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So is the Jerry Manual talk real or just to satisfy quota interviews?
I'm betting on the latter.


And it turns out that at least getting to the WS is good enough to net one-year extensions for Jim Leyland and all his coaches in Detroit.


TEAMMANAGERSTATUSUPDATES
BRAVESFredi GonzalezSigned thru 2013 + 2014 option
MARLINSOzzie GuillenSigned thru 2015 - Fired 10/23
METSTerry CollinsSigned thru 2012 + 2013 optionOption picked up for 2013
PHILLIESCharlie ManuelSigned thru 2013
NATIONALSDavey JohnsonSigned thru 2013
CUBSDale SveumSigned thru 2014
REDSDusty BakerSigned thru 2012Extended thru 2014
BREWERSRon RoenickeSigned thru 2014 + 2015 option
PIRATESClint HurdleSigned thru 2013
CARDINALSMike MathenySigned thru 2013 + 2014 option
DIAMONDBACKSKirk GibsonSigned thru 2014 + �15 & �16 options
ROCKIESJim TracySigned thru 2013 - Resigned 10/7
DODGERSDon MattinglySigned thru 2013
PADRESBud BlackSigned thru 2013 + options for �14 + �15
GIANTSBruce BochySigned thru 2013 + option for �14
ORIOLESBuck ShowalterSigned thru 2013
RED SOXBobby ValentineSigned thru 2013 - Fired Oct 2012Hired John Farrell away from Toronto - signed thru 2016
YANKEESJoe GirardiSigned thru 2013
RAYSJoe MaddonSigned thru 2015
BLUE JAYSJohn FarrellSigned thru 2013 - Had his rights traded to Boston
WHITE SOXRobin VenturaSigned thru 2014
INDIANSManny Acta=#FF0000]Fired Sept 2012Hired Terry Francona - signed thru 2016
TIGERSJim LeylandSigned thru 2012Extended thru 2013
ROYALSNed YostClub option for 2013
TWINSRon GardernhireSigned thru 2013
ANGELSMike SciosciaSigned thru 2018
ATHLETICSBob MelvinSigned thru 2014
MARINERSEric WedgeSigned thru 2013
RANGERSRon WashingtonSigned thru 2014
ASTROSBrad Mills=#FF0000]Fired in AugustBo Porter hired for 2013 - ??


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Frayed Knot wrote:
So is the Jerry Manual talk real or just to satisfy quota interviews?
I'm betting on the latter.

But triggering more than a little hate talk out there.


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And another ex-catcher graduates to manager. This time in Florida


TEAMMANAGERSTATUSUPDATES
BRAVESFredi GonzalezSigned thru 2013 + 2014 option
MARLINSOzzie GuillenSigned thru 2015 - Fired 10/23Mike Redmond hired on a 3-year contract
METSTerry CollinsSigned thru 2012 + 2013 optionOption picked up for 2013
PHILLIESCharlie ManuelSigned thru 2013
NATIONALSDavey JohnsonSigned thru 2013
CUBSDale SveumSigned thru 2014
REDSDusty BakerSigned thru 2012Extended thru 2014
BREWERSRon RoenickeSigned thru 2014 + 2015 option
PIRATESClint HurdleSigned thru 2013
CARDINALSMike MathenySigned thru 2013 + 2014 option
DIAMONDBACKSKirk GibsonSigned thru 2014 + �15 & �16 options
ROCKIESJim TracySigned thru 2013 - Resigned 10/7
DODGERSDon MattinglySigned thru 2013
PADRESBud BlackSigned thru 2013 + options for �14 + �15
GIANTSBruce BochySigned thru 2013 + option for �14
ORIOLESBuck ShowalterSigned thru 2013
RED SOXBobby ValentineSigned thru 2013 - Fired Oct 2012Hired John Farrell away from Toronto - signed thru 2016
YANKEESJoe GirardiSigned thru 2013
RAYSJoe MaddonSigned thru 2015
BLUE JAYSJohn FarrellSigned thru 2013 - Had his rights traded to Boston
WHITE SOXRobin VenturaSigned thru 2014
INDIANSManny Acta=#FF0000]Fired Sept 2012Hired Terry Francona - signed thru 2016
TIGERSJim LeylandSigned thru 2012Extended thru 2013
ROYALSNed YostClub option for 2013
TWINSRon GardernhireSigned thru 2013
ANGELSMike SciosciaSigned thru 2018
ATHLETICSBob MelvinSigned thru 2014
MARINERSEric WedgeSigned thru 2013
RANGERSRon WashingtonSigned thru 2014
ASTROSBrad Mills=#FF0000]Fired in AugustBo Porter hired for 2013 - ??


