Folks and Their Blogs in 2013

[Edgy MD]

Funny, or a prime example of the sniggling contempt you fall into as a Yankee fan (and are way too prone to as a Mets fan)?

http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/2013/01/its-almost-happy-hairston-day-in-new.html

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Edgy MD wrote: Funny, or a prime example of the sniggling contempt you fall into as a Yankee fan (and are way too prone to as a Mets fan)? http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/2013/01/its-almost-happy-hairston-day-in-new.html

Damn you to a fiery nether-land for making me go there.

[Edgy MD]

Is he/she parodying the baseball media and blogosphere making big news out of a minor story because news is slow? Or is she/he being a Yankee snot who thinks any player who never played in an All-Star Game is a joke?

Is it too meta for me to unnerstand?

[Edgy MD]

This just murdered me. How long has Amazin' Avenue been doing this series.

[Ceetar]

Edgy MD wrote: This just murdered me. How long has Amazin' Avenue been doing this series.

about 5 episodes worth going back 2 weeks.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Yeah, another thing I wanna stab myself for not coming up with first.

[ashie62]

What carries more weight..the blogosphere or traditional media?

It seems if I want to find Mets info fast it would come from here or a similar site.

Are the Met beat writers even relevant anymore?

It certainly is competitive...Hope all the bloggers here have a great year and increase their audience....

[Ceetar]

Edgy MD wrote: This just murdered me. How long has Amazin' Avenue been doing this series.

Have it on the best authority that episode 6 comes out tomorrow at noon.

[Edgy MD]

The Triangle at Grantland gives us a broader version of what Megdal might read like with a broader viewpoint reaching further afield. I approve.

[metirish]

Edgy MD wrote: The Triangle at Grantland gives us a broader version of what Megdal might read like with a broader viewpoint reaching further afield. I approve.

If Megdal {i]did write that you would not approve.....nothing in there less or more offensive than what he does write.

[Edgy MD]

But I just did approve.

How do I deserve that?

[MFS62]

Edgy MD wrote: The Triangle at Grantland gives us a broader version of what Megdal might read like with a broader viewpoint reaching further afield. I approve.

If the only thing the writer can price-compare is a lobster roll, I'm guessing the writer is a Bostonian. And they're still bitter from 1986.

Later

[metirish]

Edgy MD wrote: But I just did approve. How do I deserve that?

Not picking on you man.....just, I think Megdal gets a bad rap here....I take this as you saying this is what Megdal should be writing?

[Edgy MD]

I think the world is better served if a fanboi can write about being disappointed in the team while being a little more self-aware.

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

MFS62 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: The Triangle at Grantland gives us a broader version of what Megdal might read like with a broader viewpoint reaching further afield. I approve. If the only thing the writer can price-compare is a lobster roll, I'm guessing the writer is a Bostonian. And they're still bitter from 1986. Later

He says he's a long-time Mets fan in this article on David Wright.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I dunno. I tire really easily of the wound-licking and doom porn around the team.

Right field, Johan Santana and Dillon Gee worry me, as they should, but otherwise I think things are looking up. And there's an argument to be made for the moves the team did not make that doesn't necessarily lead to the fact that the Wilpons are deadbeat idiots (they'd be deadbeat idiots if expectations were high). We get it. What's the point?

[Edgy MD]

I agree. That's why I like that he can make his point without taking himself seriously. He gets stupid early and often and knows it.

I mean, I visit the Phillies' website and their starting outfield from left to right is Domonic Brown - Ben Revere - Delmon Young. Not a lot of money in the bank there either. Maybe one of them breaks through. Maybe Laynce Nix or John Mayberry steals a job and runs with it. Maybe Darren Ruf makes the jump from AA. But Phillie phans aren't exactly gloating about the names on their side.

[Benjamin Grimm]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I dunno. I tire really easily of the wound-licking and doom porn around the team.

I agree. While I don't think the Mets are likely to contend in 2013, I think they're well positioned for success soon after that. I can see a contending team in 2014 featuring Davis-Murphy-Tejada-Wright in the infield, d'Arnaud catching, and Niese-Harvey-Wheeler-Gee in the pitching rotation. There are still gaps to fill, and it's possible that those gaps won't be filled, but I'm optimistic that we'll see good progress, one way or another, over the next 12 months. 2013 could end up being a turning point year like 1983 was.

