ALCS -- Tigers vs Opponents -- IST

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

TransMonk wrote: Personally, I think it's going to be difficult for Jeter to come back from this at all being 38 years old.

Luckily they have a guy who can play shortstop who is only 37 years old.

[Ceetar]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: It's a lot more fun to root against the MFYs with a healthy Jeter in the fold.

Cause you can hope he fails and his postseason numbers drop.

[Frayed Knot]

Mets � Willets Point wrote: TransMonk wrote: Personally, I think it's going to be difficult for Jeter to come back from this at all being 38 years old. Luckily they have a guy who can play shortstop who is only 37 years old.

Girardi immediately ruled out moving Rodriguez over to SS. Not only has it been years for him but, hell, he can't even commit to keeping him in the batting order at his point.

Jayson (what's that Y doing in there?) Nix, who filled in for the last inning last night, can play SS and Eduaro Nunez, who was inactive for this series due to the Tigers mostly RH hurlers, was added to the roster to replace St. Derek of Jeteria. Nunez is a better hitter than Jeter at this point so it's not like they're going to lose anything there (unless you subscribe to the whole clutch factor thing) but he's a butcher in the field. Maybe you'll see him during Sabathia's game(s) on the theory of more Ks means fewer ground balls to boot.

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: Mets � Willets Point wrote: TransMonk wrote: Personally, I think it's going to be difficult for Jeter to come back from this at all being 38 years old. Luckily they have a guy who can play shortstop who is only 37 years old. Nunez is a better hitter than Jeter at this point so it's not like they're going to lose anything there (unless you subscribe to the whole clutch factor thing) but he's a butcher in the field. Maybe you'll see him during Sabathia's game(s) on the theory of more Ks means fewer ground balls to boot.

Nunez fields more balls too though, so it's probably a wash defensively. He's not as good a hitter though, in fact he's pretty bad. had decent numbers in his small ML stint this year, but was horrible in the minors.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Matthews and the other hacks have already written their stories for this series:

If the Yankees win they rallied together, 25 men playing as one to win it for their fallen captain

If the Tigers win it proves that Jeter is indispensable

I need hockey. NOW!

[Ceetar]

Swan Swan H wrote: Matthews and the other hacks have already written their stories for this series: If the Yankees win they rallied together, 25 men playing as one to win it for their fallen captain If the Tigers win it proves that Jeter is indispensable I need hockey. NOW!

Jesse Spector wrote: Good news is that Derek Jeter is now free to mediate NHL labor talks. Gift basket to the side that makes concessions first.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Heck, the Yankees now will be able to use a shortstop who actually has range.

[Frayed Knot]

I caught about 45 minutes of FAN after the game last night (as late as it was I was a bit too keyed up still to sleep) and, in addition to the expected main topic which was speaking of Jeter in funeral-like tones -- "he would have wanted the Yanquis to go on" ... well, shit, he isn't dead, it's just a fuckin' injury. Clubs deal with them and go on ... y'know, like the Orioles had to without Markakis -- the biggest theme of the night was Swisher and man was he getting creamed! Now obviously he deserves a lot of it: he isn't hitting; there were two catchable balls his way that led to runs; etc., but it went beyond that. Suddenly his goofy-guy act isn't funny anymore; fans are convinced that the fact that he hasn't hit in October means he never will, he's a fuckin' clown who shouldn't be re-signed, and so on.
Girardi was getting his share as well, mostly for the usual crime of not making any of his 30 HR/yr guys bunt more often.

[Ceetar]

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/how_much_does_losing_jeter_hurt_the_yankees_on_paper/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

So there you have it folks. Jeter is not worth any more to the Yankees than Jayson Nix.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Sanchez and Kuroda throwing darts. Through three complete in about 50 minutes. What is, actual baseball?

[MFS62]

Ceetar wrote: So there you have it folks. Jeter is not worth any more to the Yankees than Jayson Nix.

That might be worth its weight in gold when the Yankee fans in my office want to use his injury as an excuse for losing.