Mike Redmond is one of those guys where, I know the name, but even though he played for 13 seasons in the majors and as recently ago as 2010, there's nothing in particular I remember about him.
The good thing about him getting a 3-year deal is that the Marlins will finish paying for him right at the same time they finish paying for Ozzie.

Looks like we're just waiting on the Rockies and Blue Jays at this point and that'll be the last of the red ink for this winter.


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Great description of Redmond. I knew he played for the Marlins but nothing else. Looks like the Marlins have trod the well worn road of hiring the polar opposite of the previous manager.


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I count at least 5 former Mets in the managerial ranks.


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Go ahead, do it, Toronto I dare you.

For anyone looking at hiring a manager, Art Howe would prefer you not consider him to be anything like Philip Seymour Hoffman in Moneyball. "In the movie I never smiled once," a smiling Howe [said]. ... Art Howe wants to be the next manager of your Toronto Blue Jays. "I want to manage again, the best thing I have going for me is my experience -- seven years in the NL, seven in the AL," said Howe, 65. "Toronto has always been an interesting team, they have some nice talent and were very competitive until they fell off with those injuries to their position players. The New York Yankees are a little long in the tooth, with 13 free agents. Toronto plays in the toughest division in baseball, but they are only a few pieces away from doing something."

Toronto Sun


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Word on the street is Walt Weiss is the heavy favorite in Denver.


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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Word on the street is Walt Weiss is the heavy favorite in Denver.


Supposedly down to him and Matt Williams.
Weiss is currently coaching HS ball in the Denver area. Williams is with the DBacks.


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I conflate: Walt Weiss and Mike Bordick.

One was a first round draft pick, the other a rare big leaguer who initially signed after going undrafted. Yet I conlate.


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I just conflated him with Wes Westrum, thinking "surely he must me dead."


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Is Walt Weiss the local guy? Suffern, NY? Or is that BJ Surhoff?

Edit: Weiss is from Suffern; Surhoff from Rye.


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Weiss it is.
Will games between the Rox & Padres now be cast as good vs evil? (Weiss vs Black)
Sixth manager in Rox history (can you name the first five?)
Formerly of the A's, Marlins, Rox & Braves. 16 year career, 1 ASG, 1 RoY
Had been special assistant to Rox, then left to coach his kid in HS near Denver
Gets points off for naming his kids Bo, Brock, Blake & Brody


TEAMMANAGERSTATUSUPDATES
BRAVESFredi GonzalezSigned thru 2013 + 2014 option
MARLINSOzzie GuillenSigned thru 2015 - Fired 10/23Mike Redmond hired on a 3-year contract
METSTerry CollinsSigned thru 2012 + 2013 optionOption picked up for 2013
PHILLIESCharlie ManuelSigned thru 2013
NATIONALSDavey JohnsonSigned thru 2013
CUBSDale SveumSigned thru 2014
REDSDusty BakerSigned thru 2012Extended thru 2014
BREWERSRon RoenickeSigned thru 2014 + 2015 option
PIRATESClint HurdleSigned thru 2013
CARDINALSMike MathenySigned thru 2013 + 2014 option
DIAMONDBACKSKirk GibsonSigned thru 2014 + �15 & �16 options
ROCKIESJim TracySigned thru 2013 - Resigned 10/7Hired Walt Weiss - Nov '12
DODGERSDon MattinglySigned thru 2013
PADRESBud BlackSigned thru 2013 + options for �14 + �15
GIANTSBruce BochySigned thru 2013 + option for �14
ORIOLESBuck ShowalterSigned thru 2013
RED SOXBobby ValentineSigned thru 2013 - Fired Oct 2012Hired John Farrell away from Toronto - signed thru 2016
YANKEESJoe GirardiSigned thru 2013
RAYSJoe MaddonSigned thru 2015
BLUE JAYSJohn FarrellSigned thru 2013 - Had his rights traded to Boston
WHITE SOXRobin VenturaSigned thru 2014
INDIANSManny Acta=#FF0000]Fired Sept 2012Hired Terry Francona - signed thru 2016
TIGERSJim LeylandSigned thru 2012Extended thru 2013
ROYALSNed YostClub option for 2013
TWINSRon GardernhireSigned thru 2013
ANGELSMike SciosciaSigned thru 2018
ATHLETICSBob MelvinSigned thru 2014
MARINERSEric WedgeSigned thru 2013
RANGERSRon WashingtonSigned thru 2014
ASTROSBrad Mills=#FF0000]Fired in AugustBo Porter hired for 2013 - ??