[G-Fafif]

The Grantland piece is for a wider audience than just Mets fans. Everybody else may be going about their business without getting a good laugh at our lousy outfield...which can't possibly be as bad as it's been made out to be, which, in turn, gives me a little hope to add on to a few other things that don't look horrible.

A writer presents himself through his writing, so if anyone forms an impression about Howard through his coverage of the Mets, that's fair, but the "Megdal" caricature who is intermittently invoked here really isn't the person I've had the pleasure of knowing these past few years. Maybe Bob Klapisch and Andy Martino aren't the guys I think of them as, either, but I don't know them.

[Edgy MD]

I'm sorry I made this about Howard. I meant to merely make a passing reference.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Sean Fennessey wrote: They charge $17 for a lobster roll at said ballpark... The Mets, though, are still a team with fans and expectations and those $17 lobster rolls.

Besides the point, maybe, but, well... how often has anyone here paid LESS for a lobster roll? (I've had a few dozen, and I can only think of one that cost memorably less.)

[metirish]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Sean Fennessey wrote: They charge $17 for a lobster roll at said ballpark. Besides the point, maybe, but, well... how often has anyone here paid LESS for a lobster roll?

all the way at the end in City Island.....you know the one I'm talking about? Sea Food City?.....I'm going to guess it's cheaper there......bit of a kip that place.

[stevejrogers]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Sean Fennessey wrote: They charge $17 for a lobster roll at said ballpark... The Mets, though, are still a team with fans and expectations and those $17 lobster rolls. Besides the point, maybe, but, well... how often has anyone here paid LESS for a lobster roll? (I've had a few dozen, and I can only think of one that cost memorably less.)

I'd imagine it'd go towards his argument about why the outfield is worse than at any other times in the past. The team is charging an arm and a leg for fine dinning options, in the midst of one of the largest media markets on the planet, and yet they have less than bargin basement talent trotting out there in the outfield.

Not so much that it's expensive, but the fact that it's even there in the first place.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

So when the team is lousy they should replace Shake Shack and Blue Smoke with Burger King and McRib sandwiches? This makes no sense to me.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

metirish wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Sean Fennessey wrote: They charge $17 for a lobster roll at said ballpark. Besides the point, maybe, but, well... how often has anyone here paid LESS for a lobster roll? all the way at the end in City Island.....you know the one I'm talking about? Sea Food City?.....I'm going to guess it's cheaper there......bit of a kip that place.

That's a kind way to put it. But, yeah, perhaps... that said, I've paid $16-17 for one in the Rockaways, and generally pay that much or more all over Long Island/New England.

SteveJRogers wrote: I'd imagine it'd go towards his argument about why the outfield is worse than at any other times in the past. The team is charging an arm and a leg for fine dinning options, in the midst of one of the largest media markets on the planet, and yet they have less than bargin basement talent trotting out there in the outfield. Not so much that it's expensive, but the fact that it's even there in the first place.

Oh, I get it.

I'm all for slagging a team-- especially this team-- for underspending when raking it in; hell, I refuse to park in their lot as a matter of principle (as well as being a skinflint). It's just that the "food is SO pricy" thing is such crap... frankly, it'll cost you about as much to eat pregame if you grab a similarly-sized dinner in Flushing (unless you're grabbing streetside coffee and two buns from Fay Da) or Corona (again, unless you're eating the last torta of the day). The food's expensive, but it's also damn good... and they let you bring in your own if you want. Nail them on parking. Nail them on ridiculous "low-end" ticket pricing. Nail them on $30-for-a-hat. Hell, if you want to get the Mets on food, why not $6-7 for pizza. "Expensive Lobster rolls" smacks of something chosen to give the article a precise "New York twat" kind of flavor.

