pittsburgh.

Agreed. I personally would have waved the white flag if this was the move the Mets made.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Aramis Ramirez is now a Pirate http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/aramis-ramirez-pirates-trade.html I don't know if we truly dodged that bullet or not, but I didn't like hearing his name linked with the Mets. Enjoy, Pittsburgh.

I didn't necessarily mind his name linked with us, as he's been hitting quite a bit better over the last month or so; I think it was more the idea of giving up something-- anything-- of value to get him that bugged me.

That said, a couple of key hits this week notwithstanding, watching Campbell at-bats makes me feel like I should be tallying them with penknife cuts in a wall, or my arm.

[smg58]

Ramirez has been swinging the bat quite a bit better lately, and he was obtained for a relief prospect who currently has a 4.60 ERA and 1.72 WHIP in AAA. I would have upped the bid on that.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Looks like Steve Cishek to the Cardinals. Mets will miss having him to beat up on.

[nymr83]

Twitter rumor have Juan Uribe and Kelly Johnson to the Mets

[Frayed Knot]

Padres reportedly seeking one "high end" prospect in return for Justin Upton and "possibly two", a price which reportedly has the Mets backing off. [sez: MLB.com]
Upton, hitting .248 w/15 HRs, has the pro-rated portion of his $14.5mil contract remaining for this season at which point he can be a FA. Any team acquiring him this year can NOT extend a qualifying offer to him for the purposes of recouping a pick in next year's amateur draft.

[Frayed Knot]

Cueto apparently on the verge of being a Royal.
Code not yet cracked to make it official or know the price.

[Edgy MD]

They haven't got word in the SNY booth, but the Internet is exploding.

Could be huge.

[Frayed Knot]

Three LHPs was the price for Cueto: Brandon Finnegan (who pitched part of last year and this w/KC), plus minor leaguers John Lamb (a 24 y/o who was 9-1, 2.67 at AAA Omaha) and Cody Reed (22 y/o, recently promoted to AA).

Edited July 26, 2015 by Guest

[Edgy MD]

Finnegan struck me as purty good. But they've used him only out of the pen.

[ashie62]

SN Nation, not sure who they are, has Wheeler going for Cespedes or Bruce.

Fine by me.

[TransMonk]

Wheeler's too much to give for either of those, IMO. Plus he's on the DL.

[Frayed Knot]

Ashie62 wrote: SN Nation, not sure who they are, has Wheeler going for Cespedes or Bruce.

Sounds like SN stands for 'Speculation Nation' to me.
Actually 'Sports Nation' is an umbrella grouping for all kinds of sites so that "info" can be anything from sourced rumors to fan-boi blabbering.

Regardless of which, dealing Wheeler now would be all kinds of problematic. He won't pitch in the big leagues for nearly another year still so it's both tough to figure teams giving up too much to get him and it would be an ultimate 'sell low' situation for the Mets. He may ultimately be traded, I just don't think it's going to be now.

[ashie62]

If Cincy or Detroit can Be stoopId enough to consider this and act all I can say is LETS GO METS!

[Edgy MD]

I think it's more likely that Sandy's declaration that his "big four" of young pitchers was untouchable got some excitable over-thinkers concluding, "OMYGAWD, he's actively shopping Wheeler!!"

Then they filled out their own wish lists, and it suddenly qualified as an active rumor, despite no real information credited to official sources.

[TransMonk]

Yeah...I consider Wheeler part of the Mets plan going forward.

If Wheeler can fully recover from TJ, I salivate thinking of being able to start a young flamethrower that can hit 94 MPH or more in every single game (barring injury, regression, YYYBBB). Add Familia to the back end (along with Parnell and Mejia if they continue to improve and be effective) and HOLY MOLY it would be like hitting the gas on every opposing team and very rarely taking the foot off.

[seawolf17]

Edgy MD wrote: Finnegan struck me as purty good. But they've used him only out of the pen.

I've been playing OOTP16; in June 2015, I traded Daniel Murphy to the Royals for Finnegan straight up. Murphy played out the string in KC, then signed a two-year deal in LA, followed by a one-year deal in MIN. He went 8-for-41 as a Twin, got hurt, and retired.

It's 2021; Finnegan has been an ace lefty out of my pen, even finishing third in the 2020 Cy Young race as a middle reliever. I just signed him to a three-year, $26M extension.

[Ceetar]

TransMonk wrote: Yeah...I consider Wheeler part of the Mets plan going forward. If Wheeler can fully recover from TJ, I salivate thinking of being able to start a young flamethrower that can hit 94 MPH or more in every single game (barring injury, regression, YYYBBB). Add Familia to the back end (along with Parnell and Mejia if they continue to improve and be effective) and HOLY MOLY it would be like hitting the gas on every opposing team and very rarely taking the foot off.

The Mets already throw harder than every team in baseball, by a wide margin, and that's including Bartolo Colon!

[Frayed Knot]

seawolf17 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Finnegan struck me as purty good. But they've used him only out of the pen. I've been playing OOTP16; in June 2015, I traded Daniel Murphy to the Royals for Finnegan straight up. Murphy played out the string in KC, then signed a two-year deal in LA, followed by a one-year deal in MIN. He went 8-for-41 as a Twin, got hurt, and retired. It's 2021; Finnegan has been an ace lefty out of my pen, even finishing third in the 2020 Cy Young race as a middle reliever. I just signed him to a three-year, $26M extension.

So what you're saying is that Finnegan left Murphy in his wake?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I can definitely see Muffy getting injured as a member of the Twins.

[TransMonk]

Ceetar wrote: The Mets already throw harder than every team in baseball, by a wide margin, and that's including Bartolo Colon!

I want a wider margin...and to not have to include a guy in his mid-40s who has an ERA above 4 and a half.

[Frayed Knot]

Shane Victorino from BoSox to Angels

[Gwreck]

Tulowitzki to Blue Jays (!!), for Jose and prospects.