Past Managers Answer: Don Baylor (1993-1998); Jim Leyland (1999); Buddy Bell (2000-2002); Clint Hurdle (2003-2009); Jim Tracy (2009-2012)


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Ventura, Redmond, Weiss. Maybe this is the new search for market efficiency? Managers with no experience. Even if this doesn't become widespread, seems to be bad news for the Backmans, Sandbergs, and Teufels out there who have been biding their time in the bushes.


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Did Weiss only get a one year deal?, thought I saw that but can't find it in any report, saw this though and it sounds nuts

The former major league shortstop replaces manager Jim Tracy, who resigned Oct. 7 with one year and $1.4 million left on his contract rather than return to a club where its assistant general manager had moved his office into the clubhouse



who the fuck does that?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-57546930/walt-weiss-hired-as-colorado-rockies-manager-after-coaching-high-school-team/


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Davey Johnson had been under contract with the Nats for next year but only in the non-specific advisor role that he held prior to being installed as the field manager.
He is now re-upped for the 2013 season as manager although says now that it'll be the final one.


TEAMMANAGERSTATUSUPDATES
BRAVESFredi GonzalezSigned thru 2013 + 2014 option
MARLINSOzzie GuillenSigned thru 2015 - Fired 10/23Mike Redmond hired on a 3-year contract
METSTerry CollinsSigned thru 2012 + 2013 optionOption picked up for 2013
PHILLIESCharlie ManuelSigned thru 2013
NATIONALSDavey JohnsonSigned thru 2013Returns for the 2013 season
CUBSDale SveumSigned thru 2014
REDSDusty BakerSigned thru 2012Extended thru 2014
BREWERSRon RoenickeSigned thru 2014 + 2015 option
PIRATESClint HurdleSigned thru 2013
CARDINALSMike MathenySigned thru 2013 + 2014 option
DIAMONDBACKSKirk GibsonSigned thru 2014 + �15 & �16 options
ROCKIESJim TracySigned thru 2013 - Resigned 10/7Hired Walt Weiss for 2013 season
DODGERSDon MattinglySigned thru 2013
PADRESBud BlackSigned thru 2013 + options for �14 + �15
GIANTSBruce BochySigned thru 2013 + option for �14
ORIOLESBuck ShowalterSigned thru 2013
RED SOXBobby ValentineSigned thru 2013 - Fired Oct 2012Hired John Farrell away from Toronto - signed thru 2016
YANKEESJoe GirardiSigned thru 2013
RAYSJoe MaddonSigned thru 2015
BLUE JAYSJohn FarrellSigned thru 2013 - Had his rights traded to Boston
WHITE SOXRobin VenturaSigned thru 2014
INDIANSManny Acta=#FF0000]Fired Sept 2012Hired Terry Francona - signed thru 2016
TIGERSJim LeylandSigned thru 2012Extended thru 2013
ROYALSNed YostClub option for 2013
TWINSRon GardernhireSigned thru 2013
ANGELSMike SciosciaSigned thru 2018
ATHLETICSBob MelvinSigned thru 2014
MARINERSEric WedgeSigned thru 2013
RANGERSRon WashingtonSigned thru 2014
ASTROSBrad Mills=#FF0000]Fired in AugustBo Porter hired for 2013 - ??


