GREETINGS! -- aka: the draft thread 2013

[Vic Sage]

These fuckers can hit.

yeah, baby.

oh, and fuck baby Mazz and the cornholin' daddy who conceived him.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Full list of all the day 3 dudes.

11th round/326th overall: RHP Taylor Bashlor, South Georgia College
12 round/356th overall: SS Jeff McNeil, Cal State Long Beach
13th round/386th overall: RHP Kevin McGowan, Franklin Pierce University
14th round/416th overall: RHP JD Leckenby, Washington State University
15th round/446th overall: C Colton Plaia, Loyola Marymount University
16th round/476th overall: C Zach Mathieu. Franklin Pierce University
17th round/506th overall: RHP Johnny Magliozzi, University of Florida
18th round/536th overall: RHP Brent McMinn, University of Nevada-Reno
19th round/566th overall: RHP Cody Crouse, Bloomingdale Senior HS
20th round/596th overall: RHP Dan Hermann, Christian Brothers College HS
21st round/626th overall: RHP Morgan Earman, Desert Christian Academy HS
22nd round/656th overall: RHP Daniel Procopio, Central Technical HS
23rd round/686th overall: RHP Gaither Bumgardner, University of South Carolina-Upstate
24th round/716th overall: RHP Matt Brill, Moline HS
25th round/746th overall: RHP Ricky Jacquez, Central Arizona College
26th round/776th overall: C Owen Spiwak, Cawthra Park SS HS
27th round/806th overall: RHP Austin Coley, Belmont University
28th round/836th overall: RHP Robert Coles, Florida State University
29th round/866th overall: LHP Anthony Kay, Ward Melville HS
30th round/896th overall: RHP David McKay, Viera HS
31st round/926th overall: RHP Ben Hecht, St. Anthony HS
32nd round/956th overall: C Juan Escarra, Mater Academy Charter HS
33rd round/986th overall: RHP Ryan Chapman, Santa Ana College
34th round/1016th overall: RHP Cameron Griffen, Columbus State University
35th round/1046th overall: RHP Ty Williams, Seminole State College
36th round/1076th overall: 1B Brandon Brosher, Springstead HS
37th round/1106th overall: 1B Juan Avena, Compton Community College
38th round/1136th overall: LHP Paul Paez, Rio Hondo College
39th round/1166th overall: 1B Logan Quimuyog, Mosley HS
40th round/1196th overall: OF JB Woodman, Edgewater HS

[Frayed Knot]

We have our first reported signing of the draft in 10th round pick Luis Guillorme
Only one problem ... This Fucker CAN'T Hit!

[Vic Sage]

Ordonez is the comp? but not as good? And we paid over slot for him?
Hey Sandy, the fucker can't hit... whaddya doin?

[metirish]

All I can say it the video is worth watching for his defensive play.....it was a wow, don't blink

[Frayed Knot]

Vic Sage wrote: Ordonez is the comp? but not as good? And we paid over slot for him? Hey Sandy, the fucker can't hit... whaddya doin?

Well, at 18 y/o (or thereabouts) there's always the slight chance that he could learn to hit.
Not a big chance most likely, but 10th round picks don't have a real big chance to begin with so maybe it's worth the shot that he'll go through some Ozzie-like learning curve with the stick.

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, the notion is that they always name an all-star/former all-star as the comp at the scouting bureau. The reality juice comes from a Mets blogger looking for a most- or more-likely scenario, rather than an if-everything-falls-into-place one.

And it's a tenth-rounder. You know what's an even more likely scenario? The likes of Corey Ragsdale or David Reaver or somebody. A AA flameout that was a nice dream but a typically passing one.

[nymr83]

I would suspect that as far as guys outside the first few rounds go, the Gold Glove SS with no bat ends up useful more often than the guy with some bat who doesn't have a defensive position, particularly for an NL team. The lack of foot-speed is concerning, as it probably precludes him becoming a super-sub who can give you great defense at 6 positions.

[nymr83]

Undrafted: Manny Ramirez's son Kurt Bevacqua's son Rafael Palmeiro's son Pat Borders's son Jay Buhner's son John Cangelosi's son John Franco's son Bob Geren's son Frank Wren's other son Harmon Killebrew's grandson Willie Stargell's grandson Alex Rodriguez's nephew Dan Plesac's nephew Ruben Amaro's nephew

Ramirez and Palmiero really burned all the bridges huh?

I'm surprised Franco's kid couldn't get our last pick, maybe a minor-league invite next spring training?

[Frayed Knot]

Teams would draft Hitler's son if they thought he could play.
If some guy's kid wasn't drafted it's because no one thought they're good enough or signable enough to make it worth a pick. And as drafts have gone from 60+ rounds, to 50 rounds, and now down to 40 rounds, there aren't as many throw-away picks as there used to be.

[Frayed Knot]

Nymr83 wrote: I would suspect that as far as guys outside the first few rounds go, the Gold Glove SS with no bat ends up useful more often than the guy with some bat who doesn't have a defensive position, particularly for an NL team. The lack of foot-speed is concerning, as it probably precludes him becoming a super-sub who can give you great defense at 6 positions.

