"Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 2015

[Ceetar]

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Is it me, or does it seem like teams are using longer and longer rehab periods for guys on the DL? Is seems like there used to be a game or two in the minors, then back in the majors. I read this week that the team wants Travis to get 20 to 25 ABs before coming back. That's four or five games, seemingly adding about a week to his already long DL stint.

well, that was the MO with Travis last time too. I think it's specific to his age and position in his case. I remember Wright rushing through like 2 rehab games a couple of years ago. There's probably something to be said for getting your timing down against lesser pitchers.

[Edgy MD]

I imagine a longer rehab period correlates with a longer DL stint.

And obviously, with d'Arnaud, there's getting your timing back at the plate, but there's also getting physically and mentally prepared to catch nine innings in July. And then do it again the next day. Similarly, starting pitchers tend to get a little longer time on the farm than relievers, so's'n' they can go multiple innings upon their returns.

[Frayed Knot]

d'Arnaud hit (1-3) and caught 7 innings at Bingo tonight and should be on track for the Nats series this weekend.

[Edgy MD]

Cuddy due back on Friday. Speculation says that Conforto goes down, but all my sense says it should be Campbell. Apart from the everybody-hates-him factor, it keeps the lefty/righty balance, and Campbell's not getting infield appearances anymore. He's limited to leftfield cameos against lefties and very limited walk-ons at first. That's pretty much what Cuddy will be looking at, no?

[MFS62]

Yes.
But there you go, trying to be logical again. We should have learned by now that these kinds of things sometimes defy logic.
Campbell has proven harder to get rid of than a condo in Florida.
He still might last this one out until the rosters expand in September.

Later

[Gwreck]

Jerry Blevins fell down, re-fractured his arm, out for year.

[MFS62]

Gwreck wrote: Jerry Blevins fell down, re-fractured his arm, out for year.

I'm checking my calendar.
Is it April 1?
Nope.
I guess its not the punch line to an April Fools joke.
Shitfuck.

Later

[Edgy MD]

Fell off a curb Monday night.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Unreal.

[Centerfield]

WE SHOULD HAVE LOCKED THIS THREAD.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Edgy MD wrote: Cuddy due back on Friday. Speculation says that Conforto goes down, but all my sense says it should be Campbell. Apart from the everybody-hates-him factor, it keeps the lefty/righty balance, and Campbell's not getting infield appearances anymore. He's limited to leftfield cameos against lefties and very limited walk-ons at first. That's pretty much what Cuddy will be looking at, no?

Yeah, and I'm of the mind that Campy has finally turned a corner.

More interesting will be who goes when Wright returns, assuming* everything else remains the same. I suppose they would demote Flores although it could come down to Muffy/Johnson!

*-Wood, knocked

Edgy MD wrote: Fell off a curb Monday night.

You must have left out "Got shitfaced, then..." Or maybe "fell off a curb" is a euphamism for "bar fight?"

[Frayed Knot]

I remember when the (NHL) Rangers' Brian Leech screwed up his ankle in a curb-related incident, but at least then it was winter and it was icy so there was a partial excuse.

Edited August 6, 2015 by Guest

[Edgy MD]

What self-respecting hockey player would use ice as an excuse?

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Cuddy due back on Friday. Speculation says that Conforto goes down, but all my sense says it should be Campbell. Apart from the everybody-hates-him factor, it keeps the lefty/righty balance, and Campbell's not getting infield appearances anymore. He's limited to leftfield cameos against lefties and very limited walk-ons at first. That's pretty much what Cuddy will be looking at, no? Yeah, and I'm of the mind that Campy has finally turned a corner. More interesting will be who goes when Wright returns, assuming* everything else remains the same. I suppose they would demote Flores although it could come down to Muffy/Johnson! *-Wood, knocked Edgy MD wrote: Fell off a curb Monday night. You must have left out "Got shitfaced, then..." Or maybe "fell off a curb" is a euphamism for "bar fight?"

With regard to the curb, I was going to go with something along the lines of "It's unclear whether he hit the curb going out or coming in, or if he continued to party on like a champ." Total David Wells of an injury. I'm sure TMZ will have an eyewitness account within the hour possibly with grainy cellphone video.

With regard to Wright, I'm guessing there won't be more than a week or so to go before rosters expand at that point, so it's probably not a big whoop. It'll be whoever has options (Conforto!), or whoever falls off a curb between now and then (smart money? Murphy!).

[Benjamin Grimm]

We should have assigned somebody to walk in front of Jerry Blevins to make sure there were no banana peels in his path.