Later

[bmfc1]

Not that I'm complaining, but that's an awful call in favor of Detroit. And it ends up costing the MFYs 2 runs.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

We're takin to Detroy-oy-oyt! Comin out of New York, Detroit!

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

With-- Ye Gods-- Verlander looming in Game 3. I [crossout]almost feel sorry for[/crossout] look forward to virtually every encounter I'll have with MFY fans over the next few days.

[Frayed Knot]

Yanx got royally screwed on that call ... and I don't care.

Not to continually dwell on the Jeter injury or anything, but wasn't it nice to hear a telecast without every play by the SS being touted as if not only great but one only that SS could have made with such verve and panache?
Peralta & Nix each made a couple of plays that, while not great, were nice little tricky, well-made plays, but none of them were fawned over like they [crossout]might[/crossout] would have been had it been ol' whatisname out there.

The ARod & Swisher verbal beatings likely to continue tonight and straight through for the next 48 hours until the next game.
Cano has been just as awful but he's got a bit more equity built up and has no obvious replacement.


No surprise that all Yanqui runs so far in the series (all four of them) via the HR.
Cue more calls for Girardi to start bunting.

[metirish]

Love you first line there FK........it's a joy to behold watching them lose.

Leyland handled the closer question perfectly I thought, he's still my closer, we need him but he's getting a rest tonight,went with Coke and stayed with him, nice.

As an aside, Olbermann has been claiming on twitter that he is NOT a MFY fan, only a costumer....the guy is nuts.

[Fman99]

This series is going so well it gives me a boner.

[G-Fafif]

Nick Swisher whining about MFYS III hostility toward him to the Snooze reads like an Onion story almost. My favorite part is his sudden realization that MFYS III isn't Care Bear Village.

Nick Swisher�s relationship with the fans at Yankee Stadium � especially his beloved Bleacher Creatures in right field � admittedly has taken more hits in these playoffs than he�s managed at the plate. Swisher is mired in his fourth consecutive postseason slump since joining the Yankees, and the pending free agent has been noticeably stung that the fans booed their one-time favorite and several teammates throughout most of the back-to-back home losses Saturday and Sunday against the Tigers. �As the game progresses, you�re trying to go up there and get a hit. If you don�t, people let you know about it,� said Swisher, who is batting .154 with one RBI through seven postseason games this October. �It�s a tough spot. Hey man, I guess that�s playing in New York... That�s New York for you. �It�s a crazy game. Being here in New York, obviously there�s a lot of expectations. I don�t know what to say, bro. I�m just going to kind of let it go.� But the always gregarious Swisher couldn�t let it go, especially since he believes some fans made it personal with verbal attacks this weekend aimed at him and several inappropriate tweets about him to his wife, actress JoAnna Garcia. �(Saturday) night was pretty big. A lot of people saying a lot of things that I�ve never heard before,� Swisher said. �Prime example - I missed that ball in the lights and the next thing you know, I�m the reason that (Derek) Jeter got hurt. It�s kind of frustrating. They were saying it was my fault.� Swisher, who may have played his final home game as a Yankee if the series doesn�t return to New York, normally does an emphatic military salute to the Bleacher Creatures during their customary first-inning roll call, but he admittedly took warm-up throws closer to the infield and noticeably toned down his interaction with those fans during Sunday�s 3-0 loss. �That�s the last thing that I ever thought would be in this ballpark, that people would get on you that bad,� said Swisher, who is an unfathomable 1-for-34 with runners in scoring position in his postseason career. �Especially your home, where your heart is, where you�ve been battling and grinding all year long. It�s just frustrating, man. You never want to be in that spot. It�s not like you�re trying to go out there and do bad on purpose. It�s just tough, man. �It hurts. Sometimes I�m a sensitive guy and some of the things people say, they get under your skin a little bit. I�ve been lucky to be here for the past four years, bro. We�re not going to go out like this. We�re going to go to Detroit and give everything we�ve got.� Swisher even allowed that it might be beneficial to the Yankees to get away from the Bronx for the next three games - well, two, at least - after the hostile reception they�ve received at times from the home crowd while struggling to produce runs in the postseason. �Maybe, man. I�ve been so fortunate to be here and play every day. When things kind of turn like that, it kind of hurts a little bit,� Swisher said. �This is the type of city and crowd that really rallies around their team. That�s the reason we�ve got 27 championships. To go through a stretch like this where it�s kind of a negative attitude, a negative type setting, that�s tough. But hey, that�s part of the game. Rightfully so. There are a lot of expectations here and I guess when you don�t get the job done, you�re going to hear about it. �I�m one of those guys that if you give me a hug, I�ll run through a brick wall for you, man. It just seems right now like there�s just a lot of... I�m trying to find a way to word this the right way. . . . It�s tough. It�s really tough. You want to go out and play for your city, play for your team. Right now, it�s just really tough.�

[bmfc1]

Good thing he's strategizing about how to minimize the reaction during the "roll call" rather than thinking about the game. Maybe if those mean fans give him a hug (bro), he'd play better.

[Frayed Knot]

I haven't listened to Francesa more than a handful of times all year, but I tuned in today to hear what road he was going to take on the Yanx -- and he was surprisingly tough on his team.

- Yes Jeter's injured but all teams have hurdles they have to overcome. He didn't add that we hear nothing about how they just squeaked by a team missing Markakis who is a much bigger part of the O's offense than Jeter is to the Yanx, so I'll do it here.
- Yes the ump's call sucked but the Yanx have gotten plenty go their way over the years so you can't yell foul now. Get over it and hit.
- Complaining about Cano not hustling and looking lax on defense sounds hollow now when no one gets on him when he does those things all year as long as he's hitting
- empty seats in the stadium were 'covered up' for TV purposes. He claims entire sections that were empty in the 3rd inning were suddenly filled by the 6th
- Why is Swisher surprised (see GF's above post) to discover that the fans aren't happy with him?
- You want breaks? Make you own!

[metsmarathon]

�That�s the last thing that I ever thought would be in this ballpark, that people would get on you that bad,� said Swisher

wow, yeah, i mean, who would ever think new york fans would be hard on a struggling athlete. that like never happens. ever.

[Ceetar]

metsmarathon wrote: �That�s the last thing that I ever thought would be in this ballpark, that people would get on you that bad,� said Swisher wow, yeah, i mean, who would ever think new york fans would be hard on a struggling athlete. that like never happens. ever.

It's like he's completely oblivious to everything about the A-Rod/Yankees fan relationship. This is shaping up to be a pretty horrific ending to the season for the Yankees. not selling out, ushers moving fans into empty seats so it looks better, guys making postseason outs at historic paces, not hitting, Jeter getting hurt. I think we're one rampant steroid allegation from George rising from the grave to stir up some chaos.

[metsmarathon]

Ceetar wrote: metsmarathon wrote: �That�s the last thing that I ever thought would be in this ballpark, that people would get on you that bad,� said Swisher wow, yeah, i mean, who would ever think new york fans would be hard on a struggling athlete. that like never happens. ever. It's like he's completely oblivious to everything about the A-Rod/Yankees fan relationship. This is shaping up to be a pretty [crossout]horrific[/crossout] terrific ending to the season for the Yankees. not selling out, ushers moving fans into empty seats so it looks better, guys making postseason outs at historic paces, not hitting, Jeter getting hurt. I think we're one rampant steroid allegation from George rising from the grave to stir up some chaos.

fixed it for you

[Ceetar]

terrifically horrific.

[metirish]

Rodriguez just keeps on giving.......


