Paternity Leave

[Centerfield]

Murph out tonight on paternity leave. Assuming mother and baby are fine, this seems unnecessary no? I mean. Play with the kid during the day, then get your ass to the ballpark.

Or am I just being old-fashioned, close-minded, crotchety old man?

[Benjamin Grimm]

It's his right, and I don't blame him for exercising it, but if the mom and baby are in New York, and the team is playing at home, he might as well show up for the game. Can he defer the three-day leave until the first road trip? I'm guessing probably not.

[G-Fafif]

The family's down in Florida.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Then I have no problem at all with Murphy taking a leave.

[Ceetar]

I approve of paternity leave as a rule and wish it was mandatory anywhere.

not that I'm biased or anything.

[Edgy MD]

Jason Bay, I believe, took the full three days while his wife and child were in town.

It's his right and I don't begrudge the Moifs. I'm sure he'll be ripped from here to Florida for his lack of commitment to his work --- by fans goofing off from work to go to games, call in to sports radio, or post on the Iinternet... like ME!

That said, I'm rooting like hell for Wilmer to get about eight hits.

[G-Fafif]

I was disappointed when Jason Bay's paternity leave wasn't extended.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I imagine most of those giving Muffy shit for missing time are intentionally being mooks.

By the way, Terry is giving a news conference at 4pm, I guess he'll explain what the deelio is

[metsmarathon]

Ceetar wrote: I approve of paternity leave as a rule and wish it was mandatory anywhere. not that I'm biased or anything.

bah, like babies need their fathers.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I imagine most of those giving Muffy shit for missing time are intentionally being mooks. By the way, Terry is giving a news conference at 4pm, I guess he'll explain what the deelio is

normal pregame stuff, but yeah, lots to address today.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Place to be is with your family, but plan the next child to
be born in off-season.

[nymr83]

G-Fafif wrote: I was disappointed when Jason Bay's paternity leave wasn't extended.

I think the Mets gave him unlimited paid paternity leave to be a stay at home dad last year.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I imagine most of those giving Muffy shit for missing time are intentionally being mooks

Or, y'know, can't help it.

[Guest d'Kong76]

If not obvious, I was joking ^^^

[Edgy MD]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I imagine most of those giving Muffy shit for missing time are intentionally being mooks Or, y'know, can't help it.

Sheesh.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Paternity leave not a controversy for Yankees since their guys have all long since had vasectomies and/or can no longer get it up #old

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Paternity leave not a controversy for Yankees since their guys have all long since had vasectomies and/or can no longer get it up #old

I believe Jeter has his ladies sign a waiver of paternal rights before he even lets them undress.

[metsmarathon]

i can't even believe this is an issue.

seriously cannot fucking believe it.

when minimm was born, i took a month off work. you know why? because i could.

when �mml&r were born, guess what? i took another month off. you know why? because i could. i had the available leave and the flexibility in my workpalce allowed it.

i'm super thankful for it. and i wish i could've taken more time off.

you know why? because i'm a man, a father, a husband, and I AM A MAN.

but what is a man? is a man just a meatbag with a hairy penis? is that all that makes me a man? a y-chromosome and 18 years under my belt?

no. a man is a MAN. he is a provider for his family, and its protector. (allow me to dive off hte deep end of societal stereotyping and mookery here. men are so much more and so much less than that. but i cannot assault the argument without first fully embracing it). that's what a man does. that's what a man is. a man who does not provide for and protect his family is no man at all. amirite?

well, once we've got that nonsense out of the way. let me ask a question. how exactly does one provide for his family? what does that even mean? is it just money? is that all i do? make money, give it to the family, and then my manly responsibilities are fulfilled?

of course not. a man must provide love and support to his family. and when does a family need more love and support than when a new child is born into it? the babies need love. the mother just pushed a watermelon out of her (or had it cut out of her freaking abdomen!). your watermelon! you think she doesn't need love? babies are helpless. do they not need support? does that watermelon-producer not also need support, to the best and utmost of your abilities?

