going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

[metsmarathon]

corresponding to my other quiz, i just pulled the list of the metly pitchers with the top 50 WARs for their metly career, according to baseball reference.

i then ranked those top 50 according to WAR per 250 innings pitched, as reported again by baseball reference.

some obvious names will be in the list, but some not so obvious names may sneak in as well. so, who is in the top ten?

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[Ceetar]

minimum 250IP pitcher or no?

cause, Matt Harvey.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Is there an innings minimum? Are relievers included? Like my man, Armando, who loses out to the vastly inferior Roger McDowell in every all time Mets poll? Who didn't get his mug on one of the 81 home season tickets in the Mets 50th anniversary season?

[metsmarathon]

minimum 4.3 metly-career WAR, because ol' roger mcdowell is the met pitcher with the 50th highest WAR total, at a meager 4.3 WAR.

mcdowell is at 2.30 WAR/250IP, good for 43rd on the list. so don't use him, okay, he's not a right answer.

matt harvery, on the other hand, is already up to 6.7 WAR, in a meager 237 innings. that's a 7.27 WAR/250IP right there, tops on our list.

1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP
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[batmagadanleadoff]

I was guessing Armando Benitez, not Roger McDowell.

[Edgy MD]

Randy Myers.

[Edgy MD]

Don Pedro Martinez.

[Edgy MD]

Tom Seaver of the Fresno Seavers.

[metsmarathon]

cross-posting about roger mcdowell not meriting a spot on the top 50 mets pitchers on a WAR/250 IP basis. cool.

armando benitez is of course eligible for consideration, as he has a total of 9.8 WAR, far in excess of roger mcdowell's meager sum. he's our #2. which is perhaps oddly fitting, depending upon how you view his tenure.

1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP
2. armando benitez 7.06 WAR/250 IP
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[u:q1xjs9rt]incorrect answers:[/u:q1xjs9rt]
definitely not roger mcdowell, not that anyone would even think of suggesting him as an answer: #43, 2.30 WAR/250 IP

[batmagadanleadoff]

I'm going for the esoteric guesses: Rick Reed.

[metsmarathon]

randy myers just misses. #11, 5.10 WAR/250 IP
pedro martinez misses by a little more. #20, 4.16 WAR/250 IP
tom seaver? now you're talking!

1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP
2. armando benitez 7.06 WAR/250 IP
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4. tom seaver 6.25 WAR/250 IP
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incorrect answers:
randy myers: #11, 5.10 WAR/250 IP
pedro martinez: #20, 4.16 WAR/250 IP

definitely not roger mcdowell, not that anyone would even think of suggesting him as an answer: #43, 2.30 WAR/250 IP

Edited November 22, 2013 by Guest

[Ceetar]

Mike Hampton

[batmagadanleadoff]

metsmarathon wrote: armando benitez is of course eligible for consideration, as he has a total of 9.8 WAR, far in excess of roger mcdowell's meager sum. he's our #2. which is perhaps oddly fitting, depending upon how you view his tenure.

I can't believe that there are Mets fans on this great forum who think that Ordonez was a great ugly black uniform Met and Armando wasn't a great ugly black uniform Met .

[Edgy MD]

Cone. David Cone. David Cone of the Kansas City Cones.

[metsmarathon]

rick reed. so close. #14, 4.64 WAR/250 IP

dolphin face, on the other hand, makes the cut, despite fewer innings than harvey.

1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP
2. armando benitez 7.06 WAR/250 IP
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4. tom seaver 6.25 WAR/250 IP
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6. mike hampton 5.41 WAR/250 IP
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[batmagadanleadoff]

My other main man, Jesse Orosco.

[Ceetar]

R.A. Dickey

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, OK, so I'll say Gooden.

[dinosaur jesus]

Bret Saberhagen.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Jerry Koosman.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Jon Matlack

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

El Sid?

[Fman99]

Bobby O

[metsmarathon]

catching up some more... sorry for going dark over the weekend.

david cone - surprisingly, no
jesse orosco - yup!
r.a. dickey - who needs ligaments, amirite?
gooden - if only...
saberhagen - was so much better than history remembers him
koosman - longevity tends to work against getting on this list
matlack - a good guess, but no
el sid fernandez - el nope
bobby ojeda - not even close


1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP
2. armando benitez 7.06 WAR/250 IP
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4. tom seaver 6.25 WAR/250 IP
5. brett saberhagen 5.53 WAR/250 IP
6. mike hampton 5.41 WAR/250 IP
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8. r.a. dickey 5.23 WAR/250 IP
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10. jesse orosco 5.12 WAR/250 IP

not in top 10:
randy myers: #11, 5.10 WAR/250 IP
dwight gooden: #13 4.79 WAR/250 IP
rick reed: #14, 4.64 WAR/250 IP
john matlack: #15 4.59 WAR/250 IP
sid fernandez: #18 4.37 WAR/250 IP
pedro martinez: #20, 4.16 WAR/250 IP
david cone: #23 4.03 WAR/250 IP
jerry koosman: #26 3.88 WAR/250 IP
bobby ojeda: #33 3.17 WAR/250 IP
roger mcdowell: #43, 2.30 WAR/250 IP

[Edgy MD]

Tug McGraw.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Franco?

[Guest 86-Dreamer]

Viola?

[Edgy MD]

Bross?

[Guest 86-Dreamer]

Bearnarth?

[metsmarathon]

mcgraw - ya gotta be kidding!
franco - john or julio...? because julio never pitched and john isn't in the top fifteen
viola - cello
bross - in his ten major league metly innings, terry bross notched just 0.3 WAR. this is nowhere near enough to get him onto the top 50 mets pitchers in terms of WAR generated. but on a per-inning ratio, he'd be better than bret saberhagen, gettint a cool 6 WAR/200 IP.
bearnarth - surely this guess is beneath you. in almost 320 innings, larry amassed a mere 0.6 WAR. no. no. this is not good.


1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP
2. armando benitez 7.06 WAR/250 IP
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4. tom seaver 6.25 WAR/250 IP
5. brett saberhagen 5.53 WAR/250 IP
6. mike hampton 5.41 WAR/250 IP
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8. r.a. dickey 5.23 WAR/250 IP
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10. jesse orosco 5.12 WAR/250 IP

not in top 10:
randy myers: #11, 5.10 WAR/250 IP
dwight gooden: #13 4.79 WAR/250 IP
rick reed: #14, 4.64 WAR/250 IP
john matlack: #15 4.59 WAR/250 IP
sid fernandez: #18 4.37 WAR/250 IP
frank viola: #19 4.28 WAR/200 IP
pedro martinez: #20, 4.16 WAR/250 IP
tug mcgraw: #22 4.04 WAR/200 IP
david cone: #23 4.03 WAR/250 IP
john franco: #24 3.99 WAR/200 IP
jerry koosman: #26 3.88 WAR/250 IP
bobby ojeda: #33 3.17 WAR/250 IP
roger mcdowell: #43, 2.30 WAR/250 IP



unranked pitchers:
terry bross: 6.00 WAR/200 IP
bearnarth: 0.38 WAR/200 IP

if you'd like a hint i'll happily tell you this. the last remaining hitter never faced any of the three remaining pitchers. the last remaining hitter player with one of the pitchers, but not while they were a met. the other two pitchers are one step removed from playing with the hitter, per bbref's oracle of baseball.