  • 2 weeks later...
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Padres decide that, unlike 'Smell the Glove', their future can get more Black



TEAMMANAGERSTATUSUPDATES
BRAVESFredi GonzalezSigned thru 2013 + 2014 option
MARLINSOzzie GuillenSigned thru 2015 - Fired 10/23Mike Redmond hired on a 3-year contract
METSTerry CollinsSigned thru 2012 + 2013 optionOption picked up for 2013
PHILLIESCharlie ManuelSigned thru 2013
NATIONALSDavey JohnsonSigned thru 2013Returns for the 2013 season
CUBSDale SveumSigned thru 2014
REDSDusty BakerSigned thru 2012Extended thru 2014
BREWERSRon RoenickeSigned thru 2014 + 2015 option
PIRATESClint HurdleSigned thru 2013
CARDINALSMike MathenySigned thru 2013 + 2014 option
DIAMONDBACKSKirk GibsonSigned thru 2014 + �15 & �16 options
ROCKIESJim TracySigned thru 2013 - Resigned 10/7Hired Walt Weiss for 2013 season
DODGERSDon MattinglySigned thru 2013
PADRESBud BlackSigned thru 2013 + options for �14 + �152014 + '15 Options picked up
GIANTSBruce BochySigned thru 2013 + option for �14
ORIOLESBuck ShowalterSigned thru 2013
RED SOXBobby ValentineSigned thru 2013 - Fired Oct 2012Hired John Farrell away from Toronto - signed thru 2016
YANKEESJoe GirardiSigned thru 2013
RAYSJoe MaddonSigned thru 2015
BLUE JAYSJohn FarrellSigned thru 2013 - Had his rights traded to Boston
WHITE SOXRobin VenturaSigned thru 2014
INDIANSManny Acta=#FF0000]Fired Sept 2012Hired Terry Francona - signed thru 2016
TIGERSJim LeylandSigned thru 2012Extended thru 2013
ROYALSNed YostClub option for 2013
TWINSRon GardernhireSigned thru 2013
ANGELSMike SciosciaSigned thru 2018
ATHLETICSBob MelvinSigned thru 2014
MARINERSEric WedgeSigned thru 2013
RANGERSRon WashingtonSigned thru 2014
ASTROSBrad Mills=#FF0000]Fired in AugustBo Porter hired for 2013 - ??


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Blue Jays crank up their DeLorean and go back to the future by naming one-time NYM (1984 + 1986 -- 50 ABs total) and former TBJ manager (2004-2008 -- 305-305 record) John Gibbons as their skipper for 2013.
Terms/length of the deal is yet a secret - possibly to be revealed during the upcoming big 'Enchantment Under the Sea' dance.


TEAMMANAGERSTATUSUPDATES
BRAVESFredi GonzalezSigned thru 2013 + 2014 option
MARLINSOzzie GuillenSigned thru 2015 - Fired 10/23Mike Redmond hired on a 3-year contract
METSTerry CollinsSigned thru 2012 + 2013 optionOption picked up for 2013
PHILLIESCharlie ManuelSigned thru 2013
NATIONALSDavey JohnsonSigned thru 2013Returns for the 2013 season
CUBSDale SveumSigned thru 2014
REDSDusty BakerSigned thru 2012Extended thru 2014
BREWERSRon RoenickeSigned thru 2014 + 2015 option
PIRATESClint HurdleSigned thru 2013
CARDINALSMike MathenySigned thru 2013 + 2014 option
DIAMONDBACKSKirk GibsonSigned thru 2014 + �15 & �16 options
ROCKIESJim TracySigned thru 2013 - Resigned 10/7Hired Walt Weiss for 2013 season
DODGERSDon MattinglySigned thru 2013
PADRESBud BlackSigned thru 2013 + options for �14 + �152014 + '15 Options picked up
GIANTSBruce BochySigned thru 2013 + option for �14
ORIOLESBuck ShowalterSigned thru 2013
RED SOXBobby ValentineSigned thru 2013 - Fired Oct 2012Hired John Farrell away from Toronto - signed thru 2016
YANKEESJoe GirardiSigned thru 2013
RAYSJoe MaddonSigned thru 2015
BLUE JAYSJohn FarrellSigned thru 2013 - Had his rights traded to BostonRe-Hired John Gibbons
WHITE SOXRobin VenturaSigned thru 2014
INDIANSManny Acta=#FF0000]Fired Sept 2012Hired Terry Francona - signed thru 2016
TIGERSJim LeylandSigned thru 2012Extended thru 2013
ROYALSNed YostClub option for 2013
TWINSRon GardernhireSigned thru 2013
ANGELSMike SciosciaSigned thru 2018
ATHLETICSBob MelvinSigned thru 2014
MARINERSEric WedgeSigned thru 2013
RANGERSRon WashingtonSigned thru 2014
ASTROSBrad Mills=#FF0000]Fired in AugustBo Porter hired for 2013 - ??