A-rod plays field
Hits on gals at ALCS game
By EMILY SMITH
Last Updated: 7:50 AM, October 16, 2012
Posted: 3:36 AM, October 16, 2012

He�s got balls. Shameless Yankee slugger Alex Rodriguez was playing so poorly against the Detroit Tigers Saturday night that he was yanked from the lineup � but that didn�t stop him from trying to score. After being replaced in the bottom of the eighth inning in Game 1 of the American League Championship Series, the highest-paid Yankee openly flirted with a pair of pretty women two rows behind the dugout � even sending them a ball bearing a note asking for their phone numbers, a witness told The Post. �I watched him flirt with two admittedly very cute young women nearby,�� the witness said. Instead of rooting on his teammates as they struggled to stay alive during the tense game at Yankee Stadium, A-Rod, 37, had a ball boy toss the young women a baseball inscribed with a message asking for their numbers. �Alex was holding a pen and wrote a note on a ball which was thrown at the women by a ball boy,�� the witness explained. �The girls, who had already caught two balls, seemed bemused at first and tried to hand the ball to another fan, but other fans noticed the note on it and yelled at them to read it. �The note asked them to write their phone numbers on the ball and throw it back,�� the witness said. �One of the girls, with darker blond hair, wrote . . . on the ball and threw it back at A-Rod, who gave her a big smile.� �They exchanged a few glances after that,�� as A-Rod took a powder while a pinch-hitter took his place at the plate. Raul Ibanez performed under pressure, tying the score in the bottom of the ninth. In the 12th, team captain Derek Jeter broke his ankle � and A-Rod finally wised up, the witness said. �The flirtation stopped once Derek Jeter got hurt,� the source said. The Yanks wound up losing 6-4. They also lost again to the Tigers 3-0 on Sunday. Fans sitting behind the dugout at Saturday�s game said they were disgusted after witnessing A-Rod�s shenanigans, which were more befitting a sixth-grader than a serious ballplayer. �I was absolutely stunned that even . . . A-Rod would not be focusing on such a critical game, supporting his teammates, and was instead more interested in adding another couple of phone numbers to what must be a very, very large collection,�� one said. A-Rod�s rep referred questions to a team spokesman, who didn�t get back to The Post last night. Rodriguez is currently dating wrestler Torre Wilson. As Page Six revealed last year, Jeter also has used baseball memorabilia to win over the ladies. After bedding a beauty, he�d send her home alone with gift baskets of autographed memorabilia. He is dating model Hannah Davis, who was spotted in his family box Saturday.

[Ceetar]

Jeter never would've done that. He would've called up and had an usher take the two woman secretly out back to the clubhouse to wait for him.

[metirish]

Ceetar wrote: Jeter never would've done that. He would've called up and had an usher take the two woman secretly out back to the clubhouse to wait for him.

Ha!

then this

�The flirtation stopped once Derek Jeter got hurt,� the source said.

of course it did, I'm surprised the world didn't stop.

[Ceetar]

This isn't something _I_ generally judge people for, but many do. Can people (Buzz Bissinger most recently 2 hours ago) un-sarcastically write "Baseball's classiest act" about a guy dating a 22 year old girl 16 years younger than him?

Hannah Davis:

[Frayed Knot]

Isn't there some kind of goofy formula for determining the "proper" limit for guys dating younger women?
Something like half your age plus 7 years sticks in my head.
If that's correct then this 22 y/o would be out of bounds for Jeter: X=(38/2)+7= 26



As for ARod: I've long thought that he gets a lot more abuse than he deserves but, holy sheeeet, he deserves a whole lot of it.

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: Isn't there some kind of goofy formula for determining the "proper" limit for guys dating younger women? Something like half your age plus 7 years sticks in my head. If that's correct then this 22 y/o would be out of bounds for Jeter: X=(38/2)+7= 26 As for ARod: I've long thought that he gets a lot more abuse than he deserves but, holy sheeeet, he deserves a whole lot of it.

Yeah, that's the formula that makes its way around. I mean, 18 months ago she couldn't even drink. Or is it somehow 'okay' because she's famous too and famous people exist solely for our entertainment? If it was A-Rod, I can't imagine the media/fans letting it go.

And the thing about him is most of this stuff is not that big a deal if he owned it, but he seems so to so desperately want the approval that these things come off so much worse for him. Isn't noticing hot women in the stands one of those things that people are always joking about players doing? And hell, I bet plenty of them have done just what A-Rod did over the years.