smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-01-31/news/a-rod-and-doping-a-miami-clinic-supplies-drugs-to-sports-biggest-names/A lot of names, many of whom have been caught in the last year. But yeah, it's obvious who the big name is. If there's language in his contract allowing the Yankees to void it if something like this happens, he's the biggest idiot on the planet.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 There is no way there is that language in the contract.*yawn*If I'm Jeter, I tell clinics my name is A-Rod when I pick up my stuff.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Now, as baseball teams head to spring training under a tougher new policy, the Biogenesis records affirm that the war on doping has been as futile as the War on Drugs.I'm not sure I believe that.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 I hope no such language exists and Rodriguez sees out the rest of that awful albatross of a contract.
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2013 Author Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) Edgy MD wrote:Now, as baseball teams head to spring training under a tougher new policy, the Biogenesis records affirm that the war on doping has been as futile as the War on Drugs.I'm not sure I believe that.I'm not sure either. I saw the names of six active baseball players, of whom three tested positive last year. Could you conclude that MLB testing system still needs improvement? Sure. Could you conclude that it's failed? No, not at all. Edited January 29, 2013 by Guest
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 In these notebooks, he spelled out all the athletes � from baseball to tennis to high school players � buying his products. The name that really made Garcia's jaw drop was hometown hero Alex Rodriguez.Born and raised in Miami and starring on the diamond since he was 18 years old, A-Rod admitted in 2009 that he had used steroids, claiming in an ESPN interview that his doping was limited to a three-year window � 2001 through 2003 � while he played under a record contract for the Texas Rangers. Ever since then, A-Rod claimed, he'd been playing clean. He'd never failed an MLB drug test since penalties were put into place.Yet there was his name, over and over again, logged as either "Alex Rodriguez," "Alex Rod," or his nickname at the clinic, "Cacique," a pre-Columbian Caribbean chief. Rodriguez's name appears 16 times throughout the records New Times reviewed.Take, for instance, one patient list from Bosch's 2009 personal notebook. It charts more than 50 clients and notes whether they received their drugs by delivery or in the office, how much they paid, and what they were taking.There, at number seven on the list, is Alex Rodriguez. He paid $3,500, Bosch notes. Below that, he writes, "1.5/1.5 HGH (sports perf.) creams test., glut., MIC, supplement, sports perf. Diet." HGH, of course, is banned in baseball, as are testosterone creams.That's not the only damning evidence against A-Rod, though. Another document from the files, a loose sheet with a header from the 19th Annual World Congress on Anti-Aging and Aesthetic Medicine, lays out a full regimen under the name Cacique: "Test. cream... troches prior to workout... and GHRP... IGF-1... pink cream."IGF-1 is a banned substance in baseball that stimulates insulin production and muscle growth. Elsewhere in his notebook, Bosch spells out that his "troches," a type of drug lozenge, include 15 percent testosterone; pink cream, he writes, is a complex formula that also includes testosterone. GHRP is a substance that releases growth hormones.There's more evidence. On a 2009 client list, near A-Rod's name, is that of Yuri Sucart, who paid Bosch $500 for a weeklong supply of HGH. Sucart is famous to anyone who has followed baseball's steroid scandal. Soon after A-Rod's admission, the slugger admitted that Sucart � his cousin and close friend � was the mule who provided the superstar his drugs. In 2009, the same year this notebook was written, Sucart (who lives in South Miami and didn't respond to a message left at his home) was banned from all Yankees facilities.The mentions of Rodriguez begin in 2009 and continue all the way through last season. Take a page in another notebook, which is labeled "2012" and looks to have been written last spring. Under the heading "A-Rod/Cacique," Bosch writes, "He is paid through April 30th. He will owe May 1 $4,000... I need to see him between April 13-19, deliver troches, pink cream, and... May meds. Has three weeks of Sub-Q (as of April)."Elsewhere in his notebooks, Bosch writes that "Sub-Q" refers to his mixture of HGH, IGF-1, and other drugs.The notebooks and client lists aren't the only evidence linking Rodriguez to Bosch. Former employees say Bosch would openly brag about selling drugs to Rodriguez."He was always talking about A-Rod," says one former employee who asked not to be named. "We never saw any athletes in the office, so we didn't know if he was just talking bullshit or not. But he would brag about how tight they were."
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Publishing patient information without the consent of the patient violates Federal law.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Portability_and_Accountability_ActLater
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Yeah, he's got some answering to do. Another one of those awkward spring training press conferences with the seats full of Yankees and Jeter being all high and mighty. That might be nice.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 A-Rod has retained counsel, and denies evahthing. I like the Jeter scenario.Point to ponder: what a miserable day it'd be if Gio had won the Cy Young award.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 MFS62 wrote:Publishing patient information without the consent of the patient violates Federal law.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Portability_and_Accountability_ActLaterI'm not entirely sure about what I'm about to write, but it's very possible that the patient's right to privacy is forfeited when the purported medical treatment constitutes illegal activity by both doctor (here, for dispensing banned substances) and patient (for knowingly receiving banned substances).
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Those handgrenades I bought were medically necessary. See you in court, Bub.
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 or since the guy wasn't an actual doctor, there's no actual priviledge to be maintained...?
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 or since the guy wasn't an actual doctor, there's no actual priviledge to be maintained...?This.My favorite part of this is the pseudonym-"coded" client lists... with the real names/keys written in the exact same set of records. Tony Bosch: Criminal Mastermind!
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 This will somehow be almost exclusively a baseball story.
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 yeah. there's a football/ped/hgh/ray lewis story going around, too, but nobody seems to care. because it doesn't affect [bigpurple:1tqvdwi4]the numbers[/bigpurple:1tqvdwi4]. the other thing it won't affect? ray lewis' hall of fame candidacy.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 With the hip surgery and other Swirling Arod issues I am considering the possibility that Arod has played his last MLB game.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Ashie62 wrote:With the hip surgery and other Swirling Arod issues I am considering the possibility that Arod has played his last MLB game.I seriously doubt that.I'm just shocked, SHOCKED! that ARod's story of doing PEDs only up until he started with his current team may not turn out to be 100% accurate.
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 see, he should've come clean to oprah. he wouldn't've been able to lie if it was oprah interviewing him about his steroid use. then we'd know the whole story, he would have repented and stayed clean, and america would have loved him like we never lived him before.
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 metsmarathon wrote:see, he should've come clean to oprah. he wouldn't've been able to lie if it was oprah interviewing him about his steroid use. then we'd know the whole story, he would have repented and stayed clean, and america would have loved him like we never lived him before.Are you implying that people love Lance Armstrong and his lying, self-serving piece of shit ass now that he's talked to Oprah?
Guest Swan Swan H Guests Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Ashie62 wrote:With the hip surgery and other Swirling Arod issues I am considering the possibility that Arod has played his last MLB game.Swirling Arod is the name of my Faces cover band.
Guest Mets � Willets Point Guests Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Swan Swan H wrote:Ashie62 wrote:With the hip surgery and other Swirling Arod issues I am considering the possibility that Arod has played his last MLB game.Swirling Arod is the name of my Faces cover band.Swirling Arod happened in Tolkien's Return of the King, iirc.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 I honestly don't know what I "want" to come out of this. I'm getting kinda numb to all this crap.
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 I want the MFYs to forfeit all their wins from the last four seasons.Oh wait, that only happens if you pay an amateur athlete or look the other way with an assistant coach's child abuse.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Numb about says it...an maybe acceptance also.
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 themetfairy wrote:metsmarathon wrote:see, he should've come clean to oprah. he wouldn't've been able to lie if it was oprah interviewing him about his steroid use. then we'd know the whole story, he would have repented and stayed clean, and america would have loved him like we never lived him before.Are you implying that people love Lance Armstrong and his lying, self-serving piece of shit ass now that he's talked to Oprah?are you implying that we don't? shit. what was the point of all that then? i mean, clearly lance thought that was the likely outcome.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Joel Sherman talks today about how the Yanx are "privately thrilled" over these latest ARod stories and will use it to explore ways to get out from under his contract. He admits that the chances of them succeeding at that remains "a hail Mary" but the reasons for them not to at least try are diminishing. There are five years remaining on the deal and the Yanx have pretty much resolved themselves to the fact that they're going to release him at some point before the end of the deal and eat part of the cash. Year one (2013) is already clocking in at somewhere between half shot and fully shot between the hip recovery and now a possible suspension so there's certainly a temptation to fight for as much of the middle three years as possible. Suing him for fraud or some such tactic isn't likely to succeed but maybe the threat of it starts negotiations towards some sort of buy-out.Besides, what's legal action or other public handbag swinging going to do, poison the relationship between him and the club, or the fans, or his teammates? I think the cows are already out of that barn.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Are there any more active contracts that George Steinbrenner had a hand in? I guess A-Rod's deal is on Hank, right?
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Ryan Braun, MFY douche Cervelli newest named.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Braun? Coly hrap! MLB, you suckers! You let him off and he ran right back to his pharmacist!If ever there was a guy who was a Yankee in all but the uniform, it's Ryan Braun.
Guest Swan Swan H Guests Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Cervelli? First, hahahahahahahaha you fucking prick. Second, he sucked on PEDs. Without them he must have been Arnold Horshack.
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