and what of protecting the family? by loving and supporting hte mother and new babies, a man also protects his family proactively. protect the family from undue stress and difficulty, and also to a lesser extent from whackadoodle inlaws. a man protects his family from dangers not only physical, but also mental and emotional. and when are families more emotionally and mentally stressed than when a new child is born into it?

no, manly man, your provisions and protections extend beyond a paycheck and a smelly armpit, especially when you are able.

now, mind you, if a family is so fully dependent upon the paycheck of the man, then it is the man's obligation to find hte proper balance, for to forego pay altogether to be there for a new child can be counter-productive. so a family that's living paycheck to paycheck, more or less, may have to sacrifice the time the man spends with the new baby.

but lets be real.

the murphys are not in any way living paycheck to paycheck. daniel murphy is making $5.7M this year, and while i don't know if paternity leave is paid or not, even if its not paid, he'll undoubtedly be just fine. and while he's not yet reached his free agent years and has not yet gotten a long term contract, his job is fairly safe, and he may look forward to a decent major league career with tens of millions of dollars in salary over its course. he's already cleared the bar of providing for his family, financially. taking a month off may not be adviseable for him, in that it would then become detrimental to his career and also to his team. but three days is an exceedingly small drop in the bucket.

moreover, and importantly, he is entitled to taking three days off. his union has won that provision and it is his to use. and use it he should. to not use it would be to not provide for his family, as the exceedingly small financial and career benefit does not outweigh the emotional and mental and physical benefit of him being with his new family for htose three scant days.


a pro football player might not have the flexibility to miss a game or three following the birth of a child, as his season is shorter, his contract is not guaranteed, his career is more fleeting, the loss of a game check more pronounced, and hte threat of replacement on the depth charts more immediate. especially for a marginal player. but for an established major league baseball player? please.

surely there are those who were unable to avail themselves of any such provision in their own lives, and who had to make the sacrifice of not being there for their newborn child because their own financial situation outweighed or threatened to outweigh the benefit of being there, but they should not begrudge him his luck and his success.

and for mike francessa to begrudge him is preposterous. fuck that noise. fuck it right in the neck.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Everyone knows Mike Francesa is an idiot. I don't know why he feels the need to keep proving it.

[Guest d'Kong76]

He's lost any grasp of reality he ever might have ever sniffed.
It's sad that he is still so popular.

[Guest d'Kong76]

I can't even discuss this! And I have no kids!
Boomer says this morning on their show that he'd have his
wife get a c-section before the season so he could play baseball.

My head is going to explode.

[Ceetar]

blowhards, all of 'em.

[Guest cooby]

Centerfield wrote: Murph out tonight on paternity leave. Assuming mother and baby are fine, this seems unnecessary no? I mean. Play with the kid during the day, then get your ass to the ballpark. Or am I just being old-fashioned, close-minded, crotchety old man?

Have to admit, I bitched about it on my fantasy forums.

[Ceetar]

Don't worry, I'll make sure I still log on here and make sarcastic comments about Eric Young Jr and/or 0.

[Guest cooby]

d'Kong76 wrote: Place to be is with your family, but plan the next child to be born in off-season.

And this.

And I'm a mom.

[metirish]

Unreal that this has blown up like it has.....If Murph has to answer questions today about this "controversy" then it is truly fucked.

[Guest cooby]

I just hope everything is okay

[Ceetar]

metirish wrote: Unreal that this has blown up like it has.....If Murph has to answer questions today about this "controversy" then it is truly fucked.

He has been answering questions. Collins too, who is reported annoyed about it. And apparently she did have a C-section, so nuts to you Boomer.

[nymr83]

you know why? because i'm a man, a father, a husband, and I AM A MAN. but what is a man? is a man just a meatbag with a hairy penis? is that all that makes me a man? a y-chromosome and 18 years under my belt? no. a man is a MAN.

He's a man! he's 40!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZU5AnxwIAg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZU5AnxwIAg

Edited April 3, 2014 by Guest

[Ceetar]

as pointed out on Twitter by 2012's banner day winner, Noah (the kid's name) got even more popular post-Notebook.

It was actually 5th in 2011 for boys names.