A guy with this kind profile isn't the guy you look to shift among different positions. Either he learns to hit at least marginally and he becomes at minimum a backup SS known for his glove, or he doesn't and never sees a ML uniform. But if the reports about his defense hold up then he's a guy who, when he's on the field, it's going to be as a SS; it was the only reason he was drafted at all.

Checking back over nine years (270 players) of 10th round draft picks (2000-2008) it looks like an average of between five and six each year find their way to a ML club with maybe one per becoming a starter at least at some point.

[Edgy MD]

Well, he could become a punchless utility man, although those guys aren't as prevelant as they used to be. You need Turners --- with decent bats but only modest range, because short benches mean using them as pinch-hitters more.

There's no shortage of players who've been drafted for their defensive prowess by teams who believe they can teach them to hit. Scouts love that shit. It's just that most of these players indeed don't learn to hit.

[Frayed Knot]

Sickels on NYM draft

1-11) Dominic Smith, 1B, Serra HS, Gardena, CA
2-48) Andrew Church, RHP, Basic HS, Henderson, NV
3-76) Ivan Wilson, OF, Ruston HS, LA
3-84) Casey Meisner, RHP, Cypress Woods HS, Cypress, TX
4-116) L.J. Mazzilli, 2B, Connecticut
5-146) Jared King, OF, Kansas State
Others of interest: 7) Matt Oberste, 1B, Oklahoma; 8) Ricky Knapp, RHP, Florida Gulf Coast; 9) Patric Biondi, OF, Michigan; 10) Luis Guillorme, SS, Florida HS; 15) Colton Plaia, C, Loyola Marymount

COMMENT: A mixed class, with upside early then shifting gears to more polished college guys. Smith has the bat for first base and could win gold gloves too. Church and Meisner are athletic, projectable types who will need patient development; Wilson is a strong athlete who will need similar perseverance. Bloodlined Mazzilli, switch-hitting King, power hitter Oberste, strike-throwing Knapp, and speedy Biondi are all solid college choices in their rounds who provide depth to the system; all have a chance to exceed expectations. There is risk at the top but balance as well.

[Benjamin Grimm]

ESPNNewYork.com wrote: NEW YORK -- The Mets are close to signing first-round pick Dominic Smith, according to a source. The Mets selected Smith, a first baseman out of Serra HS (Calif.), with the 11th pick in this year's draft. He took swings at Citi Field on Sunday, and even stayed for all 20 innings of the Mets-Marlins game on Saturday. Smith's recommended slot value, according to multiple websites, is $2,840,300. Smith is committed to play at University of Southern California if he is not able to work out a deal with the Mets.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Has anyone been tracking who has been signed and who hasn't?

[Frayed Knot]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Has anyone been tracking who has been signed and who hasn't?

See This Link

Supposedly all the names in Bold have beens signed--which means all of the top guys. Some of the ones without dollar figures filled in might not be officially official yet but BA is comfortable enough to know they happened so have it chalked up in the 'Done' category. It's, y'know, like calling Florida in national elections.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

15 of the top 16. Get on the ball, Leckenby.

[Edgy MD]

Logan Quimuyog = equipment manager's nightmare.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Edgy MD wrote: Logan Quimuyog = equipment manager's nightmare.

Schaefer tallier's nightmare too. We have people here who can't spell "Tejada".

[Benjamin Grimm]

Frayed Knot wrote: See This Link

Cool! Thanks. Looks like they've done pretty well in locking these guys up.

[Edgy MD]

And I believe they were pretty well believed to have done a pretty poor job in 2012.

[Edgy MD]

Hey, they picked Paul Paez two years in a row --- signed him after going for him in Rd 38 this year after he turned them down for 18th round money last year.

Looks dumb, but I imagine the money isn't all that different.

[Frayed Knot]

The deadline for signing, with the exception of college seniors, is 5 PM EDT on July 12th.

[Edgy MD]

Domonic Smiff, promoted from the Gulf Coast Mets to Kingsport for the Appy League Playoffs. Spazz, you're on your way!

[Vic Sage]

i thought the GCL and APP leagues were equivalent rookie-type A-ball leagues, no? So is that really a promotion, or a sideways thing to just get another bat in for their post-season? Either way, good for him.

Looking at Smith's numbers this year at GCL, it looks like he's exactly the kind of line-driver with a good eye that we were told. Hopefully, he'll develop some power as he gets older. Most good hitters do, and he's only 18 so there's plenty of time. But it wouldn't be terrible either if he were just a .300/15hr gold glove-caliber 1bman, like the guy sitting in the broadcast booth.

[Centerfield]

Any video out there of his swing? I'd almost be ok letting him learn at the big league level just to not have to watch another ugly Ike Davis front-foot flail.

[Vic Sage]

you do realize that Ike has hit really well for about a month now, right? with an OPS around 1.000. I mean, i'm as down on him as the next guy, but give the fella his due.