[Edgy MD]

Steve Gelbs wrote: The New York Mets today announced that lefthanded pitcher Jerry Blevins will likely undergo surgery in Boston next week on the distal radius bone in his left arm. The bone was originally fractured by a line drive during a game at Citi Field on April 19. Blevins had recently resumed throwing, but on Monday evening, August 3, he slipped while stepping off a curb and re-fractured the same bone. It is unlikely that Blevins will return to play with the Mets this season.

[Edgy MD]

Jerry Blevins still, somehow, aiming to come back in 2015.

It's amazin' how athletes maintain such lofty and seemingly unrealistic goals, but I guess it's the sort of crazy ambition that gets them started in the morning.

[dgwphotography]

Uh oh..

Adam Rubin wrote: Rafael Montero had an issue during Sunday's rehab appearance and is not going to be back with the #Mets anytime soon, in any capacity.

[Edgy MD]

And then Twitter users assume he's got character and "head" issues.

[Zvon]

So he gets to say that without any details as to what or why?

[Edgy MD]

He does!

[Ceetar]

Zvon wrote: So he gets to say that without any details as to what or why?

Sports Journalism 101, best way to get page views for your morning post.

[MFS62]

First Puello, now this.
It hasn't been a good year for my adoptees.

Later

[Edgy MD]

He was probably #6 on the depth chart for opening day, 2016. Now he seemingly falls back to the pack with Verrett, Gabriel Ynoa, possibly Sean Gilmartin, and others. And that's assuming whatever complications we're talking about won't interfere with opening day 2016. Big if.

For this season, well, it definitely leads me to take Tim Stauffer a lot more seriously.

[dgwphotography]

http://nypost.com/2015/08/17/mets-writing-off-rafael-montero-after-latest-setback/

I keep reading how the Mets find nothing structurally wrong, he's still complaining of discomfort, and fans (and some management) are questioning his head. Am I the only one reminded of J.R. Richard here?

[Ceetar]

dgwphotography wrote: http://nypost.com/2015/08/17/mets-writing-off-rafael-montero-after-latest-setback/ I keep reading how the Mets find nothing structurally wrong, he's still complaining of discomfort, and fans (and some management) are questioning his head. Am I the only one reminded of J.R. Richard here?

The Mets kept finding nothing wrong with John Maine to the point of calling him a liar, turned out they needed to do a different type of MRI and he'd been injured all along.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Ceetar wrote: http://nypost.com/2015/08/17/mets-writing-off-rafael-montero-after-latest-setback/ I keep reading how the Mets find nothing structurally wrong, he's still complaining of discomfort, and fans (and some management) are questioning his head. Am I the only one reminded of J.R. Richard here? The Mets kept finding nothing wrong with John Maine to the point of calling him a liar, turned out they needed to do a different type of MRI and he'd been injured all along.

That's not an accurate description of what happened. The club suspected he was hurting, but Maine repeatedly denied it.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: http://nypost.com/2015/08/17/mets-writing-off-rafael-montero-after-latest-setback/ I keep reading how the Mets find nothing structurally wrong, he's still complaining of discomfort, and fans (and some management) are questioning his head. Am I the only one reminded of J.R. Richard here? The Mets kept finding nothing wrong with John Maine to the point of calling him a liar, turned out they needed to do a different type of MRI and he'd been injured all along. That's not an accurate description of what happened. The club suspected he was hurting, but Maine repeatedly denied it.

he DID have (at least) two tests that found nothing. He did the opposite of what Montero did, in that he ignored it because otherwise you get speeches from your manager about manning up.

[Edgy MD]

Again, what you describe is the opposite of what happened.

You describe Maine complaining that he was hurting and the Mets calling him a liar, and Maine being vindicated when it turned out he was hurt.

What actually happened is that Maine "manned up" voluntarily insisting he wasn't hurting when his coaches and manager observed that he seemed to be. When they (responsibly) removed him quickly from the game, the word liar was used by his pitching coach as sort of a manly complement, if a frustrated one, as he insisted that Maine should have been honest. It's the manager and pitching coach who turned out to be vindicated.

[Ceetar]

no, actually, what happened is exactly as I describe, there was an injury that was discovered medically after repeated attempts to pitch.

I'm suggesting that just because what the Mets have looked at so far doesn't show an obvious injury, doesn't mean there isn't one and that that's a much more logical hypothesis than he's a headcase. I cited one example. It happens all the time though, in non-sports situations as well. Doctors miss things, the human body is complicated. One person's minor hip injury is another's degenerative hip condition.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

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