Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 Metsblog reporting that LaRussa has named Terry Collins to the All-Star coaching staff.Which Mets are making the trip with him?I think Wright for sure, and Dickey and possibly Santana.
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 LaRussa gets to manage the All-Star game?
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 Edgy DC wrote:Pelfrey.I thought Pelfrey got hosed a couple years ago when he was 10-2 at the break and didn't get on the team.If only we could clone Harvey Dorfman.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 metsguyinmichigan wrote:Metsblog reporting that LaRussa has named Terry Collins to the All-Star coaching staff.Which Mets are making the trip with him?I think Wright for sure, and Dickey and possibly Santana.unless we get our act together/vote I'm not sure anyone else gets in besides those.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 HahnSolo wrote:LaRussa gets to manage the All-Star game?my first thought exactly , this game means something dammit.
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 HahnSolo wrote:LaRussa gets to manage the All-Star game?Yup. Since he's the reigning world champion manager and retired, he gets to come back. I suspect it would have been different had hebeen fired.What happened to Yogi after the MFY's canned him for losing the World Series? Did his replacement manage the next year's game, or did they have a different system?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 Bob Lemon managed the 1982 All Star Game after getting sacked by the Yanks a few weeks into the season.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 Ceetar wrote:unless we get our act together/vote I'm not sure anyone else gets in besides those.What, for Lucas Duda, starting outfielder?The only mystery is if both Santana AND Dickey make it, or just one of them. Wright will either start or be a reserve.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 Wright and Dickey 2012
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 I think I remember Danny Murtagh coming out of retirement to manage the NL team in 1972.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 Good on Terry.Wright and Dickey should be in. I would have said Johan before his start last Friday.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 Edgy DC wrote:Bob Lemon managed the 1982 All Star Game after getting sacked by the Yanks a few weeks into the season.I take it back. Billy Martin led the 1982 American Leaguers with an Oakland A uniform on his back.What's wrong with me?
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 Dickey and Wright. Johan? A toss-up.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 We had our shit together on Dickey and Wright before the season started...but didn't know shit about Ike.viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17564
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 Terry seems very "in" with the old boys network managerially speaking, branching off the La Russa/Leyland tree plust with the Dodger roots. Guess that comes from being a longtime baseball man and not being distracted by philosophy or whatever it was that made Jerry Manuel seem interesting before he just seemed an albatross. When SNY showed the Bisons game the other night, they were promoting the Triple-A All-Star Game there by harking back to the 1988 affair that was also in town. Managing in that game: a younger but still generally old Terry Collins of the Albuquerque Dukes.When R.A. is announced at Kaufman Stadium as the starting pitcher, instead of showing him warming up in the bullpen, he should enter after swimming the Missouri River.
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 Terry said something sensible in today's DNews. When being asked about the bullpen, he made it clear that the only person who has a role is Francisco, and everybody else's role "is to get the guy out standing in the batter's box". Here here!... Except the Francisco thing, but you gotta start somewhere.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 Vic Sage wrote:Terry said something sensible in today's DNews. When being asked about the bullpen, he made it clear that the only person who has a role is Francisco, and everybody else's role "is to get the guy out standing in the batter's box". Here here!... Except the Francisco thing, but you gotta start somewhere.I thought the same when I heard that Collins quote from yesterday's post-game presser.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 John Harper, in an article on the same two-page spread, said that most managers hate the "defined roles" thing but reluctantly go along with it.I'm also very glad that Terry is breaking that mold. I wish I had more confidence that it was a permanent thing, but I suspect that once somebody emerges as a good choice for the "eighth inning role" then that role will become official. And so on for the seventh inning, etc.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 Terry is slowly-but-surely coming around to some pretty impressively open-minded positions on a lot of things. I wonder if the daily memos in his Inbox from upstairs help with that.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 He had Rauch up in the 6th yesterday, so there's that.The major problem with most managers who break up the role system is that they tend to do so only to say; "OK, from now on, YOU are the 8th inning guy instead of the guy I just took out of there" ... and so nothing really changes.
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 That Terry has come to realize he has no reliable relievers so he might as well mix and match is fine. But I'll believe things are changing when a manager finally hands the ball to his best reliever in a late-inning high leverage situation that isn't defined by whether its a save situation or not.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:Wright and Dickey 2012That..with Dickey starting..Wright not starting.
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