Welcome Kelly Shoppach

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I suppose there is not chance the player to be named later is Bay.

They really liked Bay in Boston for some reason I could never figure out.

[batmagadanleadoff]

"Fuck Mike Marshall"

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

40th Met to wear No. 6 (most popular joisey evah)

[seawolf17]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: 28 posts about Kelly Shoppach in less than 24 hours - a record setting number in the category of posts to talent ratio.

I'm pretty sure a search here for "Jason Bay" would definitely blow that record out of the water.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

And so would "Jose Lima," although the total would be considerably less if the search were "Jose Lima -wife"

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

Swan Swan H wrote: And so would "Jose Lima," although the total would be considerably less if the search were "Jose Lima -wife"

Or just this gif

[Edgy MD]

Unfortunately, the "Welcome Jose Lima" thread became merged with the "Welcome to Ms. Lima" sentiments by the second post, thanks to, um, me.

[Edgy MD]

Holy crap! That thread has Rotblatt's now-classic explication of the WHOMP statistic. Great job, archivists!

[nymr83]

Mets � Willets Point wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: I suppose there is not chance the player to be named later is Bay. They really liked Bay in Boston for some reason I could never figure out.

I think it was because he actually hit the ball when he was there.

[G-Fafif]

Someday the Mets' array of backup catchers (Thole perhaps among them) can back up Cam Maron, profiled today by Adam Rubin.

[Vic Sage]

PTBNL = Pedro Beato.

me no likee.

[smg58]

Me no likee either.

[Ceetar]

so basically we traded him for a 40 man roster spot next year.

[seawolf17]

Which we would have had when we dumped Shoppach and his six weeks of batting .180 anyway.

Fuckin' hell, Mets.

[Edgy MD]

Hey now, don't quit on Kelly!

[Frayed Knot]

It all makes the timing of this trade even tougher to understand.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Let's see if they have Shoppach catch Dickey for the rest of his starts. That is an audition that is worth something, if not necessarily Beato.

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: It all makes the timing of this trade even tougher to understand.

not really. They get 6 weeks of up close and personal evaluation of a guy they had on their radar for next year anyway. And get him to get his feet wet with the pitchers he'd catch.

All for a guy they were going to DFA. Which clears up a 40 man roster spot that was being used by a minor leaguer (Shoppach is going to take Nickeas' or Johnson's)

[Edgy MD]

Wait... we knew Beato was being DFA'd?

[Gwreck]

You don't give away prospects (however loosely that term may apply to Beato) for EVALUATION time for a platoon/backup catcher. Seriously?

[Frayed Knot]

What Edgy said + what GWreck said.
It'd be different if Shoppach was younger and/or more controllable, but he's neither.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Wait... we knew Beato was being DFA'd?

I think that can be assumed by him being named. Not whether or not he was ever going to be useful, but the Mets only gave him 4 innings, and need relievers that can get the job done/strike guys out. So he clearly wasn't impressing them, and despite Alderson suggesting they haven't started thinking about the 2013 budget yet, they know they'll need roster spots and if they decided Beato was the 40th man and were going to DFA him to get him off the roster anyway.. I think this makes more sense than Alderson was playing dice games with the Red Sox and lost?

Gwreck wrote: You don't give away prospects (however loosely that term may apply to Beato) for EVALUATION time for a platoon/backup catcher. Seriously?

You do if he's not a prospect and simply a AAAA reliever that you don't believe is going to work out.

I mean, the Mets DFAd Fernando Martinez and Josh Satin this year. Those guys may be higher 'prospects' than Beato.

[Edgy MD]

So you mean DFA'd in December or something. OK, I guess. But I see seven or eight free agents and three or so guys to (more or less safely) slide off the roster before him.

[bmfc1]

Martino has more on Shoppach today with regard to BV:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/adrian-gonzalez-hook-ny-mets-kelly-shoppach-takes-fall-boston-text-mutiny-article-1.1139537

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

It would be hilarious if Shoppach re-upped, Terry and Bobby Vgot the axe, and the Mets brought on Bobby V at their helm.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Speaking of F-Mart, has he spent any time in Houston?

[Edgy MD]

"That message came from Gonzalez's phone, but those weren't his words. Or even his feelings. He really didn't know what the message said. And if the message looks bad, well, he had nothing to do with it. The primary guy was, um, the guy who isn't here anymore."

Come on. Seriously? I'm supposed to buy that? That's pathetic. It's worse. It's pathet�que.

[bmfc1]

Agreed, Edgy. Gonzalez let Shoppach use his phone? Shoppach knows enough about mobile phones that he was tweeting pix from the Smithsonian yesterday--he would have used his own. Someone there is using the guy that left as a scapegoat.

Speaking of BV:
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/19825776/wth-red-sox-a-mess-from-top-to-bottom-bobby-v-never-had-a-chance
The stuff about Tim Bogar was interesting.

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy DC wrote: "That message come from Gonzalez's phone, but those weren't his words. Or even his feelings. He really didn't know what the message said. And if the message looks bad, well, he had nothing to do with it. The primary guy was, um, the guy who isn't here anymore." Come on. Seriously? I'm supposed to buy that? That's pathetic. It's worse. It's pathet�que.

I think Congressman Weiner was using a similar denial ... at least for a while.

[Edgy MD]

I was thinking of the Reagan Administration during Iran-Contra. "Who's dead? Casey's dead? Well, then, this was all his idea."