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I heard it will be announced Today.
Well, the GM said they wanted someone with an edge. I guess a guy who twice challenged players to a fistfight in his first go 'round with the team qualifies.

Later


Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket
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Marty Noble loves John Gibbons. Loves him! I'm sure he'll come out of semiretirement to profile him soon.


  • 1 month later...
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Bob Melvin gets two-year extension.

Billy Beane, reputed to dismiss the importance of the field manager, gives Bob Melvin a two-year extension, giving his field manager more job security than anybody in the business this side of Mike Scoscia.


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Small market AL teams dishing out long-term deals these days; first Melvin in Oakland and now Showalter (along with GM Duquette) in Bal'mer get inked through 2018.



TEAMMANAGERSTATUSUPDATES
BRAVESFredi GonzalezSigned thru 2013 + 2014 option
MARLINSOzzie GuillenSigned thru 2015 - Fired 10/23Mike Redmond hired on a 3-year contract
METSTerry CollinsSigned thru 2012 + 2013 optionOption picked up for 2013
PHILLIESCharlie ManuelSigned thru 2013
NATIONALSDavey JohnsonSigned thru 2013Returns for the 2013 season
CUBSDale SveumSigned thru 2014
REDSDusty BakerSigned thru 2012Extended thru 2014
BREWERSRon RoenickeSigned thru 2014 + 2015 option
PIRATESClint HurdleSigned thru 2013
CARDINALSMike MathenySigned thru 2013 + 2014 option
DIAMONDBACKSKirk GibsonSigned thru 2014 + �15 & �16 options
ROCKIESJim TracySigned thru 2013 - Resigned 10/7Hired Walt Weiss for 2013 season
DODGERSDon MattinglySigned thru 2013
PADRESBud BlackSigned thru 2013 + options for �14 + �152014 + '15 Options picked up
GIANTSBruce BochySigned thru 2013 + option for �14
ORIOLESBuck ShowalterSigned thru 2013=#FF0000]Extended through 2018
RED SOXBobby ValentineSigned thru 2013 - Fired Oct 2012Hired John Farrell away from Toronto - signed thru 2016
YANKEESJoe GirardiSigned thru 2013
RAYSJoe MaddonSigned thru 2015
BLUE JAYSJohn FarrellSigned thru 2013 - Had his rights traded to BostonRe-Hired John Gibbons
WHITE SOXRobin VenturaSigned thru 2014
INDIANSManny Acta=#FF0000]Fired Sept 2012Hired Terry Francona - signed thru 2016
TIGERSJim LeylandSigned thru 2012Extended thru 2013
ROYALSNed YostClub option for 2013
TWINSRon GardernhireSigned thru 2013
ANGELSMike SciosciaSigned thru 2018
ATHLETICSBob MelvinSigned thru 2014=#FF0000]Extended through 2016
MARINERSEric WedgeSigned thru 2013
RANGERSRon WashingtonSigned thru 2014
ASTROSBrad Mills=#FF0000]Fired in AugustBo Porter hired for 2013 - ??


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