PIT at NY (N) 5-10-13

[Guest Swan Swan H]

I hate stranding leadoff doubles.

[Zvon]

Swan Swan H wrote: I hate stranding leadoff doubles.

A ground out and two pop outs. They would have conceded a run there too. Gah!

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Frayed Knot wrote: Asking Gary to comment on Sabermetrics is like asking Nancy Pelosi to comment on the Tea Party

He has generally seemed to give "advanced stats" something of a fairer shake so far this year, and was pretty magnanimous this go-round.

[Edgy MD]

That's a homer. Come on.

[Zvon]

Edgy MD wrote: That's a homer. Come on.

Yep. Marcum is only 31? He looks older than that by a bit.

[nymr83]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Asking Gary to comment on Sabermetrics is like asking Nancy Pelosi to comment on the Tea Party He has generally seemed to give "advanced stats" something of a fairer shake so far this year, and was pretty magnanimous this go-round.

The lab coat was funny, the rejection of evidence that BABIP regresses to the mean wasnt

[Edgy MD]

Rob Carson will do.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Asking Gary to comment on Sabermetrics is like asking Nancy Pelosi to comment on the Tea Party He has generally seemed to give "advanced stats" something of a fairer shake so far this year, and was pretty magnanimous this go-round. The lab coat was funny, the rejection of evidence that BABIP regresses to the mean wasnt

Ditto on the WAR discussion re: Trout and Cabrera. ("Trout had a WAR of 10, Cabrera something like 7... but which one would YOU rather have?")

But... baby steps. Gary's a reasonable man. I have faith he'll get there, even if it'll be in the nursing home.

Edited May 10, 2013 by Guest

[Fman99]

Shawn Marcum sucks.

[Frayed Knot]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Asking Gary to comment on Sabermetrics is like asking Nancy Pelosi to comment on the Tea Party He has generally seemed to give "advanced stats" something of a fairer shake so far this year, and was pretty magnanimous this go-round.

Yes, he wasn't as hostile to them as he generally has been in individual cases.
I sometimes think it's stats people he dislikes more than stats themselves.

And, yeah, the discussion of the weaknesses of BABiP should include the mention that, if it truly were dependent on individual skill, then it should be more predictable.

[Zvon]

[Edgy MD]

Hey! Homer for handsome!

[Guest Swan Swan H]

He hit it with his cheekbones.

[Frayed Knot]

Meanwhile, another no-out double gets stranded.

[Guest Kong76]

I just checked, Mets lead NL in LDSpG. I should Tweet the booth.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Recker has hardly shown his dreamy face this year, but let tonight be his arrival.

[Frayed Knot]

Another leadoff hit gets followed by another three batters failing to get the ball out of the infield.

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: Yes, he wasn't as hostile to them as he generally has been in individual cases. I sometimes think it's stats people he dislikes more than stats themselves.

well to be fair, there are plenty of frustrating stats people. There's a lot of a little knowledge is a dangerous thing aspect to it where people parrot researched theories as fact without really understanding the reasoning behind them or how it fits into baseball as a whole. (i.e. ALL BUNTING IS BAD, STOP BUNTING)

[Guest Kong76]

BiFL

[Frayed Knot]

So does Wright get an error on that play? I figure he does since the batter technically reached 1st safely.

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: So does Wright get an error on that play? I figure he does since the batter technically reached 1st safely.

I would think so right? Error and..pickoff? just..out?

gameday:

John McDonald reaches on a throwing error by third baseman David Wright. John McDonald out at 2nd, first baseman Ike Davis.

[Frayed Knot]

Ceetar wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Yes, he wasn't as hostile to them as he generally has been in individual cases. I sometimes think it's stats people he dislikes more than stats themselves. well to be fair, there are plenty of frustrating stats people. There's a lot of a little knowledge is a dangerous thing aspect to it where people parrot researched theories as fact without really understanding the reasoning behind them or how it fits into baseball as a whole. (i.e. ALL BUNTING IS BAD, STOP BUNTING)

And there are probably even more frustrating anti-stats people like those who insist that if the stat wasn't in general use prior to 1960 then it's a useless piece o' shit invented by pointy-headed geeks who, because they don't sweat for a living, couldn't possibly know what they're talking about.

Edited May 10, 2013 by Guest

[Frayed Knot]

Ceetar wrote: So does Wright get an error on that play? I figure he does since the batter technically reached 1st safely. I would think so right? Error and..pickoff? just..out?

Error and out trying to stretch essentially.

[Frayed Knot]

And yet another leadoff hit wasted!

[Ceetar]

Yes, he wasn't as hostile to them as he generally has been in individual cases. I sometimes think it's stats people he dislikes more than stats themselves. well to be fair, there are plenty of frustrating stats people. There's a lot of a little knowledge is a dangerous thing aspect to it where people parrot researched theories as fact without really understanding the reasoning behind them or how it fits into baseball as a whole. (i.e. ALL BUNTING IS BAD, STOP BUNTING) And there are probably even more frustrating anti-stats people like those who insist that if the stat wasn't in general use prior to 1960 then it's a useless piece o' shit invented by pointy-headed geeks who, because they don't sweat for a living, couldn't possibly know what they're talking about.

breaking: people are frustrating all around.

*resumes hermit status*

[ashie62]

Breaking news....Mets offense frustrating all around...

[Guest themetfairy]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Recker has hardly shown his dreamy face this year, but let tonight be his arrival.

[Zvon]

Kinda looks like Dale Murphy to me.

[Frayed Knot]

Gary & Ronnie were talking about all the 'M' names on the Pirate team - something like 10 guys of the current 25 man roster.
Wonder if this former Yanx pitcher is available for bullpen coach duty or something. Seems like he'd be a natural on this team. You might even say he'd be a double natural.

[Fman99]

Ronnie not a fan of Jordany's HR appreciation.