Diagnosis Creep

[Edgy MD]

One of those things frequently lamented is the ongoing and seemingly everlasting leaking of new information about injury assessments and reasonable expectations and you start to wonder what's wrong with the Mets when a guy goes on the DL and soreness turns into strains, strains into sprains, bruises into fractures, rest into rehab, rehab into surgery, and you just wonder what the hell could be going wrong that their diagnoses and plans need to be continually (and negatively) reassessed.

It's certainly with no degree of satisfaction that I read this recount of the Yankees' year with Pedro Dos, but maybe with an appreciation of the perspective it lends. Pedro, man, what a year.

[Ceetar]

We wonder/criticize the Mets more because it's our team and we pay more attention, but the same stuff happens everywhere.

If that were the Mets, people would be criticizing them for not making Feliciano have the surgery immediately. (Yankees fans might be doing this, but I'm not reading those blogs..)

Feel bad for Pedro, but he's getting paid well and didn't have to move, AND I don't actually have to root against him because he'll be a "Paper-Yankee" most likely. Speaking of which, what's the highest amount a guy's been paid for a team he never pitched for? $8 has to be up there right?

[Edgy MD]

The Marlins paid something like $30 million to Mike Hampton, right?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Too bad for the MFYs (sniff)

Meantime, Some Kids on the Internet rate honey dippin chickin eatin compensation pick Michael Fullmer as the 19th best Met prospect. 19th!!!! Abuse this, Cashman!! Hahahahahahah

http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/10/mmo-top-20-mets-prospects-19-michael-fulmer-rhp.html

[Edgy MD]

At 6�3? and 200 lbs. Fulmer has good size, and has gained anywhere from 5-7 mph on his fastball in the last calendar year, while growing an inch in height and putting on about 20 lbs. His heater is now in the mid 90?s with his fastball topping out at 97. He has a very promising secondary pitch he is now throwing at 83-85 mph, that is thrown with a tight rotation and comes in with a sharp downward break. The most impressive thing about his breaking pitch, is he can throw it for strikes, which makes it a potentially devastating out-pitch. His change-up, like most high school pitchers, is a work-in-progress at this time, and will be something he must refine to find success as a starter beyond the lowest levels of the minors. He has shown good stamina on the mound, and should develop into a pitcher who can throw deep into games.

Why are they trying so hard to avoid the word "curve"?

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, any tears for Cashman end just about the time he decided to blame the Mets for doing what everybody knew had been done at the time the Yankees decided to outbid the field and sign away our pitcher. Caveat Yanquior!

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: The Marlins paid something like $30 million to Mike Hampton, right?

no, never a Marlin.



on Fulmer, 83-85 is too fast for a curveball right? more a slider type pitch?

i dunno, i'm bad with pitches.

[Edgy MD]

Curves are typically in the high seventies.

Yes, I know hampton never played for the Malins. I thought that was one of your criteria.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Curves are typically in the high seventies. Yes, I know hampton never played for the Malins. I thought that was one of your criteria.

I mean, they didn't pay him that I can find. it's lot listed in his contract sections of his b-r page.

[Edgy MD]

Here you go: http://www.walb.com/story/1016256/braves-get-hampton-from-marlins?redirected=true

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Here you go: http://www.walb.com/story/1016256/braves-get-hampton-from-marlins?redirected=true

Ahh, I saw that he was briefly in Florida, didn't realize the Marlins were paying him 30million as part of the deal. craziness.

From Colorado, they got a young center fielder, Juan Pierre, who can hit and can run. From Atlanta, they got a young pitcher, Tim Spooneybarger, who has an above-average fastball and slider, a loose arm and a live body. He has a chance someday to be a top closer. They also got a player to be named later. And they unloaded Wilson and Johnson, who they thought could no longer help, cutting $52 million in salary liability.

they actually come out ahead, moneywise. (and I guess Pierre helped them with that 2003 thing..)




Also, a lovely reminder at the end of that article.

Braves general manager John Schuerholz said during a Monday press conference discussing the Hampton trade that the deal will not have an impact on Atlanta's efforts to re-sign free agent pitchers Tom Glavine and Greg Maddux

[Edgy MD]

Tim Spooneybarger is a guy I never think about, except when I walk past a Booeymonger.

[Fman99]

Edgy DC wrote: Tim Spooneybarger is a guy I never think about, except when I walk past a Booeymonger.

I conflate Spooneybarger with spoonfuls of boogers. Which is just gross.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Well, it helps the medicine go down.