[batmagadanleadoff]

SteveJRogers wrote: They charge $17 for a lobster roll at said ballpark... The Mets, though, are still a team with fans and expectations and those $17 lobster rolls. Besides the point, maybe, but, well... how often has anyone here paid LESS for a lobster roll? (I've had a few dozen, and I can only think of one that cost memorably less.) I'd imagine it'd go towards his argument about why the outfield is worse than at any other times in the past. The team is charging an arm and a leg for fine dinning options, in the midst of one of the largest media markets on the planet, and yet they have less than bargin basement talent trotting out there in the outfield. Not so much that it's expensive, but the fact that it's even there in the first place.

Agree. Seventeen dollar lobster rolls. Two hundred dollar field level seats. And a Peoria payroll. I never get enough of the Mets bashing, so long as the bashing is based on the honest facts. Ownership's incompetence is not your ordinary ineptness: it's colossal. In fact, I don't think that Met bashing has been going on for as long as it should have. I mean, it essentially took the Madoff incident to trigger most of the negativity about the Mets, when, to my way of seeing things, I recognized eff Wilpon to be bad for the Mets since the late '90's. Megdal may be using his pulpit to bash the Mets for personal reasons, and if that's true, it would be a shame because his column should project objectivity rather than a personal basis. But despite Megdal's possible prejudices, I find most of what he writes, on the merits, to be justifiably true.

[batmagadanleadoff]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Sean Fennessey wrote: They charge $17 for a lobster roll at said ballpark. Besides the point, maybe, but, well... how often has anyone here paid LESS for a lobster roll? all the way at the end in City Island.....you know the one I'm talking about? Sea Food City?.....I'm going to guess it's cheaper there......bit of a kip that place. That's a kind way to put it. But, yeah, perhaps... that said, I've paid $16-17 for one in the Rockaways, and generally pay that much or more all over Long Island/New England. SteveJRogers wrote: I'd imagine it'd go towards his argument about why the outfield is worse than at any other times in the past. The team is charging an arm and a leg for fine dinning options, in the midst of one of the largest media markets on the planet, and yet they have less than bargin basement talent trotting out there in the outfield. Not so much that it's expensive, but the fact that it's even there in the first place. Oh, I get it. I'm all for slagging a team-- especially this team-- for underspending when raking it in; hell, I refuse to park in their lot as a matter of principle (as well as being a skinflint). It's just that the "food is SO pricy" thing is such crap... frankly, it'll cost you about as much to eat pregame if you grab a similarly-sized dinner in Flushing (unless you're grabbing streetside coffee and two buns from Fay Da) or Corona (again, unless you're eating the last torta of the day). The food's expensive, but it's also damn good... and they let you bring in your own if you want. Nail them on parking. Nail them on ridiculous "low-end" ticket pricing. Nail them on $30-for-a-hat. Hell, if you want to get the Mets on food, why not $6-7 for pizza. "Expensive Lobster rolls" smacks of something chosen to give the article a precise "New York twat" kind of flavor.

Also agree with your point. Maybe he could have used a better analogy. It's like rooming at the Waldorf, and paying Waldorf prices and discovering that the hotel's elevators won't be working throughout your stay. I dunno - one of the lowest payrolls, some of the highest ticket prices - the incongruity is offensive and scorn-worthy.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Batmags is the Ron Jeremy of Mets doom porn.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Swan Swan H wrote: Batmags is the Ron Jeremy of Mets doom porn.

I'm not so sure that I get this. (Though I did get your quip, and right away, about Mindy McCready).

[G-Fafif]

When Citi Field opened, I remember the (then $16) lobster roll being the hook for a number of stories, either of an approving nature ("what a menu!") or disparaging ("sixteen bucks at the ballpark?"). Compared with everything else at Citi Field, edible or otherwise, it doesn't seem glaringly outrageous -- and given that your choices aren't $17 lobster roll or hunger, just don't order the fucking lobster roll.

If payroll's gonna be significantly down (which is not necessarily a crime against baseball), it would be bloody brilliant if a few items here and there came down a notch at the concessions/in the stands. Like hot dogs, mainly. That would give the hardcore fan and family a real break. Charge whatever for the exotica, pony up to your own tastes or at your own risk. But dogs, fries, peanuts, pretzels, Cracker Jack, liquid refreshment beverages of a non-alcohol nature...treat them like the baseball staples they are. Maybe throw in one or two non-bad-for-you